Check out John Hick's "Evil and the God of Love" for a look at some Christian theodicies.
B.
tmo commented on reading books which gave different views on why under the crisis of conscience thread.
all i've ever known is the jw view.
that he is giving satan time to prove mankind cant lead themselves.. what are other views?
Check out John Hick's "Evil and the God of Love" for a look at some Christian theodicies.
B.
ok, so many of us thought we would one day soon be on easy steet.
the new system would be here, no more problems, health or financial.
we would all have our own house and life would be bliss.
Hey, why not try Bangledesh! I hear rent is cheap!
seems to me that in the jw religion, virginity is considered to be an essential requirement for the born-into-its, right up until the time that they get married.
seems to me also, that the jw religion, while condemning fornication generally, sets greater store on females remaining intacto, as opposed to males, what with references to "old towels that any man can wipe his hands on" and the like.
very patriarchal.
A certain fellow I know (ex-JW from another board) is gleefully married right now to a charming wife. He said they're relationship started as "mutual genital infatuation" and nothing more. But, after a number of rolls in the sack they found out they actually really liked each other. In fact, they were beginning to fall in love!
Who'da thunk it?
B.
"Politics is taking over the board again."
ok, so many of us thought we would one day soon be on easy steet.
the new system would be here, no more problems, health or financial.
we would all have our own house and life would be bliss.
Is this a crazy idea or am I just completely disillusioned?
Yes and yes.
B.
seems to me that in the jw religion, virginity is considered to be an essential requirement for the born-into-its, right up until the time that they get married.
seems to me also, that the jw religion, while condemning fornication generally, sets greater store on females remaining intacto, as opposed to males, what with references to "old towels that any man can wipe his hands on" and the like.
very patriarchal.
Sheila,
I do think it's interesting that most of the posters who think that waiting to have sex until you are married is a good thing also are religious, specifically, Christians. Think that has anything to do with it?
I didn't say all.
Even though you're not a Christian, you are a Republican though, yes?
B.
seems to me that in the jw religion, virginity is considered to be an essential requirement for the born-into-its, right up until the time that they get married.
seems to me also, that the jw religion, while condemning fornication generally, sets greater store on females remaining intacto, as opposed to males, what with references to "old towels that any man can wipe his hands on" and the like.
very patriarchal.
BG,
Try having a romantic relationship without the sex. See what comes of it. You might be surprised.
What I hear you saying is that sex can cloud a relationship and make it more about sex than love. Playing it safe, don't have sex before marriage and you can be confident your partner really loves you.
But doesn't someone's attractiveness and the possibility of future sex also a possible distortion of they're true feelings? To play it even safer, why not date people who you have not seen face to face or in a picture? You can talk over the phone and just get to know them. That way, a person will not have the distortion of a pretty face and can focus on qualities alone!
Of course, that's ridiculous. It's the total package we are interested in. If that includes sex, so be it. If not, so be it.
B.
seems to me that in the jw religion, virginity is considered to be an essential requirement for the born-into-its, right up until the time that they get married.
seems to me also, that the jw religion, while condemning fornication generally, sets greater store on females remaining intacto, as opposed to males, what with references to "old towels that any man can wipe his hands on" and the like.
very patriarchal.
Women like to get laid too, you know. It's not all about the lovey-dovey stuff.
B.
i remember when i first started studying i was always so quick to defend the borg if anyone said anything negative about them.
i didn't even have a reason to or had any business doing so because i was so new and didn't even really know anything about it.
and i absolutley refused to believe that they could be involved in child molestation, even going as far as refusing to watch the news shows exposing the real truth.
I will defend the JWs when something misleading or sensationlistic is said about them. Just because someone says something negative about them doesn't mean that it is true.
Bradley....wishes people would take the above attitude more.
seems to me that in the jw religion, virginity is considered to be an essential requirement for the born-into-its, right up until the time that they get married.
seems to me also, that the jw religion, while condemning fornication generally, sets greater store on females remaining intacto, as opposed to males, what with references to "old towels that any man can wipe his hands on" and the like.
very patriarchal.
I think that's more must a matter of your opinion, Billygoat. There are plenty of people who have had sex in a relationship before they were married and everything turned out just fine. There have been plenty of virgins who got married and their relationship turned into shit.
There's more to marriage than love, actually. People's needs and philsosphy of life also come into play. If two people are mature enough to see that sex and love are seperate things, why can't they have both of these aspects of life in their relationship both before and after marriage?
Does your husband share your faith? That may, in part, explain his being okay with not having sex before marriage.
Bradley