Stuck,
Alarmageddon!!! Way!!! I wish I had thought of that. As far as the Zombie Apocalypse, I believe it has already started.
Posts by DJS
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by stuckinarut2 in" alarmageddon " .
this term came to mind as i thought of just how weird it is that witnesses actually look forward to seeing billions of people killed..... also, at how strange it is that the org has repeatedly tried to work out the date or time for it to happen.
(although they will deny doing this ...but the old publications and talks etc are there on record!
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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?
by LaurenM indo any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
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DJS
Cap,
Try violating the law of gravity. Hint: you can't!
Yes you can. They are called boob jobs.
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It must be a concern of all the information that is now been leaked
by joe134cd ini have put up previous posts about this in the past, but i just thought that it was worth mentioning again.
it has to be of concern to them with how quickly information is getting leaked.
hell it even surprises at just how slowly information spreads by offical means.
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DJS
OneEyedJoe's comments about Apple ring true. I've done a lot of work related to the semi-conductor industry. They typically have the highest level of security in the for profit industries. And interestingly, most of the security is not designed to mitigate external threats; it is designed to mitigate internal threats and the loss of intellectual capital, etc. from walking, emailing, texting, faxing, etc. out the door.
This makes sense for these industries, as the trade secrets, etc. are their profit centers. You won't find this level of internal operational and physical security at many for profit places, and those with higher levels of security are almost always mitigating external threats. I could bore you with all of the internal process changes that the Dark Lords would need to implement to mitigate leaks, but suffice it to say that they would be enormous.
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It must be a concern of all the information that is now been leaked
by joe134cd ini have put up previous posts about this in the past, but i just thought that it was worth mentioning again.
it has to be of concern to them with how quickly information is getting leaked.
hell it even surprises at just how slowly information spreads by offical means.
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DJS
"I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to release letters that were not true but in a rue to catch bethelites or elders who leak out..."
This is always a possibility, but as I've mentioned before, denial/deception and other intelligence/counter-intelligence issues, especially at the large, multi-national corporate level, are very complicated things to develop, implement and manage effectively.
These types of 'games' if you will often require separate dedicated departments, and they are almost always the most secretive and highly controlled departments. To accomplish this effectively, the Dark Lords would have to expend a lot of resources and have contingency plans for unintended consequences, denial, spin masters, etc.
So many on this site routinely point out that the Dark Lords aren't bright enough to get in out of the rain; it is highly implausible that they are bright enough to effectively develop and manage such a highly complex process.
If they are stupid enough to try this, then that means the mean old apostates have a hook in their mouths. And that would be most excellent.
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Why are GMO's bad?
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh4bi60alzu.
first person to say, "this scishow episode is a monsanto conspiracy," is a rotten egg..
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Talesin,
Bio-diversity is certainly a concern; however, there were biodiversity concerns long before GMOs. A few decades ago agricultural geneticists were very concerned that we were losing diversity with potatoes and bananas. McDonalds was blamed for the potatoes - you know, the large, perfect Russet potatoes that make perfect french fries. Apparently due to McDonalds vertical market design and contractual arrangements with farmers, along with consumer demand, this one potato soon became the dominant potation in exclusion of many other varieties. In part due to push back and in part due to market opportunities, the potato issue was resolved by the capitalistic supply and demand marketplace. I'm not sure where the banana issue is right now, but it was based on the perfect banana we all love, as it had become not just the top banana but damn nearly the only banana. Someone can google it and find out.
The pushback we see amongst consumers (the anti-GMO nut jobs are doing us a favor) is leading to diversity on its own, as savvy capitalists and those who believe in diversity and sustainability are seizing the opportunities. That is a good thing.
To put this into perspective, there currently are only 8 GMO crops commercially available (field and sweet corn, soybeans, cotton, canola, sugar beets, papaya, squash and alfalfa). There are 2 more genetically modified crops (apples and potatoes) that have been approved, but aren’t in grocery stores yet.
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Why are GMO's bad?
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh4bi60alzu.
first person to say, "this scishow episode is a monsanto conspiracy," is a rotten egg..
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LisaRose,
That has been one of the issues. However, Monsanto is doing what every trade or industry has done for thousands of years. The cult around the Masons and other groups came into existence because these trade, craft and guild groups took sometimes extraordinary means to protect their trade secrets. This data ensured their success, it differentiated them from competitors, it put food on their tables and gave them a better life. Whether it was how to make the perfect mortar, build the perfect arch or tan and cure the perfect leather, these groups protected this information in a cult-like manner.
What Monsanto is doing is what all egoist corporations do. Thankfully, Monsanto's efforts to control these markets as they wish is failing and will fail. Monsanto spent hundreds of millions of dollars to get the first GMO to market; to expect them to give up the technology freely, without a fight, and not protect it is naive. They are modern day Masons.
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Why are GMO's bad?
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh4bi60alzu.
first person to say, "this scishow episode is a monsanto conspiracy," is a rotten egg..
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DJS
Star Trek,
Corporations are by nature egoist, which means they act based on selfish desires. This isn't a bad thing. Governments are utilitarian, acting on the principle of the common good for all. Corporations today do the right thing for a variety of reasons, such as acting on their corporate ethics, avoiding lawsuits or damaging image or brand and complying with governmental regulations.
None of us should ever think that corporations will do the right thing on their own. That is naive and ridiculous thinking. Of course corporations try to game the system; VW is a perfect example. Of course GMOs should be heavily regulated with a systematic approval process. And they are. I don't trust Monsanto, VW or any other for profit corporation any farther than I can throw them. That is not what this discussion is about.
If any of you had asked me 10, or even 5, years ago about GMOs, my response would have been much different. I did not think, until recently, that there was sufficient independent confirmation about GMOs. That is no longer the case. The disinformation regarding GMOs, just as with vaccines and the moon landing, is enormous. It should be criminal. It feeds the conspiracy theorists and the hysterical reactionaries, as if they needed anything. They stopped at "Feelings," and any thinking or knowledge they acquire is designed to confirm their bias.
I kept an open mind about GMOs for many years, refusing to take any stand. I am an empiricist. The data is in; it is irrefutable. But that doesn't mean that GMOs shouldn't continue to receive great scrutiny and be put through a rigorous approval process. They should.
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Why are GMO's bad?
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh4bi60alzu.
first person to say, "this scishow episode is a monsanto conspiracy," is a rotten egg..
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DJS
I included the url for the Forbes article in the other OP, and it is a certainty that the brain dead theorists and the hysterical housewives did not read it. This post is for the lurkers and anyone else who has any doubts about both GMOs and the danger of the conspiracy theorist hive. The primary points made in that article are:
"Writing in the Journal of Animal Science, in the most comprehensive study of GMOs and food ever conducted, University of California-Davis Department of Animal Science geneticist Alison Van Eenennaam and research assistant Amy E. Young reviewed 29 years of livestock productivity and health data from both before and after the introduction of genetically engineered animal feed. The field data represented more than 100 billion animals covering a period before 1996 when animal feed was 100% non-GMO, and after its introduction when it jumped to 90% and more. The documentation included the records of animals examined pre and post mortem, as ill cattle cannot be approved for meat.
What did they find? That GM feed is safe and nutritionally equivalent to non-GMO feed. There was no indication of any unusual trends in the health of animals since 1996 when GMO crops were first harvested. Considering the size of the dataset, it can reasonably be said that the debate over the impact of GE feed on animal health is closed: there is zero extraordinary impact. The Van Eenennaam study corresponds to other reviews of animal feeding data, many of them independent and some multi-generational. Studies have been conducted with a variety of food-producing animals including sheep, goats, pigs, chickens, quail, cattle, water buffalo, rabbits and fish fed different GE crop varieties. The results have consistently revealed that the performance and health of GE-fed animals were comparable with those fed near isogenic non-GE lines and commercial varieties."
I tried to find the Journal of Animal Science article online, but it seemed that I would have to create a username and pay for it. But I found Dr. Eenennaam's email during the search. I had an email conversation with her yesterday regarding her research and findings with GMOs. This is what she said:"Dear XXXXX,The science consensus around GM safety can be seen at the following sitesIt is not that I “believe” that GMOs, at least those introduced to the marketplace and included in my research, are as safe as non-genetically modified food - it is what the data say. And that is why the scientific societies support the consensus of data.Hope that helps - sometimes it is not about the science and no amount of data can convince people.Sincerely,Alison Van Eenennaam, PhD"In addition to the international science organizations, there are scientists at several other US universities, as I have stated before, that have conducted and are conducting extensive independent research on GMOs. They have ALL arrived at the same findings and conclusions as Dr. Eenennaam: that GMOs are as safe and nutritious as non-GMOs, based on the products released to commercial markets to date. I will contact the U of GA next. It won't make any difference to the conspiracy theorist nut jobs, but I will keep it on file for the next time the theorist rats leave their infested holes to spread their dreaded infection. And after that I will contact the U of FL and speak with them.
The AAEM is a nut job conspiracy theorist "organization" that is also anti-vaccination. The AAEM has ZERO credibility in the scientific community. -
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Right everyone watch this video its insane!
by username ini'm just watching this video.
now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.
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username,
Fair enough.
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Right everyone watch this video its insane!
by username ini'm just watching this video.
now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.
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DJS
God, independent science has found no problems with HMOs, only quack science, all of which has been debunked.
Independent researchers from at least 3 US universities have studied and are studying GMOs in depth and have found no problems with them. You might want to read the Forbes article or review the U of GA website.
