HeavesGate isn't even a good troll. Sad. Very sad.
Posts by DJS
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82Is the Governing Body trolling us?
by kneehighmiah ini'm starting to believe the bethel higher ups are trolling us.
the outright contradictions and stuff like overlapping generation is too ridiculous.
calling out the harold camping when we did the same thing.
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Russian Parliament Approves Military Action in the Crimea
by ABibleStudent inwhy did russian president vladimir putin ask the russian parliament to approve using military forces to keep the peace in the crimea, instead of asking the un?
why did the russian parliment pass a law approving military force instead of asking for the un to send peace keeping forces to the crimea (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?.
is russia spiralling into a totalitarian dictatorship like germany in the 1930's and the soviet union from 1920's - 1990's with information control and coercive tactics?
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DJS
Sam,
Ernesto's rant misses a lot of points. Obama, or really any sitting U.S. president, has few good options in Syria. The opposition wants the U.S. to intervene or supply them with the tools to overthrow Assad, but the U.S. knows that those weapons/tools may very well end up with those who oppose us and used against us. And the support may fail. So arming/supporting them in full is not a good option.
Doing nothing is also not a good option for a lot of reasons (political capital, perception, etc.). So what do you do besides everything and nothing? You take a course that supports the best of the worst opposition and support them only at a level that will maintain a standoff. A standoff, although it will protract this thing and lead to suffering, is the best option for the U.S., like it or not. It allows for time to determine better who to support, that Assad may leave on his own (or his innder circle turns against him) and it provides a cold war type stalemate to the support the Russians are giving Assad. We will likely ratchet up our support in response to Vlad's support of the Syrian regime. And vice versa.
Ernesto doesn't understand global political military strategy. It doesn't matter if we think it hypocritical. It is what is is.
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Is the Governing Body trolling us?
by kneehighmiah ini'm starting to believe the bethel higher ups are trolling us.
the outright contradictions and stuff like overlapping generation is too ridiculous.
calling out the harold camping when we did the same thing.
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DJS
Heavens Gate, I hear what you are saying and it sounds like the adults in Charlie Brown. The whole world lies in the power of Donald Duck or the Easter Bunny. That makes as much sense to most of us on this site as SATAN!!, so take your JW crap, I mean mindset, elsewhere. Maybe back to the KH. Or be prepared to have your feelings, beliefs and thoughs nuked everytime you open your mouth, I mean type some lame crap into your computer.
The GB is delusional (they think they are the FDS and the only channel to god - they've even supplanted their own Jesus in scope). The GB loves control more than life, air, water or food. If they could get away with it they would control every facet of our lives. Linked closely to this is that the GB loves power and will not give it up until they are six feet under, which simply can't come quickly enough. The GB is paranoid; they see apostates or threat to their FDSness everywhere. And you are trying to tell us that People who are delusional, power mad, paranoid and controlling will NOT try to monitor this and other such sites? You know nothing of human nature if you think that.
Better yet, stick around. Your presence reminds me of killer whales playing with a seal. That they are about to eat.
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Russian Parliament Approves Military Action in the Crimea
by ABibleStudent inwhy did russian president vladimir putin ask the russian parliament to approve using military forces to keep the peace in the crimea, instead of asking the un?
why did the russian parliment pass a law approving military force instead of asking for the un to send peace keeping forces to the crimea (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?.
is russia spiralling into a totalitarian dictatorship like germany in the 1930's and the soviet union from 1920's - 1990's with information control and coercive tactics?
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DJS
ABS,
Nice post from the Ukranian. Thanks.
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Is the Governing Body trolling us?
by kneehighmiah ini'm starting to believe the bethel higher ups are trolling us.
the outright contradictions and stuff like overlapping generation is too ridiculous.
calling out the harold camping when we did the same thing.
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DJS
I would expect them to be monitoring this site and others like it. They are paranoid delusional to a great degree, and full of themselves on top of all that. To think they aren't monitoring is naive. Knowing how they attempt to control everything, I wonder what kinds of internal vetting, training, warning, etc. they employ for those few select ones who are authorized to monitor.
And I'm certain theymonitor those they allow to monitor to ensure that mean ole apostates and the dark side of the force aren't drawing them in. Sick, really. Hello GB. You sick MFers have caused more harm on this planet than you can ever imagine. The world would be a better place if you and your nasty sick hate filled little cult had never been born. The sooner it can go the way of the dinosaurs the better. Have a nice day.
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Say Goodbye To Israel
by metatron inhttp://news.yahoo.com/israels-ultra-orthodox-plan-huge-anti-draft-protest-073511447.html.
suppose 10% of your nation were hardcore fanatics who can act as one - and they refuse to serve in the army or get jobs!.
and they are the fastest growing group with a high birthrate....... some of the protest photos of them filling the streets are impressive.. .
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DJS
RE: Israel. As I mentioned, there are lots of powerful forces for and against this nation. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the ultra-orthodox protests, or the protests by the RIF living there. But neither would I dismiss its potential power. Remember, though, all it would take is one effective attack from an external nation/state and all bets are off. Jews will be Jews and stick together more than mud and blood, as they should. Their economic and military prowess has enabled them to focus on such things as democratic rights, fairness, treatment of the Palestinians, etc. The entire area is rife with problems; the nation of Israel - like it or not - has created somewhat of an economic/miliitary/resource miracle.
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Say Goodbye To Israel
by metatron inhttp://news.yahoo.com/israels-ultra-orthodox-plan-huge-anti-draft-protest-073511447.html.
suppose 10% of your nation were hardcore fanatics who can act as one - and they refuse to serve in the army or get jobs!.
and they are the fastest growing group with a high birthrate....... some of the protest photos of them filling the streets are impressive.. .
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DJS
Met,
A agree with your most recent assessment. The changes that will likely be brought about by both external and internal pressures should, I state should, bring about a better co-existence for all concerned and ratchet down the hyperbole and animosity a bit. Let it come. Political change because of such pressures is a Western phenomemon and typicallly only capable in democracies. The Jewish people are exercising that democracy, and it appears to be a good thing.
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Russian Parliament Approves Military Action in the Crimea
by ABibleStudent inwhy did russian president vladimir putin ask the russian parliament to approve using military forces to keep the peace in the crimea, instead of asking the un?
why did the russian parliment pass a law approving military force instead of asking for the un to send peace keeping forces to the crimea (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?.
is russia spiralling into a totalitarian dictatorship like germany in the 1930's and the soviet union from 1920's - 1990's with information control and coercive tactics?
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DJS
Most of the comments have been relevant. Thanks to FullTime for some actual research (well done) and kalk with the personal perspective. Putin is torn between two lovers. He runs Russia in part like a crime mafioso boss and partly joneses for the old U.S.S.R. and its world stage. He is trying to have it both ways and is almost assuredly full of himself after the success of the Olympics. He probably thinks he can fly right now and this action is kinda sorta predictable. But it may spell some doom for him.
What Putin needs right now more than anything is cash flow and economic growth. He has too many irons in the fire and too many things he wants to do for his legacy (e.g. Olympics) that need $$$$$. A short term cat fight wil push up the price of oil, (already has), which is critical for him to accomplish goals. Our Intel community has even determined the cost per barrel required by Vlad to do all he wishes.
A long term bloody war with Ukraine does not fit into his plans, but it provides him an ability (and a fairly safe one really) to expand his testosterone shirtless chest self and re-live the glory days, gaining the accolades of the old timers who yearn for same and the adulation of the younger generation who see him as Mr. T). FullTime put it well; Ukraine is one of those made up countries with split cultures and allegiances, so many in the Ukraine will welcome Putin and many with hate him. He is banking on not enough wanting to actually fight. He has no desire for a blood bath, and the Soviet fighters - who got their asses kicked by a rag tag bunch of Afghanis who then got their own asses kcked by the U.S. within a few weeks (I'm not counting trying to win the peace but the U.S. wiped the map with the Taliban in a few weeks prediictably) - have not shown the ability or the stomach for a long term bloodbath, especially against their own kind.
Putin is gambling big time. Blame it on the al al alcohol of euphoria. He is an astute politico and an opportunist. I do not believe he will allow this to become a protracted blood bath. It is the last thing he wants. He thinks he can get everything he wants without one and he may be right. Or he may be crazy.
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Say Goodbye To Israel
by metatron inhttp://news.yahoo.com/israels-ultra-orthodox-plan-huge-anti-draft-protest-073511447.html.
suppose 10% of your nation were hardcore fanatics who can act as one - and they refuse to serve in the army or get jobs!.
and they are the fastest growing group with a high birthrate....... some of the protest photos of them filling the streets are impressive.. .
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DJS
Met,
You went from the facts about the ultra orthodox movement to some very Watchtowerish conclusions. You state: "Many people don't understand that Israel is headed into big trouble and instability. There is an emerging sense that Zionism as a political movement is in trouble inside and out amidst growing isolation."
Really? Your sources? Taken literally then "many" do understand? Or think that is what is going to occur? You state that Israel heading for big trouble and instability is a given. What are your facts? They have been in political and social turmoil since the U.N. gave them a charter after WWII. They are kinda sorta used to it, Met. Your statement sounds like something the WT would say. It is simply not based on any facts, and you haven't provided any. I'm waiting on them, as I'm kinda sorta an expert on this topic.
"Zionism as a political movement is in trouble inside and out amidst growing isolation???" Really? Anything new here? From whom are they isolated? They have very powerful friends, the Arab spring has resulted in a lot of chaos and likely has increased the anomalous asymmetrical threats to Isreal but again, what else is new?
The Ultra Othrodox are also very resented, inside and out, by Jews all over the world because they want to bask in the security and economic prowess of Israel without doing what many believe is their part in supporting military efforts.
The anti-conscription and anti-land grab movement shouldn't be misconstrued as the end of Israel, and that is what you are doing. The anti-war demonstrations and the fleeing of many young American males to Canada wasn't the end of the U.S. or the U.S. military; but it was necessary to make a statement. The U.S. and the U.S. military both have gotten better as a result of those protests, and there is no reason to conclude Israel won't follow suit. Lots of Israelis living in Israel today want a better solution to the land issues and the Palestinian 'problem.' That is the real issue. Where it leads will be interesting; the conclusions you draw from it are not.
Whether or not Israel should have been given the territory is a separate issue. Look at all of the data - including the economy, technology, natural resources, milatry prowess, and then make another O.P. that isn't driven by the media you are reading that supports what you want to believe. And then post another one. This one suffers from a reactionary bent with conclusions that aren't supported by the weight of evidence.
I have regular contact with individuals who live in Israel and my third best friend is an atheist but a Jew who keeps kosher. He is like lots of other Jews; his culture and history mean so much to him/them and they are committed to their last breath - whether they live in Tel Aviv or Brooklyn - to make sure that culture and the physical land of Israel survives.
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What is / was the first thing(s) you looked forward to doing once you were out for good?
by SecretHeart11 inone of the things that keeps me going is thinking about the things my family and i will be able to do once we are all out, together, and free at last.
(and we will be out together, i'm staying positive!).
i soooo look forward to christmas.
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DJS
You mean besides having indiscriminate sex with a lot of girls? Just kidding. I would say the same thing as NVR, just having the emotional release of not being controlled or judged for everything or feeling as though I had to judge others. And after 20 years guess what? I like myself so much better and I am essentially the same ethical, decent person - just without all the judgmental, narrow minded krink kronk from the Borg.