Posts by m0nk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Alright I have tolerated this bullsh*t from you guys long enough .. stop using this thread as a means to fight out you own crap .. this thread is about gay issues and my life story .. get it back to the topic or I will speak to simon about having your posts deleted off the thread.

You guys have been around on this forum long enough to know the rules and yet you constantly break them by posting the same post on several threads and also changing the subject to suit yourselves, really I think it's pathetic.

Josh

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

I don't mind answering that at all .. I think I might start another thread about it though ( I don't wanna change the feel of this post anymore than it has.) .. most people proberbly won't be interested but I guess it can be a nioce fluffy thread

But thanks for asking Prisca .. the new thread will be up in a minute or two

Josh

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

I recall an elder making a horrible statement during one of our book studies. We were discussing plagues and he said gay people were disgusting and diserved to get Aids. His opinion made me absolutely sick to my stomach. Actually his comment for the very first step to me leaving the Organiztion; it showed so clearly the absolute lack of love this religion had

I do remember having one of the elders saying the same kind of thing when they came and saw me, he was getting quite angry because I had said I was born gay. After saying that gay people that got AIDS deserved to die because they brought AIDS into this world I said to him that was a disgusting thing to say and perhaps he should go and research a little more about the origins of AIDS and not label a whole people with it. I was clearly digusted with him and my mum agreed to what I was saying at the time to. I was glad that this came up after I had become alot weller, it gave me the strength to actually fight for my rights. I had also said that perhaps one day Jehovah might accept gay people because times have changed, maybe in the new system parts of the new scrolls to be opened up would open up new understandings, surprisingly the other elder said thats a possability. (I think he was rather upset over the way the other elder acted as well)

After he said that it kind of strengthend my faith to fight a bit longer .. only to realise afterwards that it was a fight that wouldn't be and couldn't be won .. why would I want to win it ?

monk3y

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As reported in court

by Soledad in

q: now doctor, isnt it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning?.

q: the youngest son, the twenty-year old, how old is he?.

q: were you present when your picture was taken?.

m0nk3y

Oh I LOVE the last one !!

monk3y

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How come Satan gets to survive Armageddon ? and we don't ? Are we that bad

by run dont walk in

jw
friends

does this make all of us worse that satan ??????.

when replying to a thread started by black man i said something like ........ " after armageddon is over we will all be dead, but satan will still be kicking, and then let loose again after christ's 1000 year reign, so satan already has his get out of armageddon card, he's already thru.

" sounds fair, don't you think ?????????

m0nk3y

Everything happens for a reason!

monk3y

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What is your most hated "platitude"?

by happyout in

jw
friends

mine is the old "everything happens for a reason".

when i lost my daughter, i heard this so many times, i seriously thought i was going to punch the next freakin' idiot who said it.

it's just ridiculous.. i also hate the variation "god does everything for a reason".. happyout (whose teeth are still set on edge when she hears that)

m0nk3y

That "Everything happens for a reason" is such an annoying statment. And god knows why people use it all the time .. So if theres a reason behind it then why don't you work it out and give it some credability instead of being a braindead f*ck knuckle.

monk3y

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Actually northern girl don't you break your own bibles good advice of ..

judge no one concerning the sabbath and abstain from blood.

monk3y.

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Sphere you are an amazing person!! To take the difficult situation that you have been in and to do somthing positive with it is completely inspiring to me. You obviously have a very kind and generous heart.

I remember a conversation I had with an elder’s wife. I wanted to know why some people were gay. She said, “It’s because they dwell on immoral thoughts”. And so I asked her “How do you keep yourself from thinking about other women”. She literally gasped and said firmly and loudly “I have never had immoral thoughts about another women!” And so I asked her “How does Ed (her elder hubby) keep from fantasizing about other men? She just spluttered.

This made me laugh, people liket his just don't get it. Perhaps if they actually campared what they were saying with their own situation they might start to grasp it.

It is not a choice, if it was my ex would have changed and so would the great majority of others. No one chooses to be a minority that is so tromped upon. It happens in about ten percent of the population, the same as in the animal kingdom.

Your ex obviously choose you in the first place because of your beautiful nature, if sexuality was choice I have no doubt at all he would be straight and with you.

Thank you.

Josh

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My story (in depth) PHEW!

by Aztec in

i've shared a bit about my experiences but i don't think i ever gone into much detail.

i'm setting this down as an example of what growing up a witness can be like for any lurkers who have doubts or questions.

i was born into a family of witnesses.

m0nk3y

Aztec, my life was bad .. but a breeze compared to what you have endured *HUGZ* I am glad you are here on the otherside standing with us with strength. My guts tightened so much reading your story. You are truely a very strong person, thank you for sharing it with us.

Josh

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

m0nk3y

Ok this is all very overwhelming. I want to make sure I convey exactly the things that I want to say here.

Firstly I would like to say that by posting my story was in no way asking for or wanting sympathy, the main reason I wanted to post it was because I want people I talk to on a day to day basis to understand the inner workings of myself. The 2 nd reason was because I wanted some on here that are otherwise inclined to get a positive, direct and raw insight on exactly what people have to go through to be true to themselves when they are gay. Thirdly I want to help other people gay/lesbian/transgender/straight to relate and gather strength from my strength. The reasons are all 100% important to me, despite them being place in a particular order does not mean that they are of lesser importance than the reason above them.

I have been using the internet and chat for at least half of my lifetime so I am very familiar with it. So let me be the first it saying how ridiculous it is to be offended by me sharing northern girls Message to me. The reason why it’s ridiculous is because PM’s are a way of communicating something to one person without having to discuss it with another person. For example, if my friend Vanessa rang me on the phone or was to come and talk to me at home while everyone else was busy doing something and told me such and such, wouldn’t I be able to convey that message to my boyfriend or whoever else ? On the other hand if Vanessa was to say to me I’m telling you this but I would like for you not to mention it to anyone the matter would be different again. To compare a PM with a Priests use of information is stupid !

I have received many PM’s on this site that are particularly personal and private and are said as such, I wouldn’t even dream of sharing even a small portion of them with anyone else. I think that the idea of ALL PM’s being private and secret comes from to many of you bitching about other people on this site in secret, which is fine with me, bitch all you like but for god sake don’t try and compare it.

I felt it was important to show this message of northern girls because of my above reasons for posting my story in the first place. I, as a gay man have had many people like northern girl talk to me separated from other people and tell me their harsh view of me .. It’s very disheartening and difficult to deal with .. Especially when your weak and new to expressing how you feel. It’s important that I show this to other people that might just be coming to terms with being “out” because it can have such a negative effect that you feel that the feelings and thoughts of these type of people are what to expect from most people, when in fact it’s the opposite which this thread thanks to me posting it and northern girls PM have shown.

I would also like to point out this which I cut and pasted directly from the terms of use above ..

4. You acknowledge that communications to or with bulletin board services, chat areas, news groups, forums, communities and/or other message or communication facilities are not private communications, therefore others may read your communications without your knowledge. You should always use caution when providing any personal information about yourself or your family.

Although I WOULD NOT share anything sombody told me in confidence in PM unless of course the situation was extreme to the point of being a police matter.

Monk3y

I thank the rest of you for your heartfelt thoughts, it is much appreciated.