Posts by DJS

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A JW experience

by Saintbertholdt in

this is a quick experience i have recently had and i have two questions at the end.. a couple of weeks ago, the dogs were barking at the gate on saturday morning and wouldn't you know it, it was some witnesses.

there was a father with his lovely wife and their young daughter.

the father did all the talking as mother and daughter just dutifully smiled and watched.

DJS

Saint,

Some possible reasons for his lack of engagement:

1. This particular publisher wasn't prepared academically to engage you but isn't typical of publishers

2. This particular publisher was prepared but not emotionally ready to engage on this specific day

3.This particular publisher was prepared academically but dis-engaged on a permanent basis (loss of commitment) from trying to engage others who present an objection

4. This particular publisher is representative of the typical publisher in their lack of ability/preparation to engage academically in theistic discussions or when objections are presented

5. This particular publisher is representative of the typical publisher in their lack of commitment to engage anyone at any time once an objection is made

6. This particular publisher is representative of the typical publisher in both their lack of ability/preparation and commitment to engage once an objection is made.

Class?

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how do most of you now feel about the military?

by sowhatnow in

was not sure where to post this, but i was curious, how do some of you now feel about the military?

would any of you let your children enlist, or would you yourselves join any military field?

how do you feel about the idea of women in the military?

DJS

New Boy's rant is so lacking in maturity and rational thought that it makes it difficult to believe he is even serious. "We" got free of religion? The world is becoming less religious by the minute, and the world in the future will likely be largely free of religion and/or existing religions will have evolved to be what they should be - support structures for people. We have presented multitudes of data suggesting this.

The world is in a major paradigm shift already in that regard, and the less religious an individual, state, nation or region are, the more likely they are to be functional. There is nothing religion provides that this planet requires that can't be provided by a government, a group or the individual.

The absence of government, OTOH, suggests either Anarchy or Self Rule. I'm assuming that New Boy isn't considering anarchy, and we have some very good data as to how "self rule', which existed for about 85,000 of our 100,000 years, would work out. Evolutionary biologists suggest that period was much more violent than now when we have nation/states ruled by governments. Your chances of dying a violent death were many times more likely when we had self rule.

So unless New Boy can present something rational supported by something close to evidence as to how this brave new world free of government would work, he has reached the point where he should be ignored.

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how do most of you now feel about the military?

by sowhatnow in

was not sure where to post this, but i was curious, how do some of you now feel about the military?

would any of you let your children enlist, or would you yourselves join any military field?

how do you feel about the idea of women in the military?

DJS

Apparently New Boy is capable of only making sense when he is talking about his favorite subject and the only thing he seems to know anything about.

Himself.

475

What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

DJS

Oh (former) Brother, Where Art Thou . . .

… after a major earthquake, a Middle East War or a stock market crash? I'm betting in the front row of the local Kingdom Hall.

But before you kick me out of 'Woolsworth', I just want to ask whether it's ALL the 'Woolsworth' or just this one?

Jhine, I don't have Patience the stripper's phone number, but I've a few NSFW stories about a couple of her co-workers.

DOC,

In the 20 years or so before coming onto this site in June of 2013, I never had the first religious discussion with anyone, and this site is the only time I ever talk about being an ex-dub and I resolutely avoid religious discussions here as well. Regarding the dubs: the few times they have come to my house or have crossed my path I have been kind, gentle and positive. I've been outside working in my lawn a few times when they have been in FS, and I am respectful and kind (otherwise I practice that time-honored practice - I avoid them). There is no need in shooting the messenger. Now those old white dudes (and one token) in Brooklyn . . . . . .

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Are You No Longer Interested in the Arts?

by compound complex in

jw
friends

greetings, new friends and old:.

i've been here some nine years now and have learned a lot.

made many dear friends.

DJS

Compound Complex,

I am a supporter of the arts. I've posted pictures of my house illustrating some of my art collection, and I've supported and volunteered at our local museum for many years. In addition I have supported the local Opera community and the Symphony.

I don't talk about it much because it seems that it seems pretentious to do so. I've avoided adding another pejorative adjective to arrogant wise ass. I don't know though. Pretentious Arrogant Wise Ass. What do you think, class? Better? Worse? Same?

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how do most of you now feel about the military?

by sowhatnow in

was not sure where to post this, but i was curious, how do some of you now feel about the military?

would any of you let your children enlist, or would you yourselves join any military field?

how do you feel about the idea of women in the military?

DJS

newboy,

Hopefully your comment was a aberration. You usually make sense. I'm with Cofty (dammit Cofty, be WRONG once!!).

Bad choices in which wars are begun or entered and how they are fought are typically caused by politicos and not the military; the War in Vietnam is a textbook example of this.

Having worked closely with various current and former military people the past 20 years, I've developed a huge amount of respect for what they do. The vast majority of them want to do the right thing. They are on that wall because they are drawn to protect what is behind it.

I find that a noble cause.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

DJS

Oh I forgot,

The Dark Lords and their Evil Wraith Elders are collecting us all together, ensuring we are all shiny, clean and white so that they can make sure no one wearing a different color gets on the Ark (they've trained their body snatchers to immediately spot someone with an individual conscience). And they know the time is reduced. After all, it's almost 1879. I mean, it's almost 1914. I mean, it's very, very close to 1925. Did I say 1925? What I really meant is that it is damned near being 1935.

Oh darned. A senior moment (these topics are so Compound and Complex). What I really, really meant is it's almost 1975. Or was that 1999?

Well. It WILL be in this generation. Or was it the other generation? Or do the two overlap? Help me Compound Complex, you're my only hope.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

DJS

jhine,

Too much Starbucks in the morning. But really, is it even possible to have too much Starbucks?

And it isn't really my fault (classic blame shifting to follow). I exercised 'loving kindness' and virtuous Patience (the virtue, NOT the stripper at the Platinum Club. Although Patience (the stripper not the virtue) definitely has a few virtuous ass-spects).

I didn't respond until two months after this OP started and not until post 231. I'm improving.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

DJS

Coded,

Well done. I've avoided this OP because I can't respond in a respectful manner. You summed up most of what I would say if I was being fettered. I would have added to take back control of your conscience, your freedom of choice in what you read, watch, consider, whether you go to college or allow your children to go to college, whether you go to proms or school functions or whether you allow your children to participate in them, whether you play sports or allow your children to play sports, whether you vote, what you or your children wear or how you each cut your hair, whether you celebrate birthdays or other holidays, whether you build a house or start a business or go on a vacation or any of the other life choices that are YOUR business and NONE of the business of the Dark Lords or their henchmen elders.

This is also meant for the delusional, I mean disillusioned lady thinking about getting reinstated after 26 years.

I would rather be shot in the head with a rusty nail gun than spend one more minute inside that death dealing, ambition killing, dysfunction attracting, dysfunction breeding, hate filled, personal conscience and individual choice robbing cult that eats its own at perhaps the highest rate in history.

And if their god is such a small minded, hysterical, insecure, jealous, un-trusting, homicidal, vengeful POS, she can go fukk herself as well.

See, I told you I couldn't be respectful.

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Reinstated and Still Shuned!

by new boy in

jw
friends

i was at a wedding the summer before i left the jws and i met an old friend.

he had been reinstated for 6 months, he was dfed for 4 years.

so it took him 3 1/2 years before they would let him back in.

DJS

Sowhatnow,

Some of that is human nature; all of that is Dark Lord nature. But you make a salient point. It reminds me of an old joke about an Irishman and a goat . . . .