question #1.it was onced taught by the wt.that the proof that life only exists on earth and not anywhere else in the universe is the fact that this is the place where satan raised the issue of universal sovereignty.and that if there was life elsewhere he would of raised it there.also,this is the only place in the universe that jesus died to settle that issue.my question is,if this is true, then ,is evolution and life elsewhere a non-issue.question #2. god created spirit creatures some went bad others did not.god created fleshly creatures some went bad others did not.my question is,why do good creatures in the spirit realm see god live wihout any growing old and dying.while good fleshly creatures grow old and die.is it fair that good spirit creatures are immune,and good fleshly creatures suffer horribly.the answer of inherited imperfection is not sufficient because its not the fault of the good fleshly creature.i realized that i prefaced both questions with a premise then asked the questions.if my first question is not true, and many believe it is not,just as many believe it is.then evolution and life elsewhere is possible.as to my second question i am asking is, are the two kinds of life that god has giving fair to fleshly creatures.
thank you for your thoughts .
blueblades.
Good questions. I suggest reading this with an open mind, I have had similar questions, and I found this to read, it made alot of sense to me.
http://www.ftech.net/~bric/chapter01.html
and
http://www.ftech.net/~bric/chapter02.html
I know you are skeptical but try reading with an open mind. What have you got to lose besides a few minutes of your time?
the expansion of the universe .
the expansion of the universe is the most imposing discovery of modern science.
today it is a firmly established concept and the only debate centres around the way this is taking place.
So Muslim, were you a Jehovah's Witness before you became a Muslim?
reading one of the other threads got me thinking.
what is the root of anti-catholic sentiment.
i was raised a catholic, still catholic, and have never heard a good reason why some people dislike catholicism.
The second-century saw much confusion, contradiction and conflict. The prevalent opposition religions were vying for predominance which included the Greek and Roman pagan forms of worship.
These religions had evolved numerous religious doctrines and ideas that were becoming mixed with the apostles' teachings. When major conflicting differences in doctrines occurred, gradually the weight of the pagan concepts won out. There were no power-assisted apostles left to resist it. This progressive mixing and polluting with pagan doctrines diluted out any strength of true Christian knowledge.
The doctrines central to the Greek and Roman religions were multiple God deities, particularly triad deities. Greek philosophers such as Plato had developed beliefs in multiple gods and man's relationship with them. These concepts derived from more ancient civilisations such as Egypt. From these hand-me down ideas the Greeks and thereby the Romans cultivated their ancient religious beliefs, including the immortality of the human soul, an underworld concept of purgatory tormenting with fire, and family deities of Gods; they incorporated all of these into their pagan religions.
Through the mixing of such potent pagan ideas the pure truth was dissolved out. One of the major foretold apostasy doctrines to appear was the one that would contradict Christ's position as being the only begotten son of God (1 John 4:3,5,6,9). By tracing the history of the apostasy and how it developed the denial doctrine of error on the origin of Jesus Christ, we shall see how the spirit induced truth of the apostles was indeed slowly rubbed out.
With the restraints removed, a melting pot of religious ideologies, and doctrines developed. Various conflicting thoughts and pagan concepts from the Roman, Greek, Hebrew and Christian religions were stirred into a simmering broth. As time passed the friction and confusion often brought the pot to the boil, resulting in many heated clashes. Under various leaders, groups of dissenters were gathered, following their own particular teachings. By the year AD 325 about 225 years after the last apostle had died, this whole divisive situation was causing great concern to the pagan Roman Emperor Constantine. He was getting so much trouble in his empire from the unrest and conflict caused between these pseudo-Christian and pagan groups, so to settle things down he set up a council in the city of Nicaea to sort the mess out and agree a unified state religion that all could live with and he could back.
The Lights of Truth Go Out:
in the name of god, most compassionate, most merciful.
he will glorify jesus (pbuh), and he will guide mankind into all truth.
in the above verses we read "if i go not away, the comforter will not come unto you; but if i depart, i will send him unto you.
In that case, I guess we should all become terrorists, thank Allah for that
i have been busy for the past few weeks and finally got around to reading the thread containing bill bowen's latest letter to the governing body.
apparently the gb just locked the gates and ignored them.
correct me if i'm wrong, i haven't dug through all the posts... .
>>Currently, you are one of three groups:
- (C)urrent JW (baptized)
- (X)-JW (was baptized, now DF'd, DA'd, Shunned, etc.)
- (A)ssociates of either. <<
I think I fit in a different category: R-F-B (Raised Forsaken Believer)
I was raised in a JW family but never got baptized. I was a publisher because it was pretty much required of me since I was 5 years old. I never really agreed with them and always felt shunned by other witness families being dubbed as "bad assosiation".
My dad was an elder, and I really think he always tried to be fair and was sincere. But the other elders hated him because he was not afraid to stand up to them and tell them when they were wrong and that they had man-made rules beyond the bible (e.g. in our congregation, the elders had outlawed dark shirts, if you wore anything darker than a pastel colored dress shirt to the hall, the elders would pull you aside and lecture you).
By the time I was 17 in 1996, the elders started attacking me. I wasn't even doing anything scripturally wrong, but because I had formed a band with some of the other guys in the congregation and we played rock music (which BTW had no questionable lyrics or anything, it just sounded "worldly" to the elders), the elders kept coming to see me and threatening me and telling me that my hair was too long and I needed to get a haircut, which was completely ridiculous to me. I felt like it was none of their business. They told me that I would be publicly disciplined for "loose conduct", which, when I asked them why, their only answer was "because you're influencing the other boys in the congregation with your worldly music". When they asked to meet with me I refused, I had had enough. My dad was also demoted from being an elder because of me, because the elders who hated him finally had a reason to get rid of him. After this I really begin to question their religion, because why was I supposed to believe it was the truth just because I had been born into it. It was like, if I had been born into a family of Flat Earth Society members, does that mean I would have to believe the earth was flat? But nobody would understand my questioning and completely shunned me. So I got sick of it and when I was 19 I moved halfway across the country just to get away. A year later when I decided to move back home I found out strange things that had happened while I was away. Everyone had turned on my dad, the man who in my eyes has always loved Jehovah and was more devoted than any witness I had ever met. They tried to disfellowship him, those same elders who kicked me out for no valid reason, calling like half of the people in the congregation as witnesses against him, for what? For telling the elders that they had gone beyond the scriptures and for having me as his son.
For like a year or two I had completely lost all belief that there was even a god because of the questioning and rethinking this caused me to do. But I am a believer in God now, I don't know if there is a right religion but I do know that I love YHWH and his son. I guess I am still a little confused about everything, I'm 23 now, but I am a believer.
just in case you weren't really sure, the watchtower and the governing body will never meet with bill bowen.
he is now disfellowshipped.
Who is Bill Bowen??
ok, im bored - really bored.
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his father is on the right!
(my hubby).
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