Posts by Iwasyoungonce

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Please! I need some input.

by 68storm in

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friends

i would appreciate some input from the boards most revered jw scholars.

i am not certain why i feel compelled to have some questions answered by the kremlin (read wts.

) maybe that i need final closure in order that i may move on, or i am seeking a little revenge.. first off, a little background on my situation.

Cut bait and row for shore. This should be dropped like the bad habit that it is. You said it best when you (or I read into your) read in that the Jehovah Witnesses do not give a "shit" about you. Nor do they care about someone like me or the happiness of your or my kids. It was put best to me about the df'ed in my life...("The goal here is to "hurt" B. To cause her pain. If she wants the pain to stop then she will come back. If she will not come back then the pain will continue. We would not have to hurt her if she would just come back. You see jay, you are to stupid to see that.")

Storm I knew that in my heart. But to hear that from her father's mouth. These people And I Do Mean The JEhovah WItNesses they are evil evil evil. They plan and intend to cause pain to those that leave. They intend to hurt people all around them and they are very good at it. They are poision to love. They create hate and apathy were if they were dead or gone it would not be there. Again Jehovah Witnesses are evil, all of them. Is that a prejudice attitude. YEP! It is. But it is also true. They are a clusters off of a bad tree. They poision those that taste of it. "If you taste one grape of a cluster and it is no matter how many more you taste not one will ever taste like beef steak"-(jerry spense)

To clear up my attitude I mean as they are. When they are free of the mind control they are not the same person. But, as a JW they are dangerous!

Storm if you fight them what are you fighting for? Revenge? Hate? Apathy? That is like fighting a big white whale.

They have taken enough of my time. As "Dragon" said in a post "Life is to short; to hate it takes up to much energy."

But, if you really want to fight them here is what I do. Love. Help people with hope for, and the actions of, and the intent of, wishing the best of, and for them. That is it. And I don't mean to go out of your way to show that you are kind to JW's screw them. I mean to everyone. Being kind to a JW more than the norm to show them that you are not the satan worshipper that they claim is a waste of time. THey Don't Care! It is like feeding a stray dog. It will keep comming as long as you do and before to long it is shitting in your yard.

Wow that is good to get off my chest.

Jay

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Venting @*$& (II)

by Tashawaa in

jw
friends

just thought i'd share this email, i recieved.

in light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: this is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.. .

billy graham's daughter was interviewed on the early show and jane clayson asked her "how could god let something like this happen?

Iwasyoungonce

5 d's,

Last post.

To say: I think we agree on main topics. Your boxes are a little confusing as to who said what so I say again we seem to agree on main lines I.e. "Don't blame God."

But, I also don't blame "mankind." If blame is to be assigned it's falls on the one's who did it. I do not blame Government or anyone or anything accept those who did the act and those that taught and helped them to hate and kill.

And my last sentence of my last post was 100% general and not to you. Sorry I did not specify. I mean no barbs to you. I enjoyed the coversation.

Peace,

Jay

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Venting @*$& (II)

by Tashawaa in

jw
friends

just thought i'd share this email, i recieved.

in light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: this is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.. .

billy graham's daughter was interviewed on the early show and jane clayson asked her "how could god let something like this happen?

Iwasyoungonce

5 d's Thanks. I do have the inner peace that you speak of. And I hope you find the same. The only thing that we are talking about here is reward and punishment.

You feel that because of ungodly standards or the outright rejection of faith (in God) the horror of 9/11 was allowed. As if a "vail of protection was lifted." That to me is abandonment in time of need. The other side is "if" faith was done as according you; Either your standard or someone other than mine (as that is the only one whom I have authority over) then maybe this could have been avoided.

The sad truth is the only ones that could have positivly stopped this tragity were the ones that inflicted it. They believed that God commanded, demanded them to do this act. Which of course was not true. But, they believed in a man made "paradise" that will be created by a river of blood. And, that's the way they and the the others like them will be because, it is what they choose. Remember they brought this to us not the other way around. I have already had 100's of discussions about whom is the greater inflictor of terror. That's not my point. These men brought this to us. God had nothing to do with it. Nor did Satan. The men who trained and prepared and then took these planes and flew them into the buildings they did it. Other men financed and supplied the know how. All done by men. Nothing supernatural about it. I can't believe that some people can not just grow some balls and admit this is our own SNAFU. And grow up.

And in Luke 15 God ran to at the same time the son was comming back. He Ran. I do not believe that what ever I do I will be abandoned not by me and not by him. (Or that God will take 5) Say what you will you will not shake that from me. May you one day have that kind of peace and security "5 Shadows"

To the solders that protect me from those who would kill me given the chance I simply say a heart felt "Thank YOU!" For those who are offended by that or whom think that I am ungodly...Well to bad.

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Venting @*$& (II)

by Tashawaa in

jw
friends

just thought i'd share this email, i recieved.

in light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: this is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.. .

billy graham's daughter was interviewed on the early show and jane clayson asked her "how could god let something like this happen?

Iwasyoungonce

Fiveshadows,

I disagree with the Email because it says to me that God abandoned us. I say bull to that. I have not lost my faith in him nor him in me. Period. (On that)

In our school systems we need to continue to teach people how to think and not what to think. We have to be vigulant in this because there is always someone wanting to take that ability away. This was my point to the "Six Flags" thing. Relgiondum has for to long taught that "this" is what God is and this is what you must do. Worship the "Church." I reject that. And, I reject that by doing that I reject God or that anyone is abandoned for doing so.

Well, on second thought I guess some churchmen do don't they.

As far as the rest of what you said I'm not exactly clear what you mean so this is as far as I go.

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Venting @*$& (II)

by Tashawaa in

jw
friends

just thought i'd share this email, i recieved.

in light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: this is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.. .

billy graham's daughter was interviewed on the early show and jane clayson asked her "how could god let something like this happen?

Iwasyoungonce

Tashawaa,

Why did the young men who decided to fly a plane and murder so many people do what they did; Who's glory and did they believe they were showing dedication to?

Because they did the hate filled act in the name of God and they believed it just...Did it make it right?

Is it right to preach hate of one group or all other groups in the name of God? (I say no. ALL Such groups should be opposed.)

Where did they (the "high"jackers) go and what did they do just prior to doing the act of murder?

Are you (Graham) saying that America and American's is "anti-Deity?" I ask the same of the rest of the world. Some 80 Countires were attacked. What did they do or not do to have God trun on them? (I have to disagree this was not about God; It was about hate in the name of God.)

Even when speaking of an Atheist some of them are the finest examples of what it is to be "christian" that I have ever met.

I think that what the "Graham'inits" like some "other" groups who constantly point out all of the world's flaws while doing nothing about their own personal or groups flaws are so mad about is that people are every day deciding that it is what they as an individual do and not what a "socal movement" does that they are responsible for. We are deciding for ourselves what it (God) is to us. We are outgrowing the need to belong to a building with men inside telling us the way to "Six Flags" (paradise) all the while they have never been there and can not produce a map that goes anywhere. (Why should they be exlusively believed.)

I find what "Graham" says is barbaric.

If God allowed, or created it as punishment, (Which I do not accept) then God needs to be put to trial and go to jail or be put to death just like any other thug or murderer. (Anyone seen him lately?)

Tashawaa, I know that these were Graham's words and not yours so I am responding to the message not the messenger. OK :)

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JW's Should Start Their Own Country!

by nonjwalltheway in

jehovas' witnesses are an interesting group.

they enjoy the freedoms and liberties that they receive by living in the united states, but at the same time they refuse to partake in voting, national celebrations and have basically created their own nation within a nation.

i find it hypocritical for them to act in this manner and believe that they should gather from around the world and all go and live together on some island.

Iwasyoungonce

Bella,

You would do well to take your own advice.

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Need help for someone hurting by JW rules.

by BeelzeDub in

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friends

i know i have not properly introduced myself here yet.

i have been doing the fade from jw religion for about one year but may soon be d/a myself just before i speek out again the elders about what they are doing to someone close to me.

Iwasyoungonce

DJ,

I was responding to the orginal poster in regard to his friend. I do not believe that the people who are giving his friend spiritual guidence (elders) have her happiness in mind. It is my opinion that they do not represent either reality or true scripture.

You decided to step in and ask me what I meant by saying man. (As you say "eunuch." All the while you never said what is your take or your point. You make me feel like I am being judged. I am not trading bards with you. When there are hearts and happiness at stake I hate Biblical jargon and legalism. Not that you are the one doing it; I was but refering to the big picture. This "friend" has every right to be happy and that is what I believe God wants. I believe that is the bases for scripture (how to be blessed.) (happy)

If you are going to make this personal and attack me maybe you could consider stating why you take issues with the Bible that I quoted. What is the "big" difference to you?

Jay

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What does this mean?

by MYOHNSEPH in

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friends

i've noticed that the friends forum on this board gets about twenty-five times the number of posts as forums such as bible research and beliefs, doctrines & practices.

do you think that says something about most of the posters here?

if so, what?

Iwasyoungonce

I think that the key "is" that people post. And, post from the heart that beats inside of them. "Friends" is that not what we are here. I say "YES!"

It shows that this site is a heart issue and not an exclusivity issue like, only about wt propaganda I.e. "queen's jelly." (Bee vomit)......(Other's regurgitation)

Is the Wt propaganda true or untrue (prove it!).....There is more to life than that. In fact (for me) everything in life is more important than that. (Once you are out and free of it)....(In fact cut out the Wt part out and this idea still stands for me.)

A very wise man once told me that "The bible is 4th dementional ideals written by a 3rd demential mind." (Thanks Rich)

"Goat Herders" LMAO

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JW answer on UN issu

by happy man in

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i find this on an jw site, its about the ub issu.. 1991, one of the legal corporations of the wts registered with the united nations as an ngo for the sole purpose of getting access to the extensive library of the united nations.

this enabled a writer who received an identification card, to enter the library, to enter the library for research purposes and to obtain information that has been used in writing articles in our journals about the united nations.

there was nothing secret about it.

Iwasyoungonce

I don't really care if or if not the Jehovah Witnesses wish to be a member of the NGO. But I find it strange that they would turn to "satan's system" to get protection from "satan's system." I see that as a "little" flawed.

And at least some of the pursecution endured most likey could have been avoided; But instead of doing that the orgainzation of Jehovah Witnesses did the opposite by putting people in harms way. It is my personal opinion to produce "martars." (I call them sacrifices)

I find the do as I say and not as I do mentality as a fine example of what they are planting. And the fruit that they produce is very hard of heart.

This is but another example of getting caught and the defense is "WELL SO WHAT?!" To which my point is you are making people die for the glory of a building and an image of a god created in the image of evil men. (And that god is their image I.e. them.) You (jw) are then blaming the world for letting you die for your belifes. You (jw) are asking the world to protect you from you. (As searching for UN protection).

My comments on this issue.

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Understanding Matthew 24. What does it mean?

by apocalypse in

about matthew 24

have you read this chapter?

all those who have called themselves "christian" have at one time or another read it, and wondered.

Iwasyoungonce

It is brave of you apocalypse to post something that is so clearly heartfelt. (And well written.) I don't mind the length either. For what it is worth I love reading of and talking to people who will speak heart to heart. You do and it shows. No doubt with people like you expressing yourself; Keys will be handed out and locks opened.

Again Thank You.