will there be any industries, with people working midnight to eight?.
will money still exist?.
Where are all the children??
When I was a dub this was one of the more disturbing scenarios I had about the "New System." At some point, the world will be full of people, all righteous and happy, so there will be no need to reproduce, so there will be no more children. Imagine that, a world full of bland, happy brain-dead adults. Bleah, you can keep your New Order, Thank you.
CyrusThePersian
the thread re: did fossils make you doubt?
makes me laugh at the creationist because they have the same hurdle to over come as does the evolutionist do.
for the creationist can you tell me how god came from nothing?
Hi Leolaia!
Yes I do know that space-time as we know it had its beginning at the Big Bang. I was merely couching my thoughts in terms that most people (including me) will understand. The fact is no one, not even Dr. Hawking, will ever know what, if anything, happened "before" or in the first microseconds after the Big Bang. Was there a previous Big Crunch of some other universe (with its own space-time)? Was there nothing? We do know that the universe, of which space-time is an integral part, began at the Big Bang and we also know that mass-energy can neither be created or destroyed. All we have to do is reconcile the two...
CyrusThePersian
i want to try to reach my dad with this proof.
i have found pieces but would like to have everything in one neat location.
even if it's in previous posts it will help.. thanks..
Hi!
Step by Step:
Go to un.org
Click on the English word "Welcome"
Click on "About the United Nations"
Click on "NGO Section"
Click on "Relevant Documents and Events"
Click on "Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York"
...and there you are!
CyrusThePersian
the thread re: did fossils make you doubt?
makes me laugh at the creationist because they have the same hurdle to over come as does the evolutionist do.
for the creationist can you tell me how god came from nothing?
The problem is that if you interpret God in so loose a manner then he has no reason for being. In other words, if God is merely the mass- energy of the universe, why worship him? Why even acknowledge him? In fact, if you try to worship your mass-energy God, you are merely worshipping yourself, since you are mass-energy, as are your shoes, the bowl of oatmeal you had this morning and everything else in the universe.
On the other hand, the mass-energy that I perceive has no personality, it exists and conforms itself according to principles that can be observed and measured. No ultra-complex super-deity need apply.
CyrusThePersian
(i am not, never have been, a jw.
i am an apostate of the whore of babylon and have been awarded the title of honorary apostate here.).
i very recently posted about how i had come into contact with a poster on an entirely unrelated mb whose step-daughter (age about 12) was, i concluded, studying with jws along with her natural mum.
Hi Joe!
Show her this: (or print it out for her)
http://www.jwfiles.com/jw-cant.htm
It's a long, long list of things JW's can't do. It's a real eye-opener for the uninitiated.
CyrusThePersian
the thread re: did fossils make you doubt?
makes me laugh at the creationist because they have the same hurdle to over come as does the evolutionist do.
for the creationist can you tell me how god came from nothing?
By its very nature (i.e. that it can neither be created or destroyed) mass-energy didn't "come from" anything. In some form or another it has always been around. Stephen Hawking recently described a phenomenon known as vacuum fluctuation in which particle matter seems to come out of seemingly empty space. Hawking and the scientists working under him discovered that even in a perfect vacuum in which all traditionally understood forms of matter and energy are absent, random electromagnetic oscillations are still present. These vacuum fluctuations are a form of energy which can be converted into matter in complete harmony with mass-energy conversion laws. In other words, the nothingness of a complete vacuum in empty space can and does produce matter in accord with Einstein's laws.
My personal extrapolation is this: If mass-energy cannot be created or destroyed, then the universe, in one form or another, has always existed. There was never a time when the mass-energy of our universe did not exist, even if it was just in the form of an empty oscillating vacuum.
CyrusThePersian
the thread re: did fossils make you doubt?
makes me laugh at the creationist because they have the same hurdle to over come as does the evolutionist do.
for the creationist can you tell me how god came from nothing?
Hi!
Most scientists most certainly do not believe that the universe arose ex nihilo, or out of nothing. The law of the conservation of mass-energy forbids it. The law states that mass-energy can neither be created or destroyed, it can only be changed. Albert Einstein showed that mass and energy are in reality the same thing. In his famous formula E=MC 2 he showed that energy equals mass times the velocity of light squared. Therefore at the time of the Big Bang no mass-energy was created, it simply changed in some catastrophic way. The fact that we do not know, and can never know, how mass-energy manifested itself in the moments before or after the Big Bang does not mean that nothing at all existed before the Big Bang.
At least that's my two cents...
CyrusThePersian
sorry for the completely non-jw related topic, but.... my sony trinitron tv had a number of thin blue horizontal lines appear towards the top of the screen.
i did some research and these appear to be "fly back lines" caused by the retrace showing as the gun moves back up the screen.. rather than call an engineer, i decided to buy another tv on ebay.
get it home, plug it in and this one has exactly the same problem except red lines instead of blue.. i'm just wondering what are the chances of this happening???
Hi! Since the problem appears to be only at the top of the screen, it is unlikely to be an improperly set screen /bias control. The more likely problem would be a bad electrolytic capacitor in the vertical circuit, as alluded to by the Lone Ranger above. It should be a relatively inexpensive fix. Don't attempt it yourself, take it to a qualified service tech. CyrusThePersian P.S. The fact that you have two sets with the same problem isn't all that weird. This is a fairly common problem.
i've seen that question pop up here on jwd in one form or another over the past few years and it's always had me mentally juggling whether to indulge in chrisitanity (the bible), churches, agnosticism, new age crapola or atheism or some other form of religious hype.......before today.. for some reason, i've chosen just today to believe in myself.
i don't hide from myself i know what i'm capable of and how to do all of which i am capable and am willing to do.
i'm also dependable and if i don't have an answer for a question that i need the answer to, i do some research and find out the facts.
So if anyone here feels the need to ask, "Where will we/you go after WTS?"........my answer is gonna be a pat..."to myself, of course."
That sounds like something I told my daughter (a Regular Pioneer). She asked," Where will you go away to if you leave?" My reply: "I'm already there!"
Sounds reasonable, though for anyone pursuing that route I would have to ask: do you really know thyself?
Heck no! But getting to know about 'Life, the Universe and Everything,' as Douglas Adams would put it, is a lot more fun than chasing after the "unknowable" i.e. a tribal deity revamped, remodeled and remanufactured over the centuries to suit the needs of an ever changing culture.
CyrusThePersian
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hello all.... sat around the campfire this weekend and laughed our butts off coming up with jeff foxworthy type humor.
it was so funny we thought it would be fun to run a thread here... i'll start.... "if your only yearly vacation is a "trip" to the district convention...you might be a jw.".
...If you have a closet full of suits and ties but make a living as a janitor, you might be a JW!
