Not surprising really. A heavily fundie state during an election period where right wing fundie pols are manipulating this for every vote.
The poltical pressure had to be enormous.
It will be interesting theatre. Popcorn bin is full.
scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
Not surprising really. A heavily fundie state during an election period where right wing fundie pols are manipulating this for every vote.
The poltical pressure had to be enormous.
It will be interesting theatre. Popcorn bin is full.
humanity is like a ship, and holes are our hobbies (lust, greed etc.
which are fondly renamed as each one likes) which always have been outperforming what science could accomplish!
most of the greater or significant scientific achievements started from 19th centurymay be with the commercial transmission of electricity!
Icon,
As everyone knows, the haters receive most of my ire on this site, closely followed by the conspiracy theorists and those coming onto this site presenting themselves as the new Governing Body, the sage and visionary that we all should pay attention to because you have understanding not available to all of those before you. And clearly a direct conduit to the big girl in the sky.
At least Perry is humble enough to copy and paste others' views.
It's bad enough that you come onto this site serving up the same pile of steaming woo with just a few different ingredients. The really, really vile part is that you speak as the visionary and the all knowing one.
humanity is like a ship, and holes are our hobbies (lust, greed etc.
which are fondly renamed as each one likes) which always have been outperforming what science could accomplish!
most of the greater or significant scientific achievements started from 19th centurymay be with the commercial transmission of electricity!
Icon,
When it comes to taking data and forcing it into one's cognitive biases you have the gold standard:
"Einstein indirectly admitted that only an agency superior to humans can solve our problems: "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.”
Einstein was correct; humans must evolve and change their awareness of their surroundings in order to fix what is broken. We say that all of the time on this site. For example, the on-going battles to get people like you to stop hating gays and develop more consciousness about them is one very good way in which we can improve our species' collective consciousness and thereby improve our species.
Einstein wasn't inferring or stating that the change in consciousness had to come from aliens or gods. He was an atheist.
Geesh, Icon. WTF is wrong with you.
humanity is like a ship, and holes are our hobbies (lust, greed etc.
which are fondly renamed as each one likes) which always have been outperforming what science could accomplish!
most of the greater or significant scientific achievements started from 19th centurymay be with the commercial transmission of electricity!
Icon,
WTF are you trying to say with this statement? See what unrestrained lust has done. In 1927 world population was just two billion, and it increased to seven billion in 2012 (in less than a century), thus most of the good contributions of Science exist as though they were never invented.
Most of the population 'explosion' is due to several generations of humans living MUCH longer lives than they did for the 100,000 years before the 20th Century and the improved sanitation conditions brought about by treating water and wastewater and the advancements in medical care, health and the availability of calories. In other words, fewer people were dying of such things as cholera, the plague, typhoid, TB and starvation at birth, during infancy and in early adulthood.
The average lifespan for humans, for 100,000 years, was between 24-34. Average lifespans now are in the upper 70s and 80s, unless you are a male in Russia.
As been pointed out by scientists, this one time 'explosion' will level out until, by the next century, we will likely see a leveling off of the population. The majority of those generations would have died by the time they were in their 30s or 40s had it not been for these advancements.
Lust had nothing to do with it, other than the opposite sex, when they aren't afflicted by cholera, typhoid, starvation, etc. is likely much more attractive and much more capable of procreating.
Do you have any idea what you are talking about, EVER?
if this has been posted before - sorry.... the comment that they were dubs comes in the 8th paragraph down.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/dallas-county/2015/09/06/four-women-die-dallas-crash/71808290/.
a tragedy , j w's or not ........
scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
Fish,
"Wanted" her to get an orange jumpsuit? Actually, I understand the results of her actions in legal cases such as these. If I hadn't 'wanted' her to get an orange jumpsuit my OP would have read the same. It was a foregone conclusion. Unlike you and the fundies on this site, I use empirical and expert sources for my data rather than fundie websites. And I utilize a rational, un-emotional analytical approach to issues such as these, rather than an irrational, emotional based reaction. You, Z, and the others might try that. Notice who I quoted - the Governor of KY, a constitutional scholar at UL (Do you have any idea the education and experience required to be called a constitutional expert???) and what I referenced - the SCOTUS and the appeals courts.
I would prefer, by a large margin, for her to change her heart. How easy it would have been for her to respond like this: "Although I recently became an x-tian and I do not believe that gay marriage is approved by the bible and the god I serve, based on the oath I took, the US Constitution as interpreted by the SCOTUS, and the fact that I believe my god and savior showed me underserved kindness and grace after making many mistakes in my life, I will show the same grace to those whose lifestyles I disagree with. I will sign the marriage certificates.
Praise be to my lord and savior jesus christ."
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?
scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
Rat,
I've tried to ignore your lame-ality, but you just keep posting: "One reason that I support her is that gays came down from Ohio to that county just to cause trouble. If they just cared about their marriage, just go to a state that allows SS unions."
First, KY allows SS unions -they are called MARRIAGES just to make sure you understand the difference - just not Ms. Davis and a couple of other clerks who, if they continue violating the SCOTUS' interpretation of the Constitution, will join Ms. Davis soon in orange jumpsuits. And Rat, gay marriage is now the law of the land; there will continue to be those fighting it, just as there were those fighting it, including entire states and school districts, when many of the civil rights laws were passed. How did that work out for them??? They are long dead, thankfully, or have finally complied or at least STFU. Just as those haters and opposers will in time.
Second, x-tians also came down from Ohio to that county just to cause trouble. These same x-tians from the North have stood outside and harassed the gay couples seeking licenses. But you are clearly OK with that, right?
It seems so easy for you to label the gay supporters from Ohio as trouble makers but see the x-tian supporters of Ms. Davis as supporters. Hypocrite. You've added nothing to this other than a lame view from an Old White Male Perspective with a feigned attempt at Libertarian tolerance, but your prejudice is oozing out from between the lines.
But I'm glad this OP continues; if we had any doubt about the mental acuity and religion based backwardness of some of our members before this OP, we don't have such doubts anymore.
i know this is a bit off the topic of religion, but i just got back from seeing ant man with my son.
i'm getting tired of the fact that hollywood (and in this case the action/hero genre) rarely seems to have an original thought.
has anybody noticed the same theme?.
jws,
Your are accurate, and expect more of the same. Based on what I have read, right now it appears that foreign markets are paying the profits for Hollywood movies. And foreign markets, based on what I understand, prefer action movies and sequels even more than US audiences, especially it seems the Marvel and other comic heroes.
Unless and until that business design changes, Spider Man IX and Iron Man XXX are in the plans. And they won't change the plots, etc. much lest the masses revolt.
scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
Fish,
Yeah I'm with you. That Rosa Parks woman should have kept quiet and found a different form of transportation. Demanding that she ride THAT bus in THAT city in a DIGNIFIED manner!! Those uppity blacks. Look what she caused, civil rights for everybody, including x-tians.
They should not have to go anywhere to get a license other than the county in which they live. WTF is wrong with you and your kind? I've read this nonsense on x-tian fundie websites. The only person wrong in this matter was Ms. Davis.
If having more than one wife/husband is made legal at some time in the future, why would you care? Once again, that is a religious issue, not a secular one. And why do you and those like you continue to link gay marriage with other issues un-related?
WTF is wrong with you?
scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
True Blood has The best opening song/video EVER - "I want to do bad things to you."
No, really. I do.