ladies , its not just me, is it?..

by sowhatnow in

ok ladies, has there been any documented studies on the role religion or society plays in keeping women in an economical and social disadvantaged state ?

im wondering how many other women out there in the world, who either being raised or being long term followers of a strict religious faith,with traditional family structures, have upon either divorce or death of a spouse find it nearly impossible to find a mate or economic stability , and live out the remainder of their lives struggling and either bouncing from one guy to another, being disappointed or used, or simply alone.

i have personally felt, that i, being a xjw and now divorced woman , with no acceptable work skills,[ ie: fancy resume with degrees] living of low wage part time work and barely any alimony , will simply be viewed as someone trying to get another man to support her.

DJS

SoWhatNow,

I told myself NOT to enter an OP about dating, as I have a bad picker. Please, listen to LisaRose and a few of the others. Having said that, everyone has a right to want what they want. You shouldn’t judge men who want an independent woman with her own income. Like a lot of men, I’ve paid for almost everything associated with dating and I was the sole income earner when I was married (long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away). So now I won't accept someone who can't or won't pay their fair share.

For over 2 decades I’ve been single; most of that time I wasn’t in or pursuing a relationship. However, I like girls. A lot. Well, girl parts actually, but that’s another OP. Anyway, when I have been looking for a relationship, I have an ever increasing list of things that I am looking for and another for things I won’t accept.

You think you got problems finding someone? Try finding a blonde, blue-eyed, beautiful, brainy, busty, bisexual who is sane, kind, generous and rational. Oh, and whose father owns a liquor store.

Obviously with a list like that there are times when I‘ve had to jettison some of the requirements. On several occasions I’ve waived the liquor store thing-ey, for example. And since no woman is truly sane and rational, I’ve had to give up on those too. But I’ve held on to the more important things.

Otherwise, you seem to be a very nice person with a lot to give. Do not minimize your gifts. As others have stated, there is a someone out there for you, looking for you. Good luck.

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Bill Cosby - too much smoke for no fire?

by Simon in

it seems like the list of people who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault is growing every day.

i'm skeptical of single accusations but the number of people and the similar stories seem overwhelming now.. it's not a conviction but to the court of public opinion ... guilty?.

.

DJS

You all may get your wish:

Open Criminal Investigation for Bill Cosby, LAPD Confirms, July 8, 2015, 1:38 PM ET

By LINSEY DAVIS, Correspondent, ABC News

The Los Angeles Police Department said it will explore any sexual assault accusations against embattled TV star and comedian Bill Cosby, including accusations for which the statute of limitations has expired.

Disney Removes Bill Cosby Statue at Hollywood Studios

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Bill Cosby - too much smoke for no fire?

by Simon in

it seems like the list of people who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault is growing every day.

i'm skeptical of single accusations but the number of people and the similar stories seem overwhelming now.. it's not a conviction but to the court of public opinion ... guilty?.

.

DJS

Ditto Simon. In one of my earlier posts on this OP I indicated that he would be ultimately abandoned by the entertainment industry. Another despicable aspect of the Cos' 40 year rape spree is that he used his fame and feigning mentoring attractive young women to lure them into position. The man is despicable on many levels.

Isn't it ironic, don't you think?

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Stats on Gay Marriage & Religious Belief

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

so just how non-judgmental, tolerant, respectful, caring, loving, liberal and humane are the religious groups?.

"findings from prris american values atlas, which draws on 40,000 interviews among a random sample of americans, provides the most in-depth portrait to date of attitudes on same-sex marriage by religious affiliation.. the most supportive major religious groups are buddhists (84 percent), jews (77 percent), and americans who select other religion (75 percent); additionally, more than three-quarters (77 percent) of the religiously unaffiliated also support same-sex marriage.. more than six in ten (62 percent) white mainline protestants support same-sex marriage.

among white mainline protestant denominations, support ranges from 69 percent support among white mainline presbyterians and 68 percent among both white episcopalians and white congregationalists/united church of christ members, to lower support among white mainline baptists (53 percent) and white mainline church of christ/disciples (50 percent).. and while the catholic church officially opposes the legalization of same-sex marriage, about six in ten white (61 percent), hispanic (60 percent), and other non-white catholics (60 percent) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally.

DJS

Snare,

Not surprising, is it. The 25% of the Dubs who were OK with gay marriage could have done so based on marriage being a state/constitutional issue rather than a moral one. When I was a dub I would have been ok with gay marriage even when I was the truest of true believers based on church/state separation.

The Dubs are likely proud that they are at the bottom (top?) on this issue; it is the perfect spin for the Dark Lords to reinforce that they are special, god's select, all washed and dressed in white outer garments while the rest of the world slides into Satan's immoral abyss. Now I'm nauseous.

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Bill Cosby - too much smoke for no fire?

by Simon in

it seems like the list of people who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault is growing every day.

i'm skeptical of single accusations but the number of people and the similar stories seem overwhelming now.. it's not a conviction but to the court of public opinion ... guilty?.

.

DJS

Update from today's news. Like many of you, Cos was one of my childhood idols. None of us knew that, for 4 decades, he was a monster. Nearly 30 women have officially come forward with nearly identical stories, and nearly 20 others have also stated that the Cos did likewise to them. You can read the story from today's headlines for details.

Bill Cosby admitted to getting drugs to give to women

By Holly Yan and Dana Ford, CNN, July 7, 2015

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Probable Discovery of Life on Comet Philae

by cofty in

according to leading astronomers the probe philae that landed on the comet 67p last november may have discovered microbial life..... sadly neither the probe nor the orbiter rosetta are equipped to test directly but the evidence is interesting.

these are not easily explained in terms of prebiotic chemistry.

the dark material is being constantly replenished as it is boiled off by heat from the sun.

DJS

Let's see,

An icy, very dark surface with an endless supply of dark material located deep inside, being boiled off, spewing out material at a fairly prolific rate through several cracks.

It's my ex-wife. Yes, definitely. It's her.

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Please vaccinate your children

by Viviane in

and remember your boosters as adults!.

currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.

vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.

DJS

Thanks enigma, that was worth resurrecting this thread. Why does it seem that so many ex-Dubs are drawn to conspiracy theories and issues such as the anti-vaxxers (rhetorical question)? As Simon noted 5 months ago, those who have discovered, developed, evaluated and researched vaccines have decades of experience in the field, advanced degrees in the field of study and want the same thing we all want. They arent' sinister people who are trying to harm others.

OTOH, the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are typically individuals with a high school education and no specific knowledge or experience in the areas they criticize. And their mothers' internet accounts.

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Captive virgins, polygamy and sex slaves: What marriage would look like if we actually followed the Bible

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

a friend linked this on his facebook page, sharing:http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/captive-virgins-polygamy-and-sex-slaves-what-marriage-would-look-like-if-we-actually-followed-the-bible/one quote that stood out for me:"granted, sometimes even decent people do get sucked into a sort of text worship that i call bibliolatry, and bible worship can make a persons moral priorities as archaic and cruel as those of the iron age tribesmen who wrote the texts.

(i once listened, horrified, while a sweet, elderly pair of jehovahs witnesses rationalized the old testament slaughter of children with the same words nazis used to justify the slaughter of jewish babies.

)"

DJS

But many who call themselves Bible believers are simply, congenitally conservative – meaning change-resistant. What really concerns them is protecting the status quo, an ancient hierarchy with privileged majority-culture straight males at the top, which they justify by invoking ancient texts.

JK, I could have written that. Actually I did (not that one but one just like it). Thanks.

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

DJS

GreatTeacher,

Well stated. However, with most things it isn't really necessary to make up our minds quickly. Things are complicated, and the more we study and research the better we understand. The 'evidence' is always going to be the best empirical data available at the moment. Once that changes based on more and better studies and understanding, intelligent people with rational personalities are much more likely to shed the old and embrace the new.

Religious people and those inclined to make decisions based on feelings and emotions, OTOH, have their tiny little furry feet deeply and firmly stuck in concrete. Regardless of any new evidence, they aren't changing.

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

DJS

Morpheus,

A few years ago I taught an ethics class at one of our local colleges. One of the tools I used to get the students to think was the 5 step ladder I have mentioned on this site. If the lurkers and posters would change from making decisions based on feelings, what they think, what little experience or anecdotal data and the one dimensional, confirmationally biased 'knowledge' they have obtained and strive to acquire a 360 knowledge and understanding of the world we live in and REQUIRE evidence before committing or making decisions, they would improve their lives.

Too many close their minds once they develop strong feelings about an issue, and they won't let the facts or the evidence change their minds. The only things they consider confirm their biases. Take Perry, for example. He routinely goes out and finds what he thinks is evidence to support his hate filled, right wing, jesus loving views. It is extremely unlikely that he ever researches counter augments. The problems with that are obvious, not to mention that he is preaching to people who have already considered his arguments and that data, and we have rejected it.

DJS

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Bill Cosby admitted to getting drugs to give to women

By Holly Yan and Dana Ford, CNN, July 7, 2015