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  Science proves there is a God

  by seekchristonly in

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  fusion with god natural .

  in the cosmos universe or whatever.

  all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.

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  DJS

  Thought comes first? Really? On a purely sequential level that is correct. But billions of people have believed based on nothing more than an emotional response to a 'miracle' or some other unexplained phenomenon. Or to some motivational speech by a preacher or president. Very little real 'thought' went into their beliefs. Emotions and beliefs are more closely related than are thoughts and beliefs. Religious and political leaders have known this for thousands of years. Appealing to base emotions makes true believers. Only those who think, explore and gain an in-depth knowledge can escape traps or develop understanding. Religion is an opiate for the masses, as it enables believers to rely on feelings and emotions rather than tax their gray matter to actually figure things out. Or they control knowledge, as did the Catholic church for hundreds of years and the Borg continues to do.

  This in part explains why atheists - and secular/atheists societies - typically have more education and higher IQs than theists and religious socieities. Predicatably.
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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  Scotoma,

  You have made your point repeatedly, and few are agreeing with you. I think we all believe there should be limits and a bit of decorum, but unless you know exactly which words and phrases we can use, what is your point in beating on this? I think the level of ridicule and mocking is just about right. Some may want more, some less.

  As I mentioned, a number of us referred to the WT as the Borg, jokingly, when I was in the Borg. I continue to use the term, like a lot of others, because it fits. And it's funny. Is that mock and ridicule? Or simply humor? But by all means, keep on beating this thread to death until you get your way - or one or two others agree with you. Will that make you feel better?
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  How important do you believe education and knowledge is?

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how educated are you?

  and how great is your vocabularly ect ....?.

  do you think ir right to judge people by how intelligent/ educated they are and how much vocabulary they use???.

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  Oh Gawd, Caedes,

  Nice posts. Thanks.
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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  Scotoma

  I think you and one or two others have made your point. Most have disagreed with you. Since this is a conscience/censorhip/freedom of expression issue, move on. You are free to do as you wish.
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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  Apog,

  Then that is what you should do.
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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  Apog,

  Then that is what you should do.
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  Internet Dating - I feel like I am being love bombed again

  by KateWild in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i am on three or four sites and lots of guys are showing an interest and trying to be genuine.

  it reminds me of being love bombed by the jws.

  i am having so much fun and loving all the attention, i almost got carried away with it all, until i got a pm on jwn.. i have just been absorbing it all and it dawned on me i am still vulnerable, and possibly not ready to date.

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  DJS

  Kate,

  "and intelligent men introduce control in stages with out it even being noticed." Really? All intelligent men? Stupid men are never controlling? Or do stupid men simply introduce control all at once? Do intelligence and a controlling nature have any correlation? A lot of studies suggest insecure men try to control others and insecure women (redundant?) are clingy, needy and manipulative. Intelligence may make the typical man more secure and a woman less needy, emotional and manipulative. As for being chameleonesque and hiding what one is really like, men and women both do it. Men, however, are amateurs and women are professionals.

  Come on girl; you are slipping. Next please stereotype good looking men so that we can all learn!!!! HA.
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  How important do you believe education and knowledge is?

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how educated are you?

  and how great is your vocabularly ect ....?.

  do you think ir right to judge people by how intelligent/ educated they are and how much vocabulary they use???.

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  DJS

  I don't like educated snobs either, but I like uneducated, prideful and stubborn people less. I also think a humble disposition and humor are greater attractions than education and vocabulary, but they aren't mutually exclusive. I know a lot of educated people who are humble and funny. I know of a few academic snobs but I don't keep such as friends. The only problem I have with the comments to this OP is that they seem to focus on the tail ends of bell curves as if they are applicable to everyone. There are just as many uneducated, stubborn and prideful people as there are educated snobs. There are just as many people with education who are humble and funny as there are humble, funny uneducated people.

  I learned a long time ago that not all poor people have hearts of gold and not all rich people are mean.
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  is going to a strip club a disfellowshipping offense?

  by monis1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm pretty sure it is, just wanted to confirm.

  this would be someone who went once and only looked....

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  So Tal,

  You've been to strip clubs, huh? I've taken a number of women to strip clubs. Major fun. I have lots of stories. I'm not a woman and won't attempt to describe what I think is empowering to them, but I've listened to a few (when I wasn't staring) and, although stripping might not be the perfect job in a perfect world, it pays the bills. Any work is deserving of dignity and honor, including stripping. I didn't make the rules. Stripping isn't going away, so what would you/I/us do about it? Teach your children well, and then rely on them to make good decisions. If a girl chooses to be a stripper, then be the best damn stripper you can be and make as much money as possible while taking care of yourself. If it is a temporary 'position,' (pun intended), then make the most of it and have a plan. That's no different than any other transitional or beginning employment.

  Are they 'proud' of it? They might be if society would stop being so judgmental. So many in this area have stripped for so long at the same clubs that I can't create a scenario whereby they are being victimized or exploited really. And yes, lots of them have family who know what they do. Otherwise, I can't answer if they are proud. It is their choice. And have you ever seen a stripper work to get money out of your pocket? Who is exploiting whom? As for me, I treat strippers in the exact manner I treat everyone else I enounter in the working world, with dignity and respect. So let's hear your stories. ;-)
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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  So it's about 3 to 1 in favor of mocking and ridicule. With a few ties. Keep it clean. And funny. And creative. Mock on fellow ex-Dubs. Mock on.