Posts by DJS

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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

by Watchtower-Free in

alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

over 2 minutes of pranking .

as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

by Watchtower-Free in

alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

over 2 minutes of pranking .

as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

Different strokes, attaching a 'modern' label to it is also childish and immature. I'm modern in most every way, but this type of behavior towards a leader of a religion, company, etc. is sophomoric, juvenile and counter productive. I can't imagine anything good coming from this nonsense that will benefit the rank and file Dubs, the anti-JW movement or that will make the Dark Lords soften their hate-filled vitriolic teachings.

Most humans, when confronted with data that they are wrong, simply become entrenched. We see it on this site everyday. And these are normal humans (with the noted exceptions for the self appointed delusional new GB members or the traveling proselytizing, preaching, pious, and pontificating who routinely show up).

Since these men are about to sit at god's right hand and rule over the universe, the chance that any such prankish acts can touch their hearts is infinitesimally small. Nonexistent. The GB member will simply dust it off and continue to remind himself that he is the elite of the elite, and Cedars and those like him are apostates deserving of death.

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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

by Watchtower-Free in

alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

over 2 minutes of pranking .

as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

DJS

I didn't want to be the first one to say this, but this is childish and counter-productive.

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Curious how today's JWs view the anti-vaxxer movement

by undercover in

i wonder how the average jw in our modern world views the new anti-vaxxer movement.

do they sympathize, agree - or - see them as kooky, out of touch, nutso - or - somewhere in between.. remember, back in the olden, golden days...or should i say, the golden age, the wts took a hard line stance against vaccinations.

see jwfacts info regarding the the anti-vaccination stand taken by the wts:.

DJS

Curiously in the US, the anti-vaccination movement has been spearheaded by the educated and the elite, which is exactly opposite from those opposed to vaccines in 3rd world countries, who typically are the least educated and the superstitious.

A discredited 1998 study by a British doctor along with a decade long campaign of hysteria waged by Playmate Jenny McCarthy have fueled the anti-vaxxers. Jenny should stick to showing her boobs instead of being one.

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Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple

by cofty in

an oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.

how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.

DJS

Yeah, I saw that in the news and expected it would be someone like that. A business has a right to establish policies based on legitimate business interests. A policy against hate speech would almost certainly be supported by the courts as a legitimate business interest. The NFL, NBA, Duck Dynasty, etc. have anti-hate speech policies which have been vetted and withstood legal scrutiny. This idiot is wasting everyone's time.

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Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple

by cofty in

an oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.

how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.

DJS

Another of my favorite movies. The longest name in cinema: "MyNameisInigoMontoyaYouKilledMyFatherPrepareToDie."

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Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple

by cofty in

an oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.

how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.

DJS

Viv,

I'm a stalker!!! I will try to limit it to stealing your words!!!!

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Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple

by cofty in

an oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.

how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.

DJS

Most excellent. They got exactly what they deserve. And thanks Blondie for that info; damn litigious Canadians!!! Eh!

We discuss this topic every few months it seems. And the responses are the same: those who believe it is not a constitutional right on one side, and those who believe that a business should be able to do what it wishes on the other (good luck with that). And side 1 always wins, because few if any courts in the US have ever found that a business selling commercial services to the general public has a First Amendment right to turn away customers on a discriminatory basis.

And yes, there was a recent court case where the KKK won a lawsuit against a bakery that wouldn't bake them a cake because it offended the owner's religious beliefs. Google it. That is a specious (that means the argument/statement sounds reasonable but is actually woo (yes, I stole Viviane’s word – deal with it) with a bow on it) argument.

Like it or not, the courts have ruled that bakers, photographers, and other businesses are exactly that — businesses. Their business decisions are not speech; they are commercial transactions that are open to the entire public regardless of race, gender, religion, ethnic origin (the original Civil rights Laws circa 1964) and disabilities (ADA – circa 1990) and now sexual orientation based on numerous recent cases. Or Democrats, Republicans, the KKK, the Boy Scouts, Rotary Club or the Black Panthers (are they even still around?), as long as these groups are operating legally and aren’t making requests for services or products that are seditious, illegal or that violate legitimate business interests (e.g., a restaurant can require shoes/shirts for service).

The courts have consistently ruled that free speech rights don’t trump civil rights laws guarded by the Constitution. Businesses are public accommodations, not private individuals. There is no difference between a baker and a bank. Either the business offers its services to everyone, or it doesn’t.

ChaseSerious is one of our legal experts, and he can speak much more eloquently than I on this topic, but the courts have consistently ruled in the same manner for decades. The real problem is with individuals thinking they have rights that they do not have. Nor should they have.

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Can the world condition be worse than this?

by abiather in

the innocent civilians being attacked is the norm of the day.

attacking hospitals too are happening frequently.

now schools being attacked is becoming a regular affair (last of its kind massacred 150 children in peshawar on december 16, 2014)..

DJS

Abiathar,

I'm still waiting for you to pick a time that you would prefer to live in other than today. Do you like your own running water? If so, that would place you in the 20th Century - but only in a few places. Like hot water with that? Further in the 20th Century. Do you enjoy not having to split wood, shovel coal, dig peat moss or dry cow dung for fuel to keep you warm or cook your food? If so, once again you are squarely in the 20th Century and a few places at that.

Do you get retirement benefits? Health care? Do you like the state of the art hospitals? Do you like cable tv, the internet (obviously)?

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Quick introduction

by OzGirl in

jw
friends

only have a few minutes to spare so thought i would throw this together.. been in for about 30 years.

questions and doubts gathered over that time.

i have a keen interest in the legal and financial matters of the watchtower.. came across this site about 5 years ago.

DJS

Welcome OzGirl (my favorite movie ever),

Are you Dorothy? Glinda (my first crush)? Elvira Gulch (da da da da dahhhh da, da da da da da)?, The Wicked Witch of the East (can't be, that's my ex wife), The Wicked Witch of the West (can't be, that's my ex-GF)? Auntie Em? Auntie Em? Auntie Em?

Seriously, welcome to the forum.