With great intrigue and earnest I read this post.
As expected, I thoroughly enjoyed this post, and almost needed reviving on a few segments.
You are always entertaining, and also very 'on-the-mark' when it comes to your analysis regarding JWs.
SYN, I don't know what the emergency number is in South Africa, but in Canada and the USA it's: 911 - in the U.K., it's 999. You dial whatever is appropriate, send them my way.
ALWAYS enjoy your input/posts.
Best Wishes, RAY (Rayzorblade)
aztec...where are you?
i remember something about the possibility that she may be moving.
i know the format on this forum has changed, but i'm sure she could access it.
Oh Aztec, if you ain't skating triple or quadruple axels on Lake St. Clair tonight, I don't know what to believe.
Your Red Wings, clobbered my beloved Maple Leafs: 7 to 2
Hope you're keeping well. I haven't had any hockey teasing as of late.
Take care, wishing you and your family well.
Looks like the cup will remain in Detroit, (Stanley) for a bit longer.
i just heard that fred rogers (aka mr. rogers) died today of complications related to stomach cancer.. my kids loved watching his show as much as they enjoyed watching mr. dressup.
when ernie coombs (mr. dressup) passed away a week after 9/11, my kids were devastated, it was like one of their best friends had died.
i was devastated too - for my kids and for the part of me that also enjoyed mr. dressup as a child.. give your kids a big hug today when you tell them the news about mr. rogers.
Hi Scully, I didn't know of this, but I am saddened to hear of the death of Mr. Rogers.
He (Mr. Rogers) and Mr. Dressup (in Canada, Ernie Coombs) were well acquainted. Mr. Dressup was originally from the U.S.A. as well as our beloved "Friendly Giant". Mr. Dressup/Ernie Coombs was in Pennsylvania (if I'm correct) working on children's programming or something (may have been with PBS, not sure), and an opportunity came for Ernie to go to Canada, which he did, and we were in-love with him ever since.
Mr. Dressup was what I grew up with here in Canada as a kid. He was one special guy. Mr. Rogers was too. I watched him, once we got cable TV and I could see the similarities.
When Mr. Dressup died just a couple of days after 9/11, I was honestly heartbroken.
Reading about Mr. Rogers is very sad as well, because the connection is there, and he was such a kind and gentle human being.
I'm going to miss Mr. Rogers.
this is my little note to say i won't be on the forum very much in the next while because i am moving.
big move .
from saskatoon, saskatchewan to vancouver, bc .
ESTEE!
Excellent! Congratulations! I can tell you are so happy about this. Great opportunity, and great place. You'll totally love it.
I haven't been to Vangroovy in almost 10 years. It has changed considerably since I was there, but I know for a fact: it's warmer than Saskatoon in January/February, and warmer than Toronto.
I know a very cool and wonderful XJW there. He and I have known each other for more than 10 years. He is like a big brother to me, and a constant pillar of support and encouragement. I will have to tell him about you. But no worries, you have some settling to do, moving and heaven knows what else. I would not devulge your e-mail etc., to anyone without your permission.
ESTEE, my hat goes off to you. If and when it's possible, go over to the North Vancouver when you have some time, and head towards Deep Cove. There'll be a turn off for Mount Seymour. I love it up there. You're over a mile up, and you can see the greater Vancouver area, the Georgia Strait, northwestern Washington State, the Olympic Mountains and Mount Baker as well as way off, Mount Ranier. It's free to go up there, and there's nothing blocking your view. It's incredible!
Hope to see you when I get out there. We must do coffee...and go the Flying Wedge Pizza.
Best of luck, best wishes, and continued success! You deserve it!
i recently got a card from my friend uncle bruce.
he's found a new love in his life, and i would like to share him and her with all of you who know and love him as i do.
uncle bruce is nearly as crazy as i am and his new love is kinda cute and all, but even i'm not so fearless that i would dare fornicate on a motorcycle going down the highway.. i'm not joking about the card, btw.
Hmm...this is the way to go!
I dare say, sheep seem to be more easily placated than goats; having looked after both critters in my early youth.
That was funny Farkel & UncleBruce. Now if you could just snag a platypus on there, then you'd be all set.
i am posting this so that the lurkers and the ones saying "oh they don't do that" can see.
i was treated this way all through my time with the witnesses this is what they do and have done.
this poem was written in 1983 and it hasn't changed at all in the organization.
Sheila M, that was good. Very well put.
1983 was a benchmark year for me as a JW. That is the year, everything started to fall apart. That is the year I decided to > leave.
Interesting that we both had 1983 as some significant date.
Thanks for sharing that poem, I quite liked it.
i don't know if this subject has been touched on before - i didn't know what section to put it under.. i have to go to the meeting this sunday - basically emotional blackmail by my husband (long story).
i have suffered from panic attacks in the past.
when i don't go to the meetings, and my family do, i get very panicky and breathless.
Geez Rebel, I am sorry to read about this, and of course, I know how disabilitating this can be.
I'm going post part of the end of your post, then go with that:
"..I know it's really stupid - it is just a building with lots of people, but it really makes me ill."
Rebel, it seems like you are under a great deal of pressure for starters to attend meetings: damned if you do/damned if you don't. You mentioned something about your husband, perhaps, if you care to, you can elaborate on that just in case this is a key factor to the anxiety.
The thing is NOT the physical building with people inside, but WHAT the building and the people inside REPRESENT . It's what it represents that causes you this anxiety.
Because of what it represents, that's why there are so many of us HERE and no longer JWs. We no longer feel the grief, anxiety, depression and misery of struggling with our conscience now that we are free of the WTBTS.
Of course Rebel, I don't know you personally, but the elders will no doubt encourage you to ATTEND MORE MEETINGS so that you will get over this and to PRAY about it and god knows what else. I can tell you right now, the anxiety won't go away.
I hope there is some means for you to discuss this with someone, someone who is not a Jehovah's Witness. Or if you have a contact that's an ExJW, that may help. If professional assistance is within your reach, I would strongly urge anyone to utilize it. It helps tremendously, and the opinion will be objective.
I hope you will be able to break free.
today's news in oz includes this item about a state mp breast-feeding her baby in the parliament.. do you think there's a chance that this could occur at your local kh?
20:56 aest wed 26 feb 2003. marshall causes breastfeeding row.
victoria's newest celebrity mp, former olympic aerial skier kirstie marshall, was ordered to leave the floor of state parliament after breastfeeding her new baby in the chamber.. the move sparked outrage among breastfeeding advocates, who branded the decision discriminatory and archaic.. ms marshall caused a stir in the legislative assembly when she began breastfeeding 11-day-old charlotte just before question time.. she was asked to leave by the serjeant-at-arms, due to rules banning non-mps from the floor.. ms marshall said she had not realised she was not allowed to feed charlotte in the chamber, and was not trying to make a statement.. "charlotte was due for a feed so i whacked her on the breast and walked in ... i've since found out that there is a law or a rule that actually stated that you can't have a stranger in the house," ms marshall told reporters.. "and as she hasn't been elected to parliament ... she's not an individually-elected member.".
Ozziepost, I do recall...this is some time ago, an area that had been set-up at the some of the assemblies here in Canada, for women to breast-feed their babies.
Honestly, I've seen breastfeeding done in public here; my cousin, she nurses her baby in front of me, and to me it seems perfectly natural. I have seen it done by other women, here there and everywhere.
As for the MP (Kirstie Marshall) from the state of Victoria down yonder, I have to admit, whether she intended to or not, she may have started something.
Back about 14 years ago, ya wanna see a wild and wacky sight? When the then federal Tory (Progressive Conservative) government introduced the GST (Goods and Services Tax), it raised quite an uproar.
When the final vote was in, and of course, because the Tories had a majority, the bill passed to introduce the GST, was a shoe-in, despite the protest of many Canadians. Out of almost every opposing MP's seat came roll after roll of toilet paper flying across the House of Commons. It was hilarious!! Accompanied by much yelling and hollering and jeering. Mind you, the tax sucked. I remember there must have been hundreds of rolls flying through the air. OH well...tells you plenty about what they wanted to do about the GST here in Canada.
I can't recall any sister/woman at the hall ever doing this, but I just recall there was a place for them to nurse their baby.
Any lurkers on here breastfeeding want to be a bit more blatant at the Kingdom Hall?
i was talking to a witness who is still in and she said they gave a talk at the hall, about submissive wives and were told that if the husband wants to go somewhere for the holiday and the wife want to go somewhere else she will need to be respectful and do what the husband wants.
and she can go on her prefered choice of holiday the following year...... .
the husband is to make all major decisions such as where they will .
My goodness. Isn't that a hoot!
What I love about such posts, are the replies quickly typed in behind it.
Fe2O3girl: the wife "rendering her due". That has to be a JW husbands favorite quote. That indecipherable comment or word at the very end nailed the spike in the wall, and I almost spilt my coffee because it caused me to burst out laughing(Bleeeuuughhgh) LMAO
Greven: These talks are obviously written by elderly men that think the only purpose God created females was to serve them! Welcome back to the middle ages! Yugh! LOL, that was so funny, but oh so true!
Francois: You crack me up something fierce. You certainly know how to stir the pot.
Nelly....I hope you get to pick the vacations around the household. Aren't you glad you're not part of the audience taking it in with a bucket of salt?
hey everyone,.
i have a question: i am happily faded but i recently got the desire to talk to an elder of my old congregation.
the problem is that he doesn't know i am faded (i kinda disappeared from jw archives while moving to college), and that i do not want to get into trouble by this.
Hey Eppie, I would say that the advice you have asked for has been duly given.
Sandy, my oh my...what to say.
I can relate to some of how you feel, as I was once hyper-sensitive to any opinion other than what I knew as a Jehovah's Witness, even after I had recently exited.
When there is an honest opinion given that is not the general wordspeak of a practicing Jehovah's Witness, when you are newly out of the organization, it will still come across as 'Witness Bashing' or 'Witness Hating', to you.
Really it isn't...but that takes a great deal of time to really believe that....and trust me....I know, I know, I've been there. And even me writing this...will not convince you otherwise.
Mouthy's comments are definitely ones to consider, as she is probably the most lovable grandmother on this forum.
It is going to take some time Sandy. That's about all I can truly say. I wish you no ill will, whatsoever.
Eppie, I hope that the question you posed to the forum has been useful. No one has fudged any answers or made-up anything. We wish you well. I hope you will heed the advice kindly given, and for free.
