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  Sophia and Caleb videos helped wake me up

  by Sevan in

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  2. beliefs

  so the sophia and caleb videos on jw.org where the parents emotionally abuse their children (especially the sparlock/obey jehovah video and the pay attention at the meetings/death threat video) were real eye openers for me.

  previous to these videos, i was able to delude myself that the crazy, unbalanced behavior i noticed in some witness parents was the result of their own mental issues.

  now i realize this craziness is being pushed and encouraged from the tippy top, from the grand ole maleficent seven.

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  Sevan,

  Great OP. Thank you. I came to the same conclusions simply by observing my 2 beautiful children and the world around me.

  If the Sophia and Caleb videos had existed I'm sure they would have sped up the process.

  Well done.
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  Could Joel Osteen Bring the JWs Out of Their Doldrums?

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  russell had some charisma, as did the alcoholic womanizer, j.f.

  rutherford.

  n.h. knorr, not so much.

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  The Rebel, ditto to the religious charlatans and politicos. I changed the pic of Victoria because it was way too large. I didn't realize the new picture would impact your comments about her hands. The new picture is smaller and doesn't overwhelm the screen.
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  Could Joel Osteen Bring the JWs Out of Their Doldrums?

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  russell had some charisma, as did the alcoholic womanizer, j.f.

  rutherford.

  n.h. knorr, not so much.

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  Yes, The Rebel, but you are far less shallow than I.
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  Could Joel Osteen Bring the JWs Out of Their Doldrums?

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  russell had some charisma, as did the alcoholic womanizer, j.f.

  rutherford.

  n.h. knorr, not so much.

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  If not Joel than most certainly VIctoria. She brings me out of my, um, doldrums

  
  
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  spiritual

  by stan livedeath in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read the word "spiritual" sometimes on the site.

  what exactly do the jw's mean by it ?.

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  What Punk and Cofty say,

  The DarkLords use it to judge and control. And to show everyone how very special they are.

  It slays me that ex or exiting Dubs use this term in a pejorative sense about themselves. It's common for an awake spouse to describe themselves as less spiritual than their still- in blind mate, as if they are deficient in some manner.There are several current examples.

  This is a meaningless word.. Or it can have so many applications as to make it non specific, generic, all encompassing.

  To my lovely exiting and ex dubs: End the use of such words as applied by the DarkLords. It will speed you on your way to recovery.

  And please stop calling it the truth. Makes me cringe and want to throw up.
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  Theists, why does God allow suffering..

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ..specifically, the suffering of animals.

  you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

  i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

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  RP1. Geesh. Yet another one.

  This should be fun. I will make us all popcorn.
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  Jehovah's Witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. beliefs

  british columbia, canada.

  jehovah's witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves.

  a pair of devout jehovah's witnesses have been ordered by a b.c.

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  Sounds like this would be an excellent concept for this site. There are similarities between children of divorce and those who have left the DarkTower: Broken families, destroyed relationships. Broken trust.

  Both are emotionally and psychologically fragile.

  Keep it to yourselves. Excellent ruling.
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  Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

  can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

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  If this is true:

  The DarkLords have always had a fatal attraction to the pope. My guess is they are going to emulate his recent apology, for child abuse they enabled. I second Red pill's motion.
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

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  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Anony mouse,

  Cofty has many supporters. We each have our areas of intetest. This is one of Coftys, and he excels at providing insight on many other topics.

  I'm a Cofty ditto head, but I've no interest in theism, no desire to discuss evolution, etc, so I view the carnage quietly from afar. And I pity the fools.

  But don't mistake that for thinking he is on an island by himself.

  We are legion.
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  About 30 percent of American citizens (aka Trump supporters) —and maybe lots more—are as dumb as a bag of inbred hammers.

  From a recent (2013) Vanity Fair article, citing a poll taken by Public Policy Polling, ranked by Fordham University as the best out of 28 organizations for the accuracy of its national pre-election estimates.

  Twenty-six percent of Americans either believe that Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ, and is preparing for war with the Messiah or aren’t sure that he isn’t. 26 percent also believe that the government puts fluoride into drinking water not for dental health but for “other, more sinister reasons,” as the P.P.P. question read. It was all a communist plot, you see, to do . . . something.

  Fifty-four percent of Americans—either believes that childhood vaccinations cause autism or aren’t sure whether they do. Never mind that study after study, including one just released by the Centers for Disease Control, say this belief is uneducated malarkey. Why should anyone consider that when we have former Playboy model and B-movie actress Jenny McCarthy disagreeing? Yes, that is where we are: Americans are more likely to believe a nursing-school dropout than PhDs from America’s most prestigious institutions of higher learning.

  Forty-nine percent either believe the college dropouts and billionaires or aren’t sure if they should—that global warming is a hoax. Not simply that scientists are in error (which they aren’t) but that they have orchestrated the most expensive, wide-ranging, and mind-numbing fraud in the history of the world, just ’cause.

  Once again, it’s the PhDs versus college dropouts like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Sure, there are a few scientists—almost never climatologists—who cast aspersions on the idea that all the melting ice and record temperatures in the world might have something to do with the planet getting warmer. But when the vast, vast, vast majority of scientists—including one hired by the Koch brothers, the multi-billionaires with a financial interest in poo-poohing climate change—have concluded not only that the phenomenon is real but that it is being triggered by man-made pollutants, perhaps doubters should set aside their doubts.

  But the Limbaughs and Hannitys of the world have done a great job convincing Americans that climatologists have entered into this massive, incomprehensible conspiracy to fool the world that there’s a problem. The reason, they say, is that climatologists are doing it for the money, so they can continue to live in their climatologist mansions and drive their climatologist Ferraris. (For the 26 percent who might not get it, that was sarcasm.) Meanwhile, the people who selflessly fight for Americans—the billionaire industrialists and oil-industry magnates—speak only truth because, you know, they have no financial reason to suggest climate change is a fraud. After all, they have dedicated themselves to a modest life so they can advance the truth, residing in their tumble-down, billionaire shacks and driving their billionaire 1994 Chevys. (Once again—sarcasm.)

  If a doctor said you had stomach cancer, would you consult Rush Limbaugh for a second opinion? Of course, that sounds like nonsense, but many Americans have no qualms about listening to political commentators and untrained activists when it comes to even more complex scientific questions. In essence, the greater amount of training it takes to understand something, the more likely, it seems, that Americans will turn to people with shallow knowledge for guidance.

  Take vaccines and autism. The entire idea started with a horrific, fraudulent study in a 1998 issue of the Lancet. Click on the link to the abstract, and you’ll notice the large, red word “RETRACTED” across it. The reason is that the study has been deemed a fraud. Not a single legitimate study backs the idea. But the McCarthys of the world march on, true believers who are simply unqualified, frightening Americans into believing their children are safer if they have no protections against deadly disease.

  The untrained assault on climate change is the same thing. Consistently, political commentators will say such things as “there’s a blizzard! Global warming is fake!” without any understanding that there is a huge difference between weather and climate.](http://www.nasa.gov/missionpages/noaa-n/climate/climateweather.html))