Posts by DJS

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New Video - Old News - Shooting of JW during machete attack at New Orleans airport was justified

by darkspilver in

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a newly released video shows shocking footage of a new orleans man charging at tsa officials with a machete.. the video, taken march 20, 2015, shows a man later identified as richard white running through a new orleans airport terminal waving the large knife while spraying wasp spray at various people.. jefferson parish sheriff’s lt. heather sylve ultimately shot him in the thigh and he died of his injuries after refusing medical treatment, reportedly because it went against his beliefs as a jehovah’s witness.. http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/crime_police/article_8d680284-9bb4-11e6-9cf1-cb15d005609c.html.

previously discussed here:.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/184150001/richard-white-machette-attacker-new-orleans-airport-jw-dies-another-medicine-denier.

DJS

Subtitled as:

Culling the DNA herd.

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RUSSIA: Many meetings raided and evidence planted

by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

raids on jehovah's witness premises now take place more than three times per month.

these raids on doctrinally pacifist* religious communities often involve many heavily armed and camouflaged officials, with the "discovery" of apparently planted banned "extremist" literature.

legal dissolution of communities can follow.. http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2228.

DJS

The following practices/teachings have been or still are part of various religions around the world:

Child sacrifice. Human sacrifice. Stoning adulterers. Burning witches. Public stockades to punish heresy. Forced female genital mutilation. Forced subjugation of 50% of the population (females) that includes: not being able to vote, drive, own property, go to secondary school or even get an education. own a business, etc.. Forced marriage/sex between men and under-age girls (yes I'm talking about you Mohammed. You too Warren Jeffs). Forced sexual relations between men and underage boys (I'm talking about you Afghan warlord. And a large portion of Islam). Banning certain types of food with punishment if the rule is violated. Honor killings. Gang raping a 16 year old girl, guilty of nothing, because her 20 year old brother offended Mohammed.

Forced segregation of races, including not serving people of a different race when they come to a commercial, for profit, government supported entity.Forbidding whites and blacks to marry and using the bible or other religious book as the reason. Forbidding gays to marry and refusing to serve those in the LGBT community because of religious reasons.

And yet the world - or at least the civilized world - has enacted and enforced laws against all of the above. Except for Islam of course. But there is hope, even for them. I read recently that Pakistan kinda sorta maybe thought it could be a really good idea of people quit killing their significant others or relatives (isn't it strange how all of those killed are females and all of those killing are males?) and that honor killings should maybe end and that there just might need to be a law and enforcement of that law.

Everyone of these practices were or still are claimed by the religious/religion as being part of their special rights as humans to worship their god or gods in whatever manner they desire.

Is there anyone on this site that will support ANY of the above practices or teachings that includes NOT having a law against them? Anyone? Any of you Libertarians? Ms. Rand? Paul Rand? Rand Paul? Ron Rand? Rand Ron? Rand Rand?

So there is no such thing as universal human freedom. All freedom has limits. Governments set those limits; somtimes they get it right the first time out of the gate. Sometimes they dont. And sometimes they wait too long due to religious pressure. We evolve and learn and grow as a species, but the planet is a more accepting, tolerant place than it has ever been. Good laws and enforcement of those laws is one of the key components. The religious people in Russia still have a right to believe whatever they want to believe; they just can't practice SOME things or teach SOME things that the Russian law precludes

How about you Jesus lovin' theists?? Is there ANYTHING in the above list that you think you should have the right to practice above the law of the land?

Your Ayn Rand speciousness comes across just like every Libertarian presidential candidate ever and ever to come. Naive. Uneducated. Simple. Immature. Bum Fuck Kentuck might elect you, but once the nation sees how childish your views you will get your collective asses kicked. But I do see where Gary Johnson has about 7% of the vote (can you believe this guy? I mean really, he was the governor of a state? Really? I mean fucking really?).

So if you draw the line at the above, let's all just have a communal moment where we agree that religious beliefs and practices have limits and it has and will be appropriate for government entities to place legal limits on those beliefs and practices. And thank god the SCOTUS has quieted the gay haters; otherwise, some of the above would start a new war. You lost, bigots, haters, wannabes. Stay quiet. Stay. Good puppy.

You see class, governments would love for all of us to have a Rodney King mentality where we all just get along. Or a John Lennon imagination. It's the same with your HR dept. But since we cannot seem, as a species to get along, laws are necessary. A government may not be able to change your heart, but they can damned well change your behavior. History has shown when governments rule in a just and fair manner by enacting and enforcing much needed laws to protect us FROM religion, that society sooner rather than later catches up to those laws with their attitudes and behaviors.

As I've pointed out before (and really, class, you heard it here fist - you are welcome), the Russian anti extremist law is pure gold, as it is the ONLY legislation enacted after the events of Sep. 11, 2001 that seeks to address the problem of religious extremism at its root cause. Hundreds of governments enacted post 9/11 laws designed to give governments more tactical powers to combat extremism. Russian laws were the only ones that addressed this issue from a strategic view.

Vlad and his Impalers determined that the root cause of religious extremism is based on god is with me and not thee and furthermore god told me to kill thee or convert thee. And they are right.

The law is brilliant, and the courts have been fair minded and patient. The draconian KGBish behavior of Vlad's goons, although not surprising, is sad but in the final analysis has nothing to do with the law. They are separate issues.

Russia is full of Muslims, Xtains and others who remain free to practice their religions; they just can't preach jihad, fatwas have to fall under the laws regulations, they can't preach that god is going to destroy thee but not me, they can't restrict such things as proper medical care/blood transfusion, and they can't destroy families.

And Saername, the shunning issue was one of the issues brought against the DarkLords in one of the recent, compelling case against it.

Just say thank you DJS.

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RUSSIA: Many meetings raided and evidence planted

by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

raids on jehovah's witness premises now take place more than three times per month.

these raids on doctrinally pacifist* religious communities often involve many heavily armed and camouflaged officials, with the "discovery" of apparently planted banned "extremist" literature.

legal dissolution of communities can follow.. http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2228.

DJS

We have the same conversations about this topic each time it is posed. The law is now 14 years old. The dubs continue to be free to practice their stupid religion. The courts have been patient with them, overturning several judgments against them and ruling in their favor on numerous occasions. Russia's democracy isn't perfect; name one that is.

Singing "Imagine" and group hugging while being shocked and aghast that Vlad and his Impalers are being . .. all Vladish and Impalish is about the most childish thing that can be posted on this OP. I prefer reality. Russia being Russian and Vlad being Vlad-ian is not new nor news.

But I'm certain that someone will top it. It's early in the OP and there are a lot of hysterical reactionaries here.

The laws are getting more strict, and the courts are losing patience. All the dubs have to do to comply with the laws, which IMHO are very good laws, is to remove all references to the superiority of their religion over all others in their literature and teachings, such as Armageddon where all other religions and governments are destroyed, and practices and teachings such as prohibiting blood transfusions, shunning members and destroying families, to name a few that the Russian law finds objectionable and illegal.

Had the DarkLords complied in 2002 we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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RUSSIA: Many meetings raided and evidence planted

by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

raids on jehovah's witness premises now take place more than three times per month.

these raids on doctrinally pacifist* religious communities often involve many heavily armed and camouflaged officials, with the "discovery" of apparently planted banned "extremist" literature.

legal dissolution of communities can follow.. http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2228.

DJS

Every proselytizing religion closely monitors the laws and social conditions of countries where they desire to spread their infection, I mean teachings. The DarkTower is no different, and it is a certainty that they have had dedicated resources and intense discussions about these issues for decades.

Having said that, the DarkLords were without a doubt keenly aware that Russia enacted its extremism law in 2002, just months after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the US. Two of the law's provisions defined religious extremism as promoting the "exclusivity, superiority, or lack of equal worth of an individual" and "incitement of religious discord" in connection with acts or threats of violence.

Officials began to interpret the first provision as promoting the superiority of a belief, and in 2007, Russia amended the law to allow prosecution for inciting religious discord even in the absence of any threat or act of violence.

Again, the DarkLords clearly understood these laws and their interpretations.

Since every group believes its own dogma to be in some sense superior, any group could face an extremism charge. And since inciting "religious discord" is no longer linked to advocating or perpetrating violence, those advocating religious views face potential criminal charges of incitement. Other religious groups wishing to practice openly in Russia either don’t have these teachings as part of their religious dogma or they have removed them from materials distributed and teachings preached openly in Russia. In other words, they complied with the law.

The DarkTower is NOT the only religion that has felt the effects of these laws. Islam (one Russian court even banned the Koran, but it was overturned on appeal), Mormons and others have come under scrutiny and felt the pressures of these laws. But the DarkLords are the ONLY religion that refused to remove the illegal references from their written materials and teachings until they had seriously pissed off Vlad and his Impalers. I am not including Scientology in this.

Bad things happen when you tug on Vlad's cape.

None of us should be shocked that Russia is being Russia. The DarkLords knew this as well. Using draconian practices to make their case, if true, should not surprise us, and IT SHOULD NOT HAVE SURPRISED THE DARK LORDS. Aren’t they supposed to be faithful and ‘discreet’ or ‘wise?’

The DarkLords’ arrogance is the cause of this, and they were willing to martyr their own sheep to prove their point. Stephanie (above) hit the nail on the head as to the very good reasons Russia has enacted and enforces these laws.

They deserve none of our sympathy.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

DJS

Vidiot,

Dude, Seriously.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

DJS

Witness,

I've thought PE has been telling only half the story for a while. I never responded to any of his numerous Nancy Kerrigan whining "Whyyyyyyyyy' OPs previously, because I thought he needs to grow up and accept the situation for what it is.

But this site seeks to infantalize posters and marinade them in victimization.

I don't doubt PE is hurting, but there are a lot of immature, selfish actions and reactions in his words and stated behavior.

I think he is leaving out some key facts. And he needs to start looking at the man in the mirror for much of the reason he is where he is.

If he doesnt he will continue to find himself in similar situations.

You are welcome, enablers, mollycoddlers, victim marinaders and placaters.

You need me on that wall.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

DJS

Ditto to neverajw.

Proven to be unreliable is an understatement. If what Pale tells us is true, she has sold him for pieces of silver, plunged the dagger into his back, thrown him under the bus and rolled over on him faster than a 5$ hooker.

Pale, based on what I read and my experiences, seems to be a man who needs a woman in his life or else he can't function/behave/bathe. I know so many men who went from mommy to wifey to divorce to an immediate replacement. And so on and so on.

Sometimes it works out; sometimes they've simply replaced the devil they knew for the devil they wish they had never met.

These men typically hate being alone, don't like eating alone, don't want to cook or make a home a home, can't seem to have a social life without a female on their arm, and need the comfort and nurturing a female provides. So Pale you may have some issues for which you need some intense self reflection.

I find these men pathetic, really. But that's me. Pale, you may want to consider avoiding long term relationships with any human having a XX chromosome pattern for a while. Otherwise you may be the proverbial ball inside the pinball machine.

Don't get me wrong; earth girls are soft, warm and yummy. I highly recommend them. But they are also complicated pieces of machinery for which no man has or ever will be competent to understand. Go s-l-o-w-l-y is what I'm trying to say. And protect your heart, cause it has to be hurting like hell.

IMHO, OCD is telling you what you want to hear, and it seems to be working. Good luck Pale.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

DJS

Hearts,

You had me at hello. You lost me at it would be romantic . . .

Whaaaaat?

In my experiences, there are no Regarding Henrys, Epiphanies, or Roads to Demascus.

People don't change. As Ms Angelou once stated , when someone shows you who they are. .

believe them.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

DJS

Thanks Divergent. Spot on. That's the Genesis of my sarcasm above. Pardon me if I'm skeptical about Ms. OCD"s motives, but methinks there is more than a bit of manipulation with her.

Could she really be remorseful about betraying Pale so quickly and wickedly? Anything is possible, but the description of her 'remorse' as provided by Pale leaves a lot of doubt in my mind.

Bicch needs to be crawling through broken glass and fire, IMHO, with a sincere apology followed by actions, such as:

Leave the cult. And get some counseling for the OCD and black heart thingey.

Pale, I don't know if your current GF is a good thing or not, but every fiber in me says believing Judas", I mean Your ex, crocodile tears is a very, very bad move.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

DJS

Great news!!! However: "When i first dated her she used to have plastic over her furniture and took her own cutlery to peoples houses when we went for dinner etc."

Did it ever cross your mind that this was a clue?

Sorry, couldn't resist the obvious. Good luck Pale. I hope it works out for both of you. The mischief in me wants to suggest you say something like this to console her: "Me and you and she can come too." But I won't say that. That would be crass, if not bad timing.