Posts by DJS

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Implications of gay marriage ruling

by Rattigan350 in

while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.

but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.

five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.

DJS

JG,

Yeah, I believed all of that once. A long time ago. In a galaxy far, far away. I hate that person and what he believed. JG, by all means continue to believe what you believe and be on what you think is the 'right' side of god. Please. Continue. But your beliefs haven't one single thing to do with the US Constitution and the utilitarian, for the common good protections therein.

They protect everyone, whether they believe in your god or not. You and your kind would force your beliefs down the throats of the rest of us. Marriage is a secular entity; it is a governmental interest as was pointed out on the "Orange" OP. Free and fair commerce is also a governmental interest, and they have consistently ruled that you x-tian haters can't use your religion to refuse service to gays or blacks or anyone else your hate filled god and his hate filled followers want to hate.

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Implications of gay marriage ruling

by Rattigan350 in

while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.

but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.

five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.

DJS

JG and Rat,

Your whining is tedious and unflattering. You lost. Get over it. You are on the wrong side of history on this topic - not to mention that your kind, with each passing month and year, becomes more of a minority in this country and the other W. democracies, until, one day in the not too distant future, your kind will pass. You are dead men walking.

Perhaps this is just the last few gasps of agonal respiration. Let's hope.

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Implications of gay marriage ruling

by Rattigan350 in

while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.

but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.

five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.

DJS

JG,

If any of the other justices had ever been involved with a hetero marriage, that would have had as much to do with their ability to rule objectively as the two justices you mention. That is a false argument. A red herring. But one mentioned routinely on the R Wing Fundie sites and by their leaders.

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Implications of gay marriage ruling

by Rattigan350 in

while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.

but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.

five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.

DJS

SS,

Great video. I've been to West Point Military Academy several times. I've not met this gentlemen, but I have a close friend who is a counselor there, and one of their Lts. helped me with putting together an Intelligence Analysis course I taught a few years ago. "States' Rights,' when used by the Rush ditto heads, is a cover for hate.

OC,

Great post. The US Constitution was a visionary document put together by men who understood that majority rules have their place in a democracy and should be honored and protected. They also understood the rights of the individual - and those in the minority - when they crafted both our government, how the votes are tallied for the POTUS and especially the Constitution. It was and is a utilitarian, for the common good of all document.

Clearly, the R Wing and x-tian Fundies do not have a clue how the Constitution works.

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Implications of gay marriage ruling

by Rattigan350 in

while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.

but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.

five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.

DJS

SS,

Ditto. I've noticed over the past few years that a lot of R wing Fundie types are using the constitutional/states' rights argument. It isn't that the states' rights argument isn't valid at times, but when it comes to issues that are for the common good, that are utilitarian in nature, the Constitution is the final arbiter.

Imperfect humans interpret that document; they haven't always gotten it right, but thankfully, over time, the SCOTUS fixes their mistakes and gets it right. They got it right this time.

The Fundie types often use the states' rights argument to re-write history. Recently I heard a close friend of mine (a x-tian R wing fundie, yes I have friends of all stripes) state that the Civil War wasn't about slavery - it was about states' rights. That's nothing but a parroting of the Grand Poobas of hate, such as Rush. There are so many historical documents from the old S that show clearly the Civil War was about slavery. States' rights were a secondary issue, and Fundies try to use it now to justify hate.

That's serving as the backdrop for Rat's rant. The x-tian Fundies hate is clear (god hates fangs and sodomy); the politico fundies try to put a more pleasant looking bow on their package of hate. State rights is that bow.

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I've decided to make a difference that REALLY matters

by Mrs. Eden in

hello friends!today is a sad day for me, as seven months have gone by since my mother passed away after a decades-long fight with breast cancer..

because the witnessing/preaching/teaching work doesn't make any sense to me anymore; because it's not about any "truth"; and because it's basically useless, i've decided to quit doing it.

instead, i've decided to do something that actually can make a real difference in other people's lives.

DJS

Ms. Eden,

I am very proud of you. I volunteered quite a bit after exiting the cult 2 decades ago; it was very rewarding. Thank you for sharing; your presence on this site, along with Mr. Eden, is uplifting to all of us.

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Implications of gay marriage ruling

by Rattigan350 in

while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.

but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.

five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.

DJS

JG,

Some may have cried as you state, but the majority of gays and those supporting their cause understood that the ruling could go either way (just like the perfect GF). As jws points out, they were in it for the long run and would have re-directed their efforts to the individual states.

Our federal and state governments confer enormous economic and social privileges to married couples. Prohibiting same sex couples from being legally identified kept them from such privileges and benefits, even though many gay and lesbian couples have been together for many, many years.

And you two haters are OK with that. You two are on the losing side of history. Your kind did the same thing in the civil rights' era. Now they are dead or have STFU. Just as you will.

Now stop whining.

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Happy birthday to me!

by purrpurr in

it's my birthday!

woweee!

i'm celebrating it too!

DJS

Happy B-day PurrPurr

(Is it just me or are the cats taking over on this site? - not that it is a bad thing!)

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Thinking about taking my fiance to a meeting.. going as a "worldly person"

by OneStepOut93 in

i may take my fiance to a meeting.

give them fake names and just see how my fiance reacts.

he's been curious about seeing what i hated so much about the whole thing (not that he'll really understand everything, i mean of course he never will to my extent but)... i'd like to see what an outsiders view on the whole thing would be as well.

DJS

OneStep,

I've seen your picture; they won't be looking at him.

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Arctic Ice Increasing

by Perry in

arctic has gained hundreds of miles of ice the last three years.

red shows the september 2012 minimum extent.

green shows the current extent, which is likely the minimum for 2015. the arctic has gained hundreds of miles of ice over the past three years, much of which is thick, multi-year ice.. article.

DJS

Besty,

Thanks for the video link. What annoys the living hell out of me about revdip and those like him is that they could have found this link and similar information with a simple web search. They prefer to listen to sound bites coming from Rush and other Fundies, parroting their brain dead mantras without so much as a second thought.

Sadly, there are lots of people like revdip. Most of them thankfully are in the same generational group; here's hoping these people either completely lose their influence on decisions that are made about such things as climate change - or die off in time for those coming behind them to fix social and environmental problems in time.

It should be embarrassing to the revdips of the world. Sadly, it isn't.