Posts by Garrett

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Oppressive wolves will enter the flock....

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

ok, so i politely let an elder in our cong know how i felt about the gossip and slander that has been levelled at me.. he has been pushing to find out how i feel about the events of the last few months.. i calmly replied: .

"well, i know that it was foretold that oppressive wolves would enter the flock and treat many harshly.

i stood up to such harshness against many in our cong, then i was turned on and had accusations levelled against me!

Garrett

Nice response.

You have to love that christian spirit! They are so loving.

A song...

by Garrett in

good evening, guys,.

so, i just found a song that i really enjoyed and thought i'd share it with you.

i know that most of you probably don't have the same taste in music as i do, but i hope you enjoy the song nonetheless.. song: https://youtube.com/watch?v=krtcxbhqskk.

Garrett

Good evening, guys,

So, I just found a song that I really enjoyed and thought I'd share it with you. I know that most of you probably don't have the same taste in music as I do, but I hope you enjoy the song nonetheless.

Song: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KrtcxBHqskk

in addition to that, I wanted to thank you all for your comments on my 1975 prediction post. I am still waiting for the elder to contact me but I now have a clear understanding of what's going to be said and how to respond.

Peace, love and have a wonderful weekend,

Garrett

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1975 failed prediction?

by Garrett in

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friends

heyo,.

your favorite garrett here.

so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

Garrett

heyo,

your favorite garrett here. So, I'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine. Some points I brought up:

since jehovahs spirit is perfect and so is its direction, how could jehovahs organization as a whole make a false prediction about the end times?

If you answer imperfect men, the. What stops the other religions from using the same excuses? What makes us different? What stops the org from making the same mistake in the future? How do we know that our teachings aren't mistakes that could be changed?

what should I expect? I was talking to this sister and she said she was going to ask an elder since she herself seems quite unsure about the subject. She even said that perhaps jehovah removed his soirit from the, and that's why they made the prediction.

hopefully this works!

Thanks and have a wonderful weekend!

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Disfellowshipping in New Zealand?

by Garrett in

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friends

good morning everyone,.

i have a friend who lives in new zealand, and because of not wanting to be identified she has asked me to post this on her behalf.

she is just wanting clarification from people who live in the local area of something she heard.

Garrett

Good morning everyone,

I have a friend who lives in New Zealand, and because of not wanting to be identified she has asked me to post this on her behalf. She is just wanting clarification from people who live in the local area of something she heard. In the Thames congregation which is located in the Coromandel of New Zealand (those who live there will know where it is), there were 7-8 who in the last couple of weeks were DF for apostasy. Apparently one of the casualties was a person who has the initials A.M. Can anyone confirm or deny this or perhaps knows any more details. She has only heard it as a rumour.

thanks,

Garrett

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

Garrett

I will agree that the bible does have some good in it, especially the New Testament, however, you cannot ignore the fact that the bible has bad in it as well such as those that were mentioned by some of our fellow members. Yes the New Testament has some good morals in it such as the golden rule, but frankly, we are all born with the same moral compass. For example, a person not raised in a religious household will have the same moral code as a Christian. They will know stealing, killing, lying, etc is wrong.

Now let me ask, what makes the bible any different from the holy books of other major religions such as Islam, Hinduism, taoism, Sikhism etc? What if you were born in a part of the world where the major religion was Hinduism? Would you have the same view of the bible as you do now? Would you not hold the view that your religions holy book is the truth and the bible is not?

Lastly (Going a bit off topic) every holy book claims divine authorship, just like the bible, so without thoroughly looking into all those how can you know for sure that your book is the truth? I mention this because I assume you're a theist who believes in the Bible. The points you make are the same points people all around the world make to defend their beliefs just like you are doing.

Hopefully that made some sense, I just woke up :p

Peace,

Garrett

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

Garrett

Double post :(

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Struggling

by Alive! in

i read here regularly and although i haven't joined in, i really appreciate all the wonderful contributions from those who are willing to share their experiences.... .

i was a convert.

i won't go into the whole history ( perhaps another day) - my story could easily be recognised in the small town where i live, with my husband.. so, we stopped going to the meetings around a period of time when we were going through severe emotional difficulties - at that point, we needed unconditional family love - the hectic, forced jw dinner parties and social occasions gave no real comfort.

Garrett

Hi alive,

I'm so sorry to hear about your terrible experience. I completely understand what you're going through because I, and numerous others have gone through it as well.

my lowest point in the organization came when I became very depressed and suicidal. I asked for help from the elders but got ignored. They never seemed to care about y mental health even hough they very well knew what was wrong with me. Ghosts when I finally decided it was over and I left never to return.. Do you know how I feel now after leaving? My depression slowly went away and has not returned. I have never felt more free and mentally clear!

this is going to sound harsh, but I've found out the hard way that life is harsh. After deciding to stop going to meetings, you need to be able to live with knowing that your so called friends will never look at you the same way again. Most of the relationships they have are superficial, hardly anything is ever real.

what I recommend is this, instead of being cooped up in the house or doing what you would normally do everyday, I recommend you go out and find something that you and your husband enjoy doing. Find a group that you guys can join or a club. For example, when I left, I started taking a martial art. Something I've always wanted to do but couldn't due to the restrictions put in place by the organization. Maybe you have something you always wanted to do but couldn't because of the org?

if your husband left with you and you are both out together, that is wonderful. Many here don't have that luxury. I say, take full advantage of it!

im a young guy with a third of your experience in life, but I will say that it slowly will get better, I promise :)

peace and love,

Garrett

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DOCUMENTS: Candace Conti v Watchtower – Court of Appeal Decision - April 2015

by jwleaks in

jw leaks has published the court of appeal decision and documents relating to conti v watchtower, including appeal documents and jury trial transcripts.jw leaks | conti v watchtower (court documents).

congratulations candace on your win and thank you for proving watchtower was negligent in your suffering and in not protecting children.

one person can make a difference.

Garrett

REKT!

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Do Kingdom Hall congregations communicate with each other?

by Faithful Witness in

when asked, my mom denies that they do.... do local congregations pass along gossip or reports on householders in the area?

specifically, i am wondering if they might report on (unbaptized) family members that live in other towns?.

since the abrupt ending of my bs with miss k, i have not heard from the jw's at all.

Garrett

I believe it depends on the congregations and the people in them.

where I'm at, it's all gossip and many of the friends in he different congregations know each other well,Mao word gets around quite fast.

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First time they publicly admit this or not?

by TimDrake1914 in

i came across this on the newest wt study edition for 7/15/15 pg.

9 par.

14:"they remember when congregations had a congregation servant rather than a body of elders, when countries had a branch servant rather than a branch committee, and when direction was given by the president of the watch tower society rather than by a clearly established governing body of jehovahs witnesses.

Garrett

Im pretty sure you can find this information in the big green proclaimers book but I may be wrong.