Perry,
I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your mother and the hurtfulness of those who didn't let you know. My thoughts are with you.
none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
Perry,
I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your mother and the hurtfulness of those who didn't let you know. My thoughts are with you.
i know it's not easy for you to walk it's a big decision, family and etc.. if you are afraid consider this.
i have been here for a few years and i can count on one hand from posters who made the statement, i can't take it anymore, i'm going back.. what is it that members here have given up their family and friends to be free.
is it so we can have sinful fun, we are our own person and no one will tell us what to do?.
"One of my female friends confided in me that she slept with every guy she met after she left and she was completely reckless. I know 3 other ex-sisters who became strippers."
Once again, hear-say. In order to conduct a complete and thorough investigation to validate your claims, I must have the names and contact information for these women so that I can conduct my un-biased investigation. You may pm me the information.
i am still serving as an elder but just hanging in there.
i think their quandry is that they don't see me out in the field, but when they need encouragement and decent prayer they come to me.. i just got off the phone to this poor sister who i have only met twice.
she is not even in my congregation (her sister is).
iwasblind,
Thank you for this post. I was exactly where you are now when I was an elder. I grew to despise how each congregation was beating down people, all at the direction of the Dark Lords. However, it was before the world wide web in all of its present glory, so I lacked the insight you have. You have my admiration. Good luck.
.. and fun too !
:d. what?
were you expecting a "but"?
Yes Simon. I was expecting - and hoping- for a but, a big one. I like big buts and I cannot lie.
from a recent reddit thread:.
i just received confirmation from a very trusted source in south africa bethel that up to 500 "families" (i imagine couples or singles) are getting let go from that branch.. also confirmed is the special pioneer cull.. what really strikes me about the layoffs is that the south african bethel provides literature and other needs for most of africa, a huge growth area for the org.. .
link:.
Africa may be a growth area for the Dark Lords, but they are without a doubt going to be the most expensive and the least profitable customers to serve, from a business standpoint. And the Dark Lords are running a business. These are 'customers' no business would pursue until they could develop a profit model. And that doesn't appear to be possible in the near or long terms.
Excellent.
found this article very amusing.
it's a report on iceland and how many people still regard themselves as religious.. look at how many jw's there are in iceland!
http://grapevine.is/news/2015/10/01/666-registered-members-of-the-jehovahs-witnesses-in-iceland/.
Username,
Great find and very funny! I wonder if there were really 665 and the demographer couldn't help him/herself. There are 5 times more members of a pagan sex cult than dubs, I'm liking Iceland. A lot.
" alarmageddon " .
this term came to mind as i thought of just how weird it is that witnesses actually look forward to seeing billions of people killed..... also, at how strange it is that the org has repeatedly tried to work out the date or time for it to happen.
(although they will deny doing this ...but the old publications and talks etc are there on record!
Stuck,
Alarmageddon!!! Way!!! I wish I had thought of that. As far as the Zombie Apocalypse, I believe it has already started.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
Cap,
Try violating the law of gravity. Hint: you can't!
Yes you can. They are called boob jobs.
i have put up previous posts about this in the past, but i just thought that it was worth mentioning again.
it has to be of concern to them with how quickly information is getting leaked.
hell it even surprises at just how slowly information spreads by offical means.
OneEyedJoe's comments about Apple ring true. I've done a lot of work related to the semi-conductor industry. They typically have the highest level of security in the for profit industries. And interestingly, most of the security is not designed to mitigate external threats; it is designed to mitigate internal threats and the loss of intellectual capital, etc. from walking, emailing, texting, faxing, etc. out the door.
This makes sense for these industries, as the trade secrets, etc. are their profit centers. You won't find this level of internal operational and physical security at many for profit places, and those with higher levels of security are almost always mitigating external threats. I could bore you with all of the internal process changes that the Dark Lords would need to implement to mitigate leaks, but suffice it to say that they would be enormous.
i have put up previous posts about this in the past, but i just thought that it was worth mentioning again.
it has to be of concern to them with how quickly information is getting leaked.
hell it even surprises at just how slowly information spreads by offical means.
"I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to release letters that were not true but in a rue to catch bethelites or elders who leak out..."
This is always a possibility, but as I've mentioned before, denial/deception and other intelligence/counter-intelligence issues, especially at the large, multi-national corporate level, are very complicated things to develop, implement and manage effectively.
These types of 'games' if you will often require separate dedicated departments, and they are almost always the most secretive and highly controlled departments. To accomplish this effectively, the Dark Lords would have to expend a lot of resources and have contingency plans for unintended consequences, denial, spin masters, etc.
So many on this site routinely point out that the Dark Lords aren't bright enough to get in out of the rain; it is highly implausible that they are bright enough to effectively develop and manage such a highly complex process.
If they are stupid enough to try this, then that means the mean old apostates have a hook in their mouths. And that would be most excellent.