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i prefer the drunk.
you never can know what a zealot will do next.. ash
Ashitaka, I'm with you.
The drunk will eventually pass out.
The zealot is on speed.
I think you can have fun with a drunk; a zealot is cause for snoozing.
Besides, zealots look a lot like trolls, and you know how I love pictures of those .
Drunks? I have family photos, I'm OK there.
can the governing body of hypocrites ever admit that they are wrong?
the watchtower august 1st 1978 issue, page 3:.
can you admit when you are wrong?.
Well, chances of the Borg admitting they 'goofed' or 'erred'...well, I'm sure I'll turn 200 years old when that happens. NOT!
But just in case you want to have some good ol' fun and do some research and cross referencing, check out Bean's 'Quotes' site.
No need to wait for any admission of error. Just go there and figure it out for yourself .
in your opinion,what does it take to gain acceptance in the organization and congregation?
That insatiable need on our parts when part of the Borg - approval seeking. It's a vicious cycle of gaining perpetual acceptance there.
Do more, then more, and when you haven't done enough: More of this, More of that! You can never do enough for jehovah and the organization. Hurry, stop pondering or enjoying your life, you must do more, more, more....for the organization!!!!
You will get a few approving glances or positive comments, but remember, those remarks have a 1 minute expiry.
More of everything and more for the Borg.
You know you can never do enough!
well it has been one year since i first started promoting the quotes web site, about 15 months ago when quotes and i were reunited i recall looking at the counter at the bottom of the page and he had about 17,000 visitors.
as i look today there is over 39,000 happy visitors, and what a pleasure it has been spreading the good word!
when i stopped going to meetings at 16 i had read nothing but knew things didn't add up at the watchtower!
Beans: congratulations on 1 year of on-line service to the internet communities.
The information posted on your site (I've been there) is invaluable.
For those seeking information re: WTBTS 'good ol days', your site is the place to go. Not simply for that, but for so much more.
I respect the value of information you have provided. For many digging deeper into things, you've certainly made it accessable to all.
Thanks Beans!
ok it is 4 am and i have not gone to bed so i wont be checking this thread till way later.
still i have a question.........maybe someone can answer it for me.. .
do so many christians believe that anyone who does not believe as they do will burn in hell?.
I used to say: give man god's word to interpret, and watch the calamity ensue.
I used to say: give god man's word to interpret, and watch him/her laugh.
GOING TO HELL IN A HANDBASKET, I SAY!
we are told we can quit (dissassociate) or get kicked out ( dissfellowshipped), but are these the only options we have?
while you cannot stop people from acting a certain way around you there may be a way to take to power away from the society and give it back to the people who love you and know it their hearts that shunning in unloving.
check out the baptism nullification letter in the friends forum posted by blackguard.
This is very interesting. I had never heard of 'baptism nullification'.
I originally contacted the elders by letter. I did that approach. Didn't matter in the long run, as far as I know, I am either DF/DA'd. Essentially, the same thing.
Interesting about 'LEAVING'. Notice the only way to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses as a rule is on their terms?
Thanks Maverick. Despite my many years away, these issues etc., still resonate with me. I appreciate this forum, all things are discussed, and some wonderful solutions offered.
...severely emotionally injured witness suffering from bi-polar illness as well as a severe dissociative disorder (multiple personalities) whose husband left her and has no friends in the congregation, who starts smoking?.
disfellowship her.. just thought you'd like to know.. .
beryl
Matters pertaining to mental health, more often than not, go askew, moreso with the JWs.
I have even heard during my dub-years, that mental illness was 'possession by Satan the devil' - yeah right!?
Sad to read your accounts, but I can tell you this, you're certainly not the first person to be subjected to such ignorances.
Getting away from there, I'll bet you've come a ways. I hope that you are seeking the help you require, and there's nothing to be ashamed about if you are living with any mental health issue. Working with it, and taking control of it, will prove you to be a strong and resourceful person. No elders required!
Best to you, always.
hahah now i have your attention :d have any of you others notice a huge trend in brothers and sisters including us xer's that get right into star trek ?.
because it seemed really big in our congregations ... i also noticed that after i left and came out about my gayness :d that heaps of other witnesses mainly guys were in the same position as me what with the being gay :) also a large fondness for the pet shop boys although that could go with the gay issue ... anyways let me know what you guys noticed/thought.
love josh
You probably got labelled for lookin' like Spock . Which you know: is not logical
Anyways Josh, you're out of there now. Any plans? I'm not sure of your age etc., but if you are in post-secondary education (college-university), keep on with it.
If you aren't, are you considering it?
More importantly, enjoy your freedom, be kind to yourself and enjoy this life .
Best wishes.
i always imagined it as being the sky turning different shades of purple and finally seeing colors i've never seen before.
loud lightening, thunder in all directions... i would hear god speak, then the sky would turn red, and i'd see angels coming down from the sky and devils go up and fight in the sky... kinda like in raiders of the lost arc.
it would last 40 years, then the earth would split and open all demons would be cast below, and then 2 weeks of rain will cleanse the earth and the paradise would grow from the ash and neutrient rich rain.. .
When I was a dub, sometimes I would imagine what it would be like "The End/Armageddon".
To me it was...yeah, sort of like "Raiders of the Lost Ark" but way more freakier.
I was afraid of thunderstorms for awhile, never knowing if the 'next one' was going to be Armageddon.
Some of the publications painted some pretty scary images of what was to come.
Thunderstorms nowadays, don't bother me. ONLY if there's a tornado watch/warning...well naturally, I'd be afraid for a good reason. The thing is, I wouldn't view it as god's wrath or anything. That's simply: nature.
hahah now i have your attention :d have any of you others notice a huge trend in brothers and sisters including us xer's that get right into star trek ?.
because it seemed really big in our congregations ... i also noticed that after i left and came out about my gayness :d that heaps of other witnesses mainly guys were in the same position as me what with the being gay :) also a large fondness for the pet shop boys although that could go with the gay issue ... anyways let me know what you guys noticed/thought.
love josh
"BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!"
I cannot say I was ever a trekkie fan or was one while I was a Dub.
The Pet Shop Boys, I liked them at first, but no longer. I got more into punk rock and so on in the early to mid 80s.
Probably one of the most difficult things for a gay JW is that in itself. Suppressing your sexuality and trying to be 'straight' or 'heterosexual' while a dub is torture, I know...I've been there.
Monkey (Josh) you're not alone on here. Overall, people here are supportive, and if for nothing else...YOU having been a JW is enough in common to hang out on the board with the rest of us.
