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Is this new donation arrangement for real?

by nugget in

just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

Is this new donation arrangement for real?

by nugget in

just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

Tech49

Edit: I was busy typing this before I saw Juan V's comments....seems my observations could be spot on.

Here is another thing that has not yet been explored, or brought up. Mentioned this earlier, but I have done Accounts for many years, for several different congregations.

Each individual congregation has an amount in "savings", or in their own bank account...IE Congregation Funds On Hand, at the end of the month. This amount varies with each congregation, from a few hundred $$, to several thousand or more. I dont recall it ever being written down, but I do remember the CO's recommending that the elders encourage the congregations to contribute to the "Local Congregation Fund", in order to build up reserves. The general rule of thumb was to try and keep around $10,000 on hand, so that every 10 or 12 years or so, a little facelift could be done to the KH (paint, carpet, minor repairs, upholstery if needed, usual wear-and-tear items) without going thru the hassle of the RBC. Even thought they were encouraged to send surplus funds as "Funds on Deposit" with WTBTS, they were to keep some liquid funds in the bank.

Then, if there were 2 or more congregations SHARING a KH, there is a Maintenance Committee... and they have their own bank account as well, for the same purpose.

So for a while, almost every congregation I knew of had at least $3000 on hand, many had much more, for just such purposes. Like you would do with your own house, right? When the carpet started to wear out, it got replaced. When painting needed done, it got done. Roof is shot? Bam, materials purchased and a weekend crew put it on, while the local brothers brought lunch stuff. Landscaping starting to get a little out of control? Fixed. No muss no fuss, nothing to get worked up about. The brothers on the Local Maintenance Committee got it done.

NOW, however, they will ALL be directed to send ALL funds to momma. No need to keep that pesky satanic cash just lying around! Not when we have granite countertops, gold faucets, and zebra-wood flooring to buy in Warwick!

And ps., please send your monthly donations in promptly, via the easy-to-use internet self-pay program, hidden in the bowels of JW.ORG Bank and Trust. And don't email us with your questions or concerns, because we dont have an email address.

Listen, Obey, and Be Blessed.

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Jah-Jireh retirement homes web site...GONE?

by Gill in

jw
friends

does any one know where the jah-jireh webs sites, the sites that deal with the jw retirement homes have gone?.

i've been interested in them for a while, (with my age and that) but they've disappeared from the web!.

does anyone know why they might have come of, been taken off, disappeared from the net.. the only reference i can find to them is a list of retirement homes with a religious bent.. thanks all!.

Tech49

STARTS at $2900/month. Pictures and descriptions from their brochure make it sound almost like a Bethel-lite for seniors.

Better have your kids pony up! It IS your spritual responsibility ya know. I'm sure its purely a non-profit, of course.

I am sure that Mr. Darbin T. Skeans, Real Estate Agent, and Founder and Chairman of Jah-Jireh Homes, doesnt profit a lick.

And $6.5 million for 30,000 sq ft? 2 Single story buildings? That's $216/sq ft. Seems a bit on the high end of pricing, for a retirement home.

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kingdom hall insurance....??

by punkofnice in

i seem to recall that there was an assistance fund set up for insurance on kingdom halls that were essentially set up as insurance.. where you were not to insure the khs by normal insurance companies.does anyone know about this and does any kh claim againt the fund i.e.

the watchtower?.

sounds like a scam!.

Tech49

Yes, I second the comments from Bob_NC, the KH's are essentially self-insured, through "Mother". I spent many years handling Accounting at the KH level, and there was NEVER a payment made to a third-party insurance company (like Allstate, Farmers, etc.) As Bob said, there is a set amount per publisher as a "recommended" donation, yearly. There is no special fund, it all goes the great and wondrous WWW (world wide work).

However, the times they use "insurance" is Very VERY rare. I can think of 1 KH that burned in the Portland, OR area about 12 years ago or so. Then, everything goes thru the RBC. Other than that type of thing, any "claims" are strongly discouraged. Publishers are encouraged to use their own insurance if they hurt themselves on KH property, etc. Yep, another income stream. Kinda like the old "Parking Ticket" scam at the Tacoma Dome from years gone by.

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Jah-Jireh retirement homes web site...GONE?

by Gill in

jw
friends

does any one know where the jah-jireh webs sites, the sites that deal with the jw retirement homes have gone?.

i've been interested in them for a while, (with my age and that) but they've disappeared from the web!.

does anyone know why they might have come of, been taken off, disappeared from the net.. the only reference i can find to them is a list of retirement homes with a religious bent.. thanks all!.

Tech49

Something came across my Google News feed this morning, they are building a new $6.5 million compound, Legacy Cottages, at 2051 Bevin Drive in the Salisbury Township (dont know where that is, I am sure someone here does though..)

Just took a look at that website.... ugh.

Poorly written copy on the Home Page, and the About Us page... grammatical errors, run-on sentences, spelling errors. My high school English teacher is turning over in her grave.

Amateur money grabbers. Oh, and at the bottom of the "Objectives" page....." this is NOT a business, its a Charity." Ummm Hmmm, sure.

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Public Talk Outlines

by Lady Lee in

i have been collecting the public talk outlines.

i have almost all of them but there are a few missing.

i have tiles for some but just numbers for others.

Tech49

If you have been assigned a Public Talk, then you should have been given the outline. If not, request it from your Secretary or Coordinator. Requesting it from on online forum seems a bit out of line, ya think?

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Is the U.N. preparing to attack Religion

by confusedandalone in

about 5 minutes ago i get an article emailed to me from my mother telling me that i need to find a way to get back to jehovah and his saving arm... she read an article in a reputable newspaper that all the friends are using to show that its not just jehovahs witnesses who see religion about to get attacked by the u.n.. it concludes with a link to the article and her desire for me to please read it in light of my recent situation.. .

here is the article http://www.examiner.com/article/is-the-un-preparing-to-attack-religion.

the writer bill underwood is a jehovah's witness.

Tech49

Just FYI, to whomever is reading and/or watching:

I have had the opportunity to interact personally with BROTHER UNDERWOOD, yes Mr Bill Underwood is in fact a JW ( and NOT a MS or Elder, in case you were wondering), so dont let anyone tell you otherwise, and don't be mislead by his vague style of pretentious writing. He is in NO WAY unbiased. He envisions himself as a New York Times writer/columnist, an all-knowing, all-seeing eye for the sake of the brothers, inferring that he has some hidden insight into worldly situations and unfolding of events. (ps... he is a janitor...anyone surprised?) In my personal opionion, he is a crackpot. He was in our congregation for a while, and did his very best to use his super-duper intellect and self-imposed titles as a great writer and thesbian to try and woo the ladies.... until he finally found some poor lass that bought it like a fat slow fish going after a WORM (capitalized purposely).

More than a few brothers, and sisters, told him to take a hike, get lost, move along. He's a joke, a schuckster... HE is on Facebook, I just looked him up again... at least 90% of his "friends" are JW's....if you met him in person you would be thoroughly disgusted at his arrogance (and use of big words to make himself seem soooo intelligent), you would GAG quickly and run away... and anyone that takes him seriously has nothing else better to do in life than be strung along with the words of the typical snake-oil seller. As someone else mentioned and figured out pretty quickly... he's a tool. (again, just my opinion, of course).

Sorry, I ran a little off the rails there. Rant over. Back to your regular programming...

Jack Harper, Tech49

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one eighth of jw's are regular pioneers?

by Truthexplorer in

that's what a brother said during his public talk.

i mentioned this to the missus afterwards and asked if i heard right?

seems quite a high number!.

Tech49

I have run across several congregations that allow people to "share" pioneering, like job sharing. 2 or more go in together, putting in collective service time as a small group to meet the hour "quota", thusly all are announced as "pioneers", even though each individual may be putting in only a few hours. I kid you not.

Its all for show, and for the title. The numbers are meaningless, and fabricated.

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Mud slide in WA state - sister at Assembly

by leaving_quietly in

look for it in the yearbook next year.

there was an assembly the day of the big mudslide in washington last saturday.

a sister's life was saved because she obediently attended the assembly and thus was not home when a huge mudslide hit her neighborhood and buried and killed lots of people.

Tech49

I know, through mutual friends, the witness family they are referring to. Young mom and her baby killed, (they found the baby, but not the mom) and the young lady's grandmother. Very tragic, indeed. Very sad, and a horrible thing to happen to this family, and the many others in the small communjty as well.

The next thing you will hear referenced, alluded to, or inferred to, by extension, is this: the slide took place on a Saturday morning at around 10:30am. If they had all followed the FDS instructions and had truly loved Jehovah, they would have been out in field service, after all, it was the first day of the tract campaign for the memorial! You watch, there will be, as has been mentioned, an assembly experience, or yearbook experience, of the saving power of Jah.

Their lives would have been spared!

Listen, obey, and be blessed!

Tech49

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I don't believe the JWs will ever change and say the 144,000 is "symbolic"

by booker-t in

it will never happen.

because that will definitely be the "final nail" in their coffin.

jws will not stand for it any longer.

Tech49

My thoughts on the matter:

The 144,000 will change to a "figurative" number. You watch, its coming. They will have no choice, as has been shown, after the numbers of partakers continues to go up. Their lame excuses of "mental instability" and "confusion" among the ranks holds only so much water. And yes, there will be some who will have had enough, I suspect many "old-timers", and "awake", those just on the edge, subconsciously waiting for the final straw to break the camels back, to tip them over the edge..., and they will stop playing the silly games. But the majority are already being "groomed" to drink from the Momma's teat, and swallow whatever vile swill emanates.

I submit that the "change" of new light will not cripple this organization, it will only bolster the resolve of those so blinded by the obvious that it will be only a bump in the road, shaking off the "mentally disturbed" and those not firmly attached to previously mentioned teat.

Jack Harper, Tech49