a new set of income statistics answers those questions quite clearly: yes, college is worth it, and its not even close.
for all the struggles that many young college graduates face, a four-year degree has probably never been more valuable.. here is the article from the new york times:.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/upshot/is-college-worth-it-clearly-new-data-say.html?hp.
NY,
It's as I said, too many uneducated and under-educated don't know how to analyze data. An anecdote or personal experience, though not without merit, hasn't much to do in many cases with facts. The Dubs haven't been trained to think, so they aren't very good at it.
a new set of income statistics answers those questions quite clearly: yes, college is worth it, and its not even close.
for all the struggles that many young college graduates face, a four-year degree has probably never been more valuable.. here is the article from the new york times:.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/upshot/is-college-worth-it-clearly-new-data-say.html?hp.
NY,
It's as I said, too many uneducated and under-educated don't know how to analyze data. An anecdote or personal experience, though not without merit, hasn't much to do in many cases with facts. The Dubs haven't been trained to think, so they aren't very good at it.
you ever seen a guy that you thought, " i'm not gay but hey!
i like the cut of his jib"?.
well here's the: blokes i'd like to "yenz" thread.
Steve2,
Yes, it makes sense.
25 year old farzana iqbal was stoned to death by a crowd led by her own father and two of her brothers outside the high court in lahore yesterday.. her crime was to reject her cousin, who her family had decided she should marry, and fall in love with a man of her own choosing.. thousands of women are murdered every year in so-called "honour killings" but convictions are very rare.
pakistani law permits victim's families to forgive a murderer, but in these cases the killers are family members who are nominated to carry out the execution by the rest of the family.. this is what happens when you allow a mysogynistic religion to influence secular law.. reuters report...l.
Honor killings have occurred in the U.S. as well. They have typically been Pakistanis or other Islamic extremists. Marriages are also typically arranged in India; however, the Hindu belief system is in large part based on tolerance, so honor killlings are unlikely. Thier cousins to the East, however? That's a different matter. Islam is known for intolerance.
you ever seen a guy that you thought, " i'm not gay but hey!
i like the cut of his jib"?.
well here's the: blokes i'd like to "yenz" thread.
Found Sheep,
Researchers at Cornell University, examining data collected from a representative sampling of young Americans which included more than 20,000 individuals in 80 communities across the United States, found that nearly 15% were not strictly heterosexual, i.e. either lesbian or bisexual. The proportions in Europe might be higher. For example, in Norway, nearly a quarter of girls and young women identified as lesbian or bisexual: see L. Wichstrøm and K. Hegna, "Sexual orientation and suicide attempt: A longitudinal study of the general Norwegian adolescent population,"
The percentages of gay or bi-sexual males is much lower, in the 5% range. So FS, you are normal. And as you know, all girls are 2 drinks away from a girl-on-girl experience (see Dennis Finch "Just Shoot Me").
a new set of income statistics answers those questions quite clearly: yes, college is worth it, and its not even close.
for all the struggles that many young college graduates face, a four-year degree has probably never been more valuable.. here is the article from the new york times:.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/upshot/is-college-worth-it-clearly-new-data-say.html?hp.
Some of the responses illustrate why college is valuable. Often I read strongly held views on this site, from those who have considered exceptions rather than rules or read a study that was essentially about the tail ends of bell curves, where the 'data' (and I use the term loosely) is extrapolated/projected over an entire population based on the extreme behaviors at either end of a behavior curve for a population.
It's like someone who smokes telling you that their grandmother smoked for 50 years and lived to be 90. As if that's supposed to mean something. Smoking takes years off the AVERAGE life and even more years of quality life. Lots of successful individuals never went to college; that's not the point. On average those with college degrees make more money on an annual and lifetime basis, are unemployed less often, are promoted within organizations more often. In addition, studies suggest that those with college degrees are healthier, smoke less, abuse prescription and illegal drugs less, are less obese and less likely to get divorced.
Those are averages. Anecdotal or experiential comments about specific individuals have no bearing on the OP.
And WallsofJericho, I'm glad you agree with me.
a new set of income statistics answers those questions quite clearly: yes, college is worth it, and its not even close.
for all the struggles that many young college graduates face, a four-year degree has probably never been more valuable.. here is the article from the new york times:.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/upshot/is-college-worth-it-clearly-new-data-say.html?hp.
TO,
One thing you don't mention in your post is that recruiters, when presented two candidates otherwise 'equal' - one with a college degree and one without - will almost always choose the one with the degree. That factors into income statistics. If I were the college recruiter I would do the same thing. College also teaches analytical thinking (well they are supposed to), which also factors into income, as those moving up corporate ladders are more typically rational, analytical thinkers and planners. There are a lot of other reasons to get a college education that don't necessary factor into income, such as personal growth and being exposed to many different viewpoints, thoughts and ideas.
Additionally, unemployment rates in the US for college graduates are typically half those without a college degree, and that 'statistic' remains fairly constant during recessions and boom times. That also factors into income.
Dubs and ex-dubs: go to college. Professor DJS says so.
http://abcnews.go.com/us/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-calls-loneliness-darkest-hell/story?id=23855994&ts=true.
Yeah, my ex GF has NPD. And she wouldn't (physically) hurt a flea. She might drive it crazy, but she wouldn't physically hurt it. I've read that some sociologists fear that in our desire to level playing fields, end bullying and create a kinder, gentler growing up period for our young men and women that we have also in many ways emasculated young males and not given them all of the skills they need to survive and thrive. There are a lot of issues with Gen Y males which suggest this is true; mass shootings are simply one anomalous and horrific aspect of this.
a new set of income statistics answers those questions quite clearly: yes, college is worth it, and its not even close.
for all the struggles that many young college graduates face, a four-year degree has probably never been more valuable.. here is the article from the new york times:.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/upshot/is-college-worth-it-clearly-new-data-say.html?hp.
NY,
Ditto. In additon, the personal ROI is immeasurable. And with higher education you would be less likely to annoy me on this site, which is by far the most important thing. LOL.
so, i'm quite excited but also slightly freaked out as i'm able to go this summer instead of next like i had counted on (my daughter graduates next year and i was planning to go then).
this means i'm doing this last minute and i wanted to see if any of you have used https://www.go-today.com or gateone travel or go ahead travel?.
i'm planning on london, paris and rome for two weeks, likely july at this point.
Gypsy,
You will love France. Finding someone who speaks English in or around Parish or the larger cities shouldn't be a problem. Off the beaten path is another matter, as the French very Fracophile (they love their language and heritage). Carry a small English to French book with you that includes most of the common types of things you will need to ask for, etc. It was very helpful as we simply pointed in the book to what we wanted on many occasions. We found the French very helpful and friendly towards Americans (as expected), unlike some of the stories you hear.
As long as you are nice, respectful and considerate of your hosts they will likely return it. Driving in France wasn't difficult, but since rail, buses, etc. are so good likely not necessary. I rented a car and drove all over the S and E of France, without any problems. Signage is very good and driving is on the right as in the U.S. I don't think I ever saw an intersection; everything was roundabouts (traffic circles). That adds a little stress because you have to multi-task (driving into the roundabout while looking at the signs to determine where you are going as opposed to stopping at an intersection and giving it the tourist previews).
The food/wine in France is amazing. Visit some wineries if you can. Hotels, apts., etc. often don't have air conditioning, even when by American standards they should!!! So inquire about this if you are going during a warm period. Have a great trip!
