you can measure the degree of passive aggressive control the jw's have over you by the degree to which you feel guilty when you stand up for yourself.
it's a multi billion dollar real estate corporation.
it's all about the money.
"It's not about you. It's all about the MONEY. and it is a VERY DANGEROUS CULT."
Well stated. If any of the sheeple make the mistake of thinking the Dark Lords care a wit about them, they are in for a big shock. The Dark Lords care about their own prominence and $. The Borg is a hate-filled high control cult that eats its own. And lurkers and curret Dubs, I came to this conclusion over two decades ago while I was an elder.
an eloquent major figure questioned, well worth listening to: on the multi continental conflict among muslims and their push against the secular world.. can be heard on you-tube.. .
Agreed that this leader appears to be part of the solution. He made an interesting final comment: "There are a lot of leaders around the Arab and Muslim world who want to come out and say "enough is enough"" regarding Muslim extremism.
Then why don't they?
was it necessary for god to kill all innocent firstborn children?
no other way out for the almighty god?.
Of course there are intelligent, rational and educated theists. The data shows a strong correlation between IQ, education and personality type and theism/atheism, and it was framed as such. Your comments about genitalia are so far from what we have all eperienced on this site that I can't even respond. Abortion is legal in many countries; find something which isn't.
Men minus god are always monsters?? Really, Cold Steel? We have provided volumes of empirical data which shows EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. You have read them I am certain. You just want to repeat mantras and hide behind old scrolls and long dead men. As Cofty says, welcome to the 21st Century. Mantras and rosary beads. Read and repeat those scriptures until you croak; it won't change the facts.
was it necessary for god to kill all innocent firstborn children?
no other way out for the almighty god?.
Coldsteel,
Your point about morals/integrity and atheism has been addressed numerous times on this forum. You have had to read the responses, and yet you spew the same tired, erroneous nonsense that, without your/a god,atheists will be monsters. We have provided an abundance of empirical data which suggests the following:
a. The higher an individual's IQ the more likely they are to be atheist.
b. The more formal education an individual has the more likely they are to be atheist.
c. The more rational an individual's personality (think Myers Briggs, Intuitive Thinker NT), the more likely they are to be atheist.
d. The more secular and atheistic a state, nation or region, the more likely it is to be functional with a higher level of integrity.
At least you boil it down to what typiclaly annoys theists about atheists - what mature, responsibile consenting adults choose to do with their genitalia. Why do you continue to repeat tired, erroneous garbage? Requiring a belief in a deity in order to do the right thing is weak and un-evolved. Atheists typically have figured out how to do the right thing for no other reason than it is the right thing, and our list of malfeasant behaviors - other than the aforementioned genitalia - would almost certainly match a similar list by a rational caring theist.
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.
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Undercover and Terry,
Two big dittos.
From Big Bang Theory:
Wil Wheaton: You're not still carrying a grudge because I beat you at that card tournament, are you?
Sheldon Cooper: I'm the proud owner of wilwheatonstinks.com, .net and .org. What does that tell you?
Wil Wheaton: It tells me that I am living rent-free right here.
[Points at Sheldon's head]
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.
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I have had several churches ask me for assistance in developing security/response plans for such things as active shooters. I work with experts in this area, protecting or destroying pretty much anything actually. Imagine what these dumbasses could have walked in to had it been a US church with an active shooter/assault plan and armed deacons. And yes, they exist. This was dumbassedness at its peak. It doesn't matter what an imaginary jesus did 2000 years ago, nor does it matter if what they did was legal. It was disrespectful to the KH, it hurts the anti-JW movement, and it could have caused bodily harm to the dumbasses or the KH members.
But this is the world wide web, where any dumbass idea gets, at least on the surface, equal footing with rational intelligent responses. Before this post I knew nothing of the AAJAW or whatever it is called. I may be glad.
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.
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What does a make believe character from 2000 years ago have to do with anything. Watching this is painful; these guys are idiots and a disgrace. It's bad enough that ONE of them was stupid enough to do this. He obviously had a camera man with him, which simply means there are two dumbasses. Bell curve. Some will find it acceptable.
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.
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The yocals are nothing but worker bees, programmed drones if you will. When attacked they are programmed to defend the hive and especially the queen, even giving up their lives for the bitch. On auto pilot more worker bees will respond to the effort while a message will be sent to the Queen (Dark Lords). The Dark Lords will praise worker bee drones, re-inforce the worker bees under attack and use the event to send an alarm to all the other hives. This accomplishes nothing. Better tools/weapons, ranked in order:
1. World Wide Web - very effective over the long run but is based on 'pull'
2. Social media - More effective based on some pull and a lot of 'push'
3. Lawyers and lawsuits - Effective at hurting the queen bee, sometimes badly
4. Laws - the most effective and where it appears some western countries are headed to address hate speech, segregation, separation of families, etc.
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.
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The Dark Lords will call these diseased apostates, and I would agree with them (at least with the diseased part). This type of activity can only serve one purpose, IMHO, and that is an emotional release by those carrying out the protest. It accomplishes nothing and will likely have the reverse effect, as many have also stated. But behavior runs the bell curve. We see it on this site. Ninety percent of us think that BOTR's rant against the JW lady was not only wrong but counter-productive, for example, while a few thought it great. The vast majority of us thought that Kairos should avoid blasting away at the elder, while a couple thought it wonderful activity.
It isn't great; it is disrespectful to the Borg's members and it is counterproductive. These types of activities serve no purpose other than the childish, immature emotional release by those carrying out the protest/attack/vent. We were all hurt by the Borg, some of us worse than others. But there are better ways.
leave it in jehovah's hands.
is there a more disgusting phrase in jw land?.
the abuse, harms, thefts, suicides, family destruction - leave it in jehovah's hands.. why would anyone with a more than 2 neurons say, "oh that makes sense," we do not need to change or intervene in any way.. sooner or later, god will take of things.. .
I am embarrased that I once believed the few million dubs on the planet would be spared while our loving god and his loving son brutally destroyed every other living person. I'm ashamed. How any ex-dubs can go from that to thinking that god and jesus will destroy everyone on the planet except for those who have made jesus their lord and savior escapes me. It would be tolerable if AbleBodiedMan, TEC, Givemejustalittlemoretime, Perry and the other hard core jesus loving theists would state how well they have done with jesus, how much jesus means to them, BUT leave open the possibility that other avenues including atheism are acceptable for those who don't believe in their jesus.
They are no different than the Dark Lords and the Borg which we all loathe. It is hate speech; it deserves our strongest condemnation. Their mindset enables them to easily hate anyone else, e.g. gays, that doesn't fit into their model of salvation.
