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  Freedom to Choose God

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  come to the wedding.

  ' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.

  ' for i say to you that god is able to raise up children to abraham from these stones.

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  "Howsoever men may approach me, even so do I acept them; for, on all sides, whatever path they may choose is mine."

  From the Bhagavad-Gita

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  Newbies to screwbies, At what stag of recovery are you?

  by jst2laws in

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  at what stage of recovery are you?

  are you angry?

  are you depressed?

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  I was "over" the deprogramming stage within a couple months of my exiting, although I basically knew it wasn't the "truth" when I left two years ago. I went through a long depression that I thought was over but seem to have relapsed into in the last couple of months, specifically the last couple of weeks. There's been a few triggers which have gotten me to think about the whold "JW thing" again.

  Honestly, I think there will be up's and down's for a few years to come. I don't think anyone who was raised a JW will ever totally get over it. I'm sure I will think about the JWs and what they stand for till the day I die. That doesn't have to be a bad thing, just a *thing*.

  Bradley
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  Do you fear death?

  by onacruse in

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  the ultimate test of our existence: termination.. i don't fear death...no reservations, no nightmares.. craig

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  logansrun

  The "little death" in French refers to an orgasm.

  Don't ask how I know this.

  Bradley
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  I told my mom I was going to Dallas and she FLIPPED OUT

  by logansrun in

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  dear gentle members, .

  remember the thread i started about my "liberal" jw mother?

  well, forget all about that.

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  Gosh, I've gotta say a BIG "Thank you" to all of you. We may disagree on our current understanding of religion, science and politics, but it's times like this when all those differences get set aside. Really, I'm touched.

  It's just been a really bad time lately. I don't know exactly why. It's been two years since I left (this week, actually) and I sometimes wonder if, quite subconsciously, I am re-experiencing the absolute hellish turmoil that took place that week.

  Once again -- even though I can be a real pain in the ass -- thank you, thank you, thank you.

  Bradley
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  Governing Blunders - Part 1

  by hillary_step in

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  i thought i would start a weekly column of wts inanity, inanity serious enough to have affected peoples perceptions and negatively changed their lives.. .

  one famous wts myth that i have heard uttered more times a minimus question is that ?women feel while men think?, did you ever wonder where the wts dug that thought up from?

  apparently from an unamed woman psychologist and the famous department of ?many authorities?

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  logansrun

  HS,

  I'm only kidding 'ol chap. It's not a big deal in my book. I have a lot of respect for you (really, I do) and hope you're not taking my humor to be anything more than that.

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  Governing Blunders - Part 1

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
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  i thought i would start a weekly column of wts inanity, inanity serious enough to have affected peoples perceptions and negatively changed their lives.. .

  one famous wts myth that i have heard uttered more times a minimus question is that ?women feel while men think?, did you ever wonder where the wts dug that thought up from?

  apparently from an unamed woman psychologist and the famous department of ?many authorities?

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  logansrun

  Euphemism is absolutely right and you are totally wrong hillary-step.
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  I told my mom I was going to Dallas and she FLIPPED OUT

  by logansrun in

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  dear gentle members, .

  remember the thread i started about my "liberal" jw mother?

  well, forget all about that.

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  Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. Just when I thought I was "over" the JWs and my mother and I have been getting along -- BOOM! Sometimes I don't think I'll EVER be completely over this. It will be with me to the day I die.

  Mulan...my mother has admitted she "briefly looked at" apostate sites. She said it was nothing but hate and "half-truths" which is of course the WT's wording. It's nuts.

  Enter Twilight Zone theme....do do do do, do do do do....

  Bradley
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  I told my mom I was going to Dallas and she FLIPPED OUT

  by logansrun in

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  dear gentle members, .

  remember the thread i started about my "liberal" jw mother?

  well, forget all about that.

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  logansrun

  Dear gentle members,

  Remember the thread I started about my "liberal" JW mother? Well, forget all about that. I told her I was going on vacation to Dallas on Friday and inevitably had to mention that it was through this discussion board that I got invited. I didn't mention it was an "apostafest" or anything; just a few friends from the board who want to get together.

  She was disgusted. This disgust exacerbated my mood into one of intense anger. I honestly don't think I've EVER been this angry before. In fact, I'm ashamed of how angry I got. Let me give you some highlights of an absolutely explosive night at my house:

  She repeatedly calls ex-JWs, "anti-Jehovahs Witnesses" and says we all have a "vendetta" and a "hatred" for the Truth. She says JWs, on the other hand, "don't hate anybody" to which I responded, "Well, they hate other religious institutions as well as all governments" to which she said, "No we don't. We just tell them why they are wrong Biblically"

  She says that "every organization -- be it a business or a religion -- has an 'ideal standard' that need not be met." I strove to be a "Super Jehovah's Witness" and when I "faltered" I "stabbed the organization, including [my] family in the back." She said it was MY choice to pioneer, not go to college (she cites a few names that did) and that the Society is only slightly to blame (yes, that is liberal!). She doesn't understand that I did WHAT THE SOCIETY ENCOURAGES. Ever f***ing (sorry, I'm so upset!) issue of the OKM talks about "doing your utmost" ad nauseum. I did it. She didn't. And it's all MY FAULT, according to her.

  She said that I "choose" not to have non-ex-JW friends and that I -- this is her exact wording -- don't know how to develop real friendships. At this point I am ashamed to say I SCREAMED AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS at her. Four letter words were said. My fist hit the table (hard). She touched a nerve with me. She exacerbated my mood to the point of absolute RAGE.

  I did apologize later for this, though.

  My mother said that all ex-JWs do is log onto the internet and COMPLAIN about stupid little things -- "this elder hurt my feelings" -- or about looney sayings from CT Russel a hundred years ago. Yes, I myself have criticized ex-JWs that ONLY do that sort of thing, but she's under the impression there is no LOGICAL and NONEMOTIONAL argument against the Society.

  I cannot tell you how absolutely, totally frustrating it is dealing with her. Perhaps it's more frustrating, in a way, because she has *some* liberal tendencies and she actually is a pretty critical thinker about most other matters in life. If she was like some typical JW (ie, whacked out) I could brush her loony cultishness off. But she's my MOTHER -- someone I want approval from and who I otherwise admire.

  I'm so pissed off right now I could spit.

  I told her that if she wants a relationship with me anything having to do with religion or the JWs is not to be discussed. Funny thing is I only lash out at her religion when she expressed this type of disapproval in me and my choices in life.

  Don't worry folks, I'm still going to the Apostafest. (Things have calmed down a little at home. She even offered to pick me up from the airport on Monday).

  Basically, to make a long stroy short, she thinks that some of you might be good people but are total NUTCASES who are obsessed with the "truth" as she calls it. She also said she feared for my life because "there are a lot of evil people out there on the net luring young people away."

  Sorry for rambling. I need a stiff drink.

  Bradley
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  Things to bring to Dallas for the Apostachillifest...

  by logansrun in

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  swimming trunks.. suntan oil.. cds for jammin in my room.

  "go out" outfit.

  martini glasses.. cellphone.. bible.

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  Swimming trunks.

  Suntan oil.

  CDs for jammin in my room.

  "Go out" outfit.

  Umbrella.

  Martini-shaker.

  Martini glasses.

  Cellphone.

  Bible.

  Anything else?

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  The funniest comment I ever gave at the KH....

  by logansrun in

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  it was the written review and i knew all the answers (what person with half a brain didn't -- or couldn't "figure it out" at his/her seat?).

  but, i was also the literature servant and had to get that month's request done before the meeting was over.

  so, right after song and prayer i went into the elders room and compiled the request (there were always brothers doing some work in there.

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  It was the written review and I KNEW all the answers (what person with half a brain didn't -- or couldn't "figure it out" at his/her seat?). But, I was also the Literature Servant and had to get that month's request done before the meeting was over. So, right after song and prayer I went into the elders room and compiled the request (there were ALWAYS brothers doing some work in there. Anything to get out of a meeting!)

  Well, I finished the report, took a pee and got a seat at the back of the hall. It was the point in the review where questions were being answered by the audience. The overseer on stage read something that seemed so obvious, like:

  "He who commits fornication is sinning against his own body."

  Yeah, like I haven't heard that before! So, I raised my hand and said "True" into the microphone. There was a long pause. People started to turn and look at me. The overseer started to chuckle. "Well, it...uh.....it MUST be true!" I said. At this point the hall was roaring.

  It was match the scripture to the statement. Doh!

  Bradley