Masturbation makes you a homosexual...that's a gas. I heard it makes you crazy. If that were the case every male member of the human race is a flaming lunatic!!
Flowerpower
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Crazy JW Superstitions...
by Confucious inhey!
ok, we all know of this uncanny word play about not saying, "you were lucky," and not saying "bless you" after someone sneezes.
but this is a bizarre one i heard.
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Who actually did the disfellowshipping?
by barbar in.
when i was disfellowshipped, i was really looking for a way out, although i did not want to be disfellowshipped, it was easier than making the break on my own.. i appreciate that many are distraught when they get df'd, but was the actual meeting controlled by the elders or you?.
how many were really in control of the meeting and knew that being disfellowshipped was actually a way of ensuring that you would get no more hassle from the elders?
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FlowerPower
There were 7 at my interrogation. Probably because I, being a regular pioneer for 10 years running finally came out as a lesbian along w/ my pioneer "partner"!! Threw them for a loop. The idea of that had them all adjusting themselves under the table!!! I was very scared and cried alot. I was very afraid to lose my family(mainly my two sons) It's been five years now and one son is fine, he lives with my partner(same one) and I, and out of the BORG too! One is still in and very BORGed out He's 24. I miss him very much and only talk to him occassionally. That is my one regret but I could not go on or ever go back(I'd sooner slice my throat!!) My hope is that one day he'll get out too and I will devote myself to making up the time that we have lost!! Anyone is welcome to email me if you like at [email protected] Speak Truth, Spread the Peace FlowerPower
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Beware!! They will get your kids!
by freedom96 inthis is really directed to those who have a believing mate still in the organization, or maybe an ex who still is involved, and have custody of your kids.
be careful!
the elders and those in the hall will pay extra attention to your kids.
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FlowerPower
Hey new world slacker, I know what you mean about the congregation not taking an interest if you don't have alot to offer them. I was married already when they "got" me but my husband never fell for it.So I was essentially a single sister. I was sort of ignored by the "brothers". The only people that paid any attention to me or my kids were the other sisters. Whenever there was any kind of social event I was left out except for the dreaded baby showers!!
Then I became a pioneer... now they took some interest in me. I was taking out the groups in the morning even asked to say the prayer for them if there was no "brother" present.(with a head covering on of course!!) That way the service overseer (a very proud arrogant man, who hated the door to door work, only went on return visits that we all gave to him) could sleep in or find other ways to slip out of the initial door to door stuff. He would meet up with the group at break and then we would do Rvs! It was amazing how he managed to skate on that. I was a pioneer for 9 years and never went door to door with him once!!
They still have my oldest son who they made a ministerial servant at 21! He rarely speaks to me. I managed to salvage my younger son(18). He lives with us and is still baffled by all the witness stuff that I still cry over. I fight for my son, I try to make with contact him through email and he talks to me occassionally but it's usually not very pleasant. He rags me out regularly for leaving saying that he will never forgive me. It's been five years and I am starting to believe him.
It really makes me sad how they put on the air to worldly people that they believe in building strong families. they fail to mention that you can't ever disagree or even think about leaving or your "strong" family will disown you!! Parents do it to their children, children to it to their parents. There is no such thing as unconditional love which should be the bedrock of what families are all about!!
It just makes me crazy!!!
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Beware!! They will get your kids!
by freedom96 inthis is really directed to those who have a believing mate still in the organization, or maybe an ex who still is involved, and have custody of your kids.
be careful!
the elders and those in the hall will pay extra attention to your kids.
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FlowerPower
Those "Badstards that split up families" You hit the nail on the head. They are not the "Strong family Bond" group that they proport to be are they? My step son is presently in a confrontation with his JW father. Dad's argument goes something like this."If you don't worship the same God I do, and think like I do, and wear the same clothes I do, and do the same social activies that I do, then I will disown you and the children that you bring into this world. My own son, my own flesh and blood, "I will discard if you don't continue for the rest of your life to do exactly as I do." Is that sick or what.!! The only good thing about this is that the dumb witness Dad has now involved his non JW mother who is a quite upset about the whole thing, like how her son is treating her grandson and his family( wife and baby daughter). Its a long story but in the end it's a very "bad witnees for Jehoavah" Some consolation anyway!!
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My conversation with my pioneer mother
by caligirl inas freedom96 noted on an earlier post, my mother is in town.
we have had a situation this week concerning his son, which he well elaborate on at a later date, and i don?t feel it is my place to relay the story first.
suffice to say for the moment that we are both hurting immensely from what has been said, and it has brought on some pretty strong emotions.
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FlowerPower
Hey Caligirl, It's Jan of Jan and Joanne south of Vermont! Jo told me that you had written her an email about a conversation with your mother about the insane practices of the JW's. They just drive me crazy and by the way that "light" is on a dimmer switch, never saw tenets and dogmas go back and forth so often!! It all depends on the circumstances how they twist things to fit their reasonings. Touch'e to you for confronting your Mom with the stuff that really fires your ass. If she is a good Mom she will feel the hurt that you are experiencing with your step son and take a step back and "look" at it! I have so been through it with my son who won't acknowledge my existence because he was hurt when I left the "truth" because I left him too! He was 19 years old and it's been 5 years! I have always made myself available to him. Iv'e always put my teeth out there for him to kick. Will he punish me forever for the changes I had to make? I know that he is pressured by the organization but he will never admit it. I wasn't invited to his wedding, why? because I hurt him by leaving 5 years ago or because I am disfellowshipped and I should not be invited to a social affair??!! They hide behind the BORG so they don't have to actually feel their feelings and work them out! As I said it just drives me crazy. Hope your step son comes around and shows the love and respect that he should by visiting you and his father!! Flower
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New England or Better Yet Western Mass.
by FlowerPower inhey out there in cyber world, are there any exjw's from my neck of the woods?
would love to chat with you about our different experiences with the borg.
maybe we know some of the same people, same elders.
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Hey Caligirl, I know the Muir's well! Boy is there scoop on them!! Almost everyone in the family has in some way shamed the organization(which isn't hard to do of course) Oh my my, of all the folks you know!! Isn't that intersting!! Thanks for your reply!! FP
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New England or Better Yet Western Mass.
by FlowerPower inhey out there in cyber world, are there any exjw's from my neck of the woods?
would love to chat with you about our different experiences with the borg.
maybe we know some of the same people, same elders.
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Thanks Firedragon, It is so good to be out and honest, true to ourselves. My oldest son still, after 4 years, is angry with me for leaving. I asked him what should I have done? Stayed and continued to live a lie about myself, pretend to be a dedicated JW? It was hard enough doing all that when I BELIEVED it was the truth! When I finally came "out" to myself there was nothing there that would ever hold me. I knew that I would not be tolerated, that I would be made to feel more shame, I had felt ashamed about myself way too long. It was time I accepted myself and stopped trying to do everything else except look at the "truth"! I have truly appreciated all those who have seen beyond the turmoil that my experience has caused and recognized that my life just had to change. Change is upsetting to most of us, but life changes us everyday, whether we want it to or not and sometimes we have to initiate the change in order to get on the course that best suits us. I feel for the people that have been hurt by our decisions, I only hope that when life shows them that they have been on a wrong course that they find the strength and the support needed to make the changes that are crucial to their happiness. To those that have heard these parts of my story and continue to judge me, I wish the same for you, that when life comes along and slaps you up side of the head that you are strong enough to take a look and make the necassary changes. My best wishes to all! FlowerPower
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Are You in a Position to Help JWs and Ex-JWs???
by Prisca inhow many of us here are in the position to help jws seeking answers to their doubts and questions, as well as ex-jws who may be wondering if they've made the right decision?do you feel you have the resources to answer their questions on jw doctrines?how about providing emotional and/or spiritual help?and if you are in the position to do so, would you?.
i often wonder just how many people are out there, jws and ex-jws alike, who need someone to talk to about their jw experiences, to ask questions and find assurance.
how many of them are unaware that there are people available to help them?
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FlowerPower
I'm happy to help anyway I can, feel free to email me and I would be willing to give my ph # as well, after some initial contact. FlowerPower
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FlowerPower
Sorry 'bout that Eyegirl, didn't mean to age you by 12 years!! 25... what a cute age!!! Can you 'splain that equation to me, I can't figure it to be 25 no matter which way I try it! FP
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New England or Better Yet Western Mass.
by FlowerPower inhey out there in cyber world, are there any exjw's from my neck of the woods?
would love to chat with you about our different experiences with the borg.
maybe we know some of the same people, same elders.
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FlowerPower
Hey Flower, Thanks for your reply, I wasn't FlowerPower until recently, I had tried to get on lots of times and could never post, so my son managed to log me on and gave me the handle! I actually am the Manager of Dispatch and Delivery for a Flower Shop here in Springield so I guess that's what made him pick it! I see on my map that you are just a little North/West of Boston. Some other exJW friends of ours went to Boston recently with my partner and I to have a "meetup" with some folks from the Boston area. Next time we decide to go there I'll look you up. Feel free to e-mail me with your e-address. [email protected] FP