Great OP,
I hated this sick practice. Non dubs having to listen to this self aggrandizing marketing pitch in lieu of a respectful and dignified remembrance and celebration of the deceased's life always left disgusted.
this is truly terrible.
i just love the statement "instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.
" in other words, utterly disregard the deceased.
Great OP,
I hated this sick practice. Non dubs having to listen to this self aggrandizing marketing pitch in lieu of a respectful and dignified remembrance and celebration of the deceased's life always left disgusted.
now after 21 years in professional psychology/humanities, i love talking to brothers that adopt a slow pace in speech, and low tone of voice when they deal with the rank and cold un-associated ones.
my mirroring their present state in personality seems to psych them out for a bit.
i then tap into my fast injection of logical sense, that throws them off.
AE,
Funny insightful OP. Only an ex Dub would get this. Well done and spot on accurate.
scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
JG,
"Go Kim Davis!" When you go there to give her a big ole hug, just make sure you are wearing something that goes with orange.
while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.
but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.
five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.
JG,
Yeah, I believed all of that once. A long time ago. In a galaxy far, far away. I hate that person and what he believed. JG, by all means continue to believe what you believe and be on what you think is the 'right' side of god. Please. Continue. But your beliefs haven't one single thing to do with the US Constitution and the utilitarian, for the common good protections therein.
They protect everyone, whether they believe in your god or not. You and your kind would force your beliefs down the throats of the rest of us. Marriage is a secular entity; it is a governmental interest as was pointed out on the "Orange" OP. Free and fair commerce is also a governmental interest, and they have consistently ruled that you x-tian haters can't use your religion to refuse service to gays or blacks or anyone else your hate filled god and his hate filled followers want to hate.
while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.
but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.
five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.
JG and Rat,
Your whining is tedious and unflattering. You lost. Get over it. You are on the wrong side of history on this topic - not to mention that your kind, with each passing month and year, becomes more of a minority in this country and the other W. democracies, until, one day in the not too distant future, your kind will pass. You are dead men walking.
Perhaps this is just the last few gasps of agonal respiration. Let's hope.
while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.
but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.
five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.
JG,
If any of the other justices had ever been involved with a hetero marriage, that would have had as much to do with their ability to rule objectively as the two justices you mention. That is a false argument. A red herring. But one mentioned routinely on the R Wing Fundie sites and by their leaders.
while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.
but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.
five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.
SS,
Great video. I've been to West Point Military Academy several times. I've not met this gentlemen, but I have a close friend who is a counselor there, and one of their Lts. helped me with putting together an Intelligence Analysis course I taught a few years ago. "States' Rights,' when used by the Rush ditto heads, is a cover for hate.
OC,
Great post. The US Constitution was a visionary document put together by men who understood that majority rules have their place in a democracy and should be honored and protected. They also understood the rights of the individual - and those in the minority - when they crafted both our government, how the votes are tallied for the POTUS and especially the Constitution. It was and is a utilitarian, for the common good of all document.
Clearly, the R Wing and x-tian Fundies do not have a clue how the Constitution works.
while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.
but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.
five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.
SS,
Ditto. I've noticed over the past few years that a lot of R wing Fundie types are using the constitutional/states' rights argument. It isn't that the states' rights argument isn't valid at times, but when it comes to issues that are for the common good, that are utilitarian in nature, the Constitution is the final arbiter.
Imperfect humans interpret that document; they haven't always gotten it right, but thankfully, over time, the SCOTUS fixes their mistakes and gets it right. They got it right this time.
The Fundie types often use the states' rights argument to re-write history. Recently I heard a close friend of mine (a x-tian R wing fundie, yes I have friends of all stripes) state that the Civil War wasn't about slavery - it was about states' rights. That's nothing but a parroting of the Grand Poobas of hate, such as Rush. There are so many historical documents from the old S that show clearly the Civil War was about slavery. States' rights were a secondary issue, and Fundies try to use it now to justify hate.
That's serving as the backdrop for Rat's rant. The x-tian Fundies hate is clear (god hates fangs and sodomy); the politico fundies try to put a more pleasant looking bow on their package of hate. State rights is that bow.
hello friends!today is a sad day for me, as seven months have gone by since my mother passed away after a decades-long fight with breast cancer..
because the witnessing/preaching/teaching work doesn't make any sense to me anymore; because it's not about any "truth"; and because it's basically useless, i've decided to quit doing it.
instead, i've decided to do something that actually can make a real difference in other people's lives.
Ms. Eden,
I am very proud of you. I volunteered quite a bit after exiting the cult 2 decades ago; it was very rewarding. Thank you for sharing; your presence on this site, along with Mr. Eden, is uplifting to all of us.
while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.
but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.
five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.
JG,
Some may have cried as you state, but the majority of gays and those supporting their cause understood that the ruling could go either way (just like the perfect GF). As jws points out, they were in it for the long run and would have re-directed their efforts to the individual states.
Our federal and state governments confer enormous economic and social privileges to married couples. Prohibiting same sex couples from being legally identified kept them from such privileges and benefits, even though many gay and lesbian couples have been together for many, many years.
And you two haters are OK with that. You two are on the losing side of history. Your kind did the same thing in the civil rights' era. Now they are dead or have STFU. Just as you will.
Now stop whining.