Posts by m0nk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Awwww heheh good for you Jade. People like you make me proud. *hugz*

Josh

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The Bible Code

by m0nk3y in

i was in a book store today and there were a couple of books entitled somthing like "the bible code" .

the idea goes that the bible is written a certain code that when decoded reveals prophcies about things like the twin towers and that kind of thing.

heres a few links to explain more.

m0nk3y

Actually you raised some rather obvious and extremely valid points badolputtytat

monk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

northern girl I feel sad for you. You said -

The wagons have circled. I give up but only because everyone of you are so close minded. Ravyn, I read your post ... youv'e had enough life time experiences for a few people.
Who would all of you have to blame for all your problems if it wasn't for the big bad WTBS. Don't you think it's time to shut the door on the past and move on. Really, there is more to life.

The reason I feel sad for you is that you cannot accept that my story isn't about my hatred of the WTBS. To be honest I don't know how you got that impression from my story. It comes down simply to me being brought up to believe with all of my heart that my god hated who I was, being taught that Jehovahs Witnesses are the most loving people and sadly most of them are not living by the reputation that they constantly profess. As far as I'm concerned when I express my anger about it I don't see the WTBS .. I see the people that failed me despite promising they wouldn't. I see the faces of those peoples that I grew up with turning their back on me in my greatest time of need.

I'm sorry you are the type of person that despite my pain and anguish that I have gone through to write this story and share it with others feels the need to tell me that I need a reality check when clearly it's you that doesnt understand reality. I am very sorry. Stop labeling people with ideas and comformistic impressions .. get to know each persons story and feelings .. at the heart of that lies understanding for you fellow man and within that lies your salvation.

Josh

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Thank you everyone, nearly all of your comments have been simply amazing. I thought I would have myself pulled together a little better than I was yesterday but clearly my story has taken more out of me the I first realised. It really is heat warming to positive comments from so many different walks of life, to share the same opinions and greif with people who arn't gay just shows how simalar and yet different we all are.

czarofmischeif -

To my pain and shame I used to be one those judgemental types - please forgive me, Josh, and all of you that I rejected because of their sexuality. I was raised the same way you were, the same patterns of thought, the same snap judgements, I just never had to deal with it beyond rejecting the occasional friend.

You don't need to seek mine or anybody elses forgiveness, being gay myself and acting towards my own type the same way as you before I came out I can absolutely relate. But thankyou for your words, because you are an inspiration. Thank You.

nilfun - I wasn't offended in the slightest by your comments, unfortunately as in any community some people go off the deep end and become highly self destructive .. to say it's disturbing to witness is an understatement as you will know. I thank you for your words

AlanF - I think you sum up alot of issues many of us have, some people find it difficult and annoying how upset people are with Jehovah's Witnesses thinking that we blame everything that is wrong in our lives on them. The fact of the matter is it's a system set up that isn't suppose to fail its people. We are told that Jehovah is there for us when he clearly isn't. We have artical after artical about brothers and sisters helping and reaching out with a caring heart to single parent families. But sadly, for all of it supposed goodness in entirity not alot of good comes from it.

You should not have put Northern Girl's private message out for public inspection without her permission. That's a gross violation of privacy and one of the greatest "sins" you can commit on the Net. You should have simply summarized her silly comments.

I would have "summarized" her silly comments had what she sent to me been longer but as it stood sending such a message to me only provoked a response from me. I wanted that to be put where she felt uncomfortable .. clearly she didnt want to be flamed for such a stupid and uncaring view so she posted it privately to me who was in a clearly fragile state. I see nothing wrong with exposing those seeds of hurtfulness.

Such facts strongly show that "Biblical morality" is not based on fact, but on a 4000-year-old culture that is irrelevant in today's world. Such Biblical morality teaches that women are mere items of property, which illustrates how out of touch it is.

Such facts strongly show that "Biblical morality" is not based on fact, but on a 4000-year-old culture that is irrelevant in today's world. Such Biblical morality teaches that women are mere items of property, which illustrates how out of touch it is.

I agree, the bible contradicts itself way to often. How can the idea that an angel being desired by men in sodom but such a bad thing and yet Lot offers his daughter to the people so the angel will be left alone ? Why would the angel need such protection ? Why is it ok to get ones father drunk with the idea of having sexual relations with him ok ? And yet so many lesser things are condemned. The man that reached out to stop the Ark of the Covernant from tipping being killed for his lack of trust in Jehovah has always been shocking and disgusting to me. We have all been there when something like that might happen .. somthing drops and without a thought you reach out and grab for it. Our friend was doing the dishes just recently and the electric mixer dropped into the water and she reached straight in to get it without thinking .. it was still plugged into the wall lucky for her the wall plug was switched off. But the idea is the same kind of thing. Actually I could go on all day how the bible condemns this and that and then later says its ok if your certain people. Anyways thank you for your supportive comments. *hugz*

Hamas -

I'm pleased you have found a good life, Monkey. You certainly deserve it, my friend. This story shows just how narrow minded those Witnesses really are; or how we all were at one stage. I know I certainly was.

That narrow mindedness I think we all shared Hamas .. thank you.

Thank you all!

Josh

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Your text was not bound by copyright northern girl .. and to be honest I was disgusted that after I bared my heart you were to Private Message me about how you think I need a reality check.

Grow a heart or a brain .. seriously!

monk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

I got this private message a little while ago and I thought it would be unfair not to add it to the thread.

Sent on 02-Jul-03 23:28 Jul 2, 2003
Sent By northern girl
Title Hi from northern girl
Message Don't take this personally but ANY true religion that follows bible principals cannot condone your lifestyle. Remember about false prophets tickling peoples ears at the time of the end? I think you sound like a very humane person who should really take a reality check ... northern girl ... (emailed you so I can't be considered a troll).

Northern Girl, you say I need a reality check ? Exactly where are you grounding that statement ? It would seem to me that you would be the one that needs a reality check. You ask me not to take what your saying personally and yet you are directing it towards my situation .. arn't you in fact asking me to do the impossible ? Even the fact that you didn't want to be seen as a troll brings yourself into alot of disrepute.

I'm not really going to censor the way I feel about people like you, I feel your a scared human being that hides behind religion to make your decisions .. not only that but you direct acidic language towards me and try to say with the other breath that I'm ok with you. Isn't that like saying "Northern Girl I really like you but on the other hand, I don't"

This was my story, I worded it as it happened to me and if you think that your TRUE religion is an excuse for the harsh and unloving way I was treated was godly and right then I feel sad for you. Because unlike me you are talking a blind language. You don't have the experience to base your knowledge on so instead you draw your knowledge from somthing sombody else said. Have you also read the scripture about the blind leading the blind ?

You also talk about "ANY true religion" .. exactly how many are there ? Isn't there only suppose to be one ? Perhaps my beliefs are the right beliefs and yours are just based on an old book that came from the middle east .. theres a great place to be diriving a loving attitude towards your fellow man.

I would prefer in the future that you keep your one dimensional comments to yourself and people like you. Because people like me have listened to that rubbish way to long and frankly don't want our time wasted with the dribble.

monk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Good story but do you think if your family was any other religion that they'd have treated you any different?

To the purpose of my life story it wouldn't matter what religion we were, the story is about what actually happened to me.

Jehovahs Witnesses are one of the most uptight religions out there, they have a problem with everything. And with most other religions, you are allowed to associated with other people beyond your religion. You are 100% isolated within the JW community.

monk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Thank you sister. OldCrow Gay Pride is always fantastic here as well.

I'm not sure what Pride is like there but here we devote and entire month to it. It starts with Pride Fair Day which includes gay people and trangender as well as our families and children, basically every different person you could expect to meet. We all have a huge fair in one of our beautiful parks. It's just amzing how large the turn out is. You know the thing I love about Pride month the most is the last day of Pride on which we have the Parade and a huge parties everywhere. At the Parade the crowd of people that come to see the march is HUGE. Its AMAZING. Us walking down the street and getting along with everyone. I just love the feeling that everyone is one. There is no need to hide the children away at home ... all the kids are on their parents shoulders and everyone is just loving the atmosphere.

I remember one year myself and my friends were all glamoured up and I had a bubble gun and all the kids were going ape over the bubbles I was blowing out this thing. Everyone is on the side lines and chatting with all sorts of sexualities. People are actually seen for the people they are and not what they do in bed. Thats my dream for everyday of the future.

monk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Your very welcome tinman

monk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

heheh thank you, you hit the nail right on the head.

I only aspire to be even half as beautiful as you Your picture is gorgeous.

Josh

Sent on	02-Jul-03 23:28 Jul 2, 2003
Sent By	northern girl
Title	Hi from northern girl
Message	Don't take this personally but ANY true religion that follows bible principals cannot condone your lifestyle. Remember about false prophets tickling peoples ears at the time of the end? I think you sound like a very humane person who should really take a reality check ... northern girl ... (emailed you so I can't be considered a troll).