in the last 6 months my family and i have stopped attending cold turkey.
it is incredible to me to see how our so called friends have dropped us like we were a snake covered in spiders.
we actually havent really said anything to anybody about why we stopped.
Skinnedsheep Congrats!
You have just started down the "road less traveled" for jdub families. My wife and three children (teenagers at the time) commence on this road back in December of 2001 when I resigned as the Watchtower conductor and as an Elder. We endured similar treatment.We have not looked back.
Rejoining the "Human Race" is a beautiful thing.
I rarely post, however I felt compelled after reading your experience.
I had a major flashback.
Peace be unto.
Gideon
anyone know harry weaver, a co?
my friend had him last week and said he was a real hardliner.
he has served in bethel for some time.
Hi Java,
I met James Baldwin a few times when he was in feeling out the congo I was serving in, before my family and I made our "flee to the mountain top". As I recollect he and his family ended up at a congo on the Northside of Columbus. I still have family that are jdubs in the Dayton area.
If I am not mistaken their hall is off of Gettysburg Ave.
anyone know harry weaver, a co?
my friend had him last week and said he was a real hardliner.
he has served in bethel for some time.
Truthseeker,
Harry seems to be as hypocritical as most jdubs in authority postion. The statement atributed to him "My friend heard him give a talk at the Assembly recently, said he came across as tough on issues, Divine Education is better than worldly education." Is very indicative of what they say to the "RF" while behind close doors they envy those with secular education. I recall one elders meeting concerning reorganization of a new boe and he emphazied that one of the new elders coming to the congo was an "Educated Man" and he should be used accordingly by the body.
I would bet his toupe (if he had one to bet) that he was not refering to divine ed.
anyone know harry weaver, a co?
my friend had him last week and said he was a real hardliner.
he has served in bethel for some time.
Hi Truthseeker,
As you can see by my numbers I am not big on posting, however I had to respond to your inquiry about Harry Weaver.
If this is the same Harry Weaver who is an older gentleman and bald on top. He served in the Columbus, Ohio area back in the mid 90's.
I have him to thank for playing a part in my exiting the WTS.
You see Harry and I was out knocking on doors one day when a houselholder verbally attack us and call us Russellities.
Yes, Harry is a hardliner from the "oldschool" so I though for sure he would put this lady in her place.
At the time I was a newly appointed elder who he insisted on working with that Saturday, even though I had expressed plans of working with
my wife and children.
Well as it turn out it was Harry's turn to take a door when the lady verbally challenged the two of us, and I was quite certain that Harry was
going to show this "young elder" how to skillfully use his "sword" to put this lady in here place.
Much to my amazement his only response was to throw his hand up as to signal "STOP" and turned and walked away and left me on the
stairs with my mouth laying on the ground in absolute astonishment.
I never forgot that (FS) experience.
I finally figured it out when I left in 2001.
Rob
i am not going to divulge any names or contact details as i do not what this being taken much further.. i will cut to the chase, i have fallen in love with a jehova's witness.
i am not a jehova's witness... can you see where this is going?
i have been told that her being in love with me is strictly against jw "policy"... now, i have been scowering the net for days now, becomming increasingly insomniate and i have to admit, i have found nothing to support this warning.
IF YOU MARRY THIS PERSON HER MAIN OBJECTIVE WILL BE TO BRING YOU INTO THE ORGANIZATION. IF YOU DECIDED IT IS NOT FOR YOU , SHE WILL BE UNHAPPY AND YOU WILL BE TOO.
this is my first post, i am using a friend?s alias because i can?t seem to logon under my own.
i have been what?s known on this site as a lurker for the past 2 plus years.. however, i could not resist the opportunity to solicit your feedback on an e-mail i received from a co-worker who is a j-dub.. i no longer consider myself one, although i was in the org.
for 25 years.. after reviewing the e-mail my family and i became quite nausea.. please take a look and tell me what you think.. .
The comment goes on to say:"(Rom.3:23). Because Eccl. 9:11 mentions that "time and unforeseen occurence befall..." us all". And that's not to say Jehovah won't receive us back with open arms like the prodigal son" because he will. It's not Jehovah who leaves us it's us who leave Jehovah. Psalm 37:28 sates-" For Jehovah is a lover of justice, and he will not leave his loyal ones. To time indefinite they will certainly be guarded; But as for the wicked ones, they will indeed be cut off." So, we have to do what Jude,a slave of jesus said at Jude 3 in the latter part of that vers"...put up a hard fight for the faith..."
Though the puppy wolf had love for the farmer, he lift that love. Just like the congragation in Ephesus that the apostle John wrote about in Rev.2:4. They left the love they had at first. The congregation in Smyrna was told despite tribulation and poverty : Prove yourself faithful even to death, and I will give you the crown of life" (Rev.2:10).Well, the puppy wolf did not prove himself faithful. Instead he lost his life for not remaining loyal.
In order for the farmer to recognize the puppy wolf, he would have needed to stay behind the protective fence and not allow harmful influences to persuade him to go astray and beome soiled beyond recognition. So, in order for us to be recognized by Jesus when Armageddon comes, we would need to stay behind the "protective fence"-Jehovah and His organization which in turn will help us to remain stedfast in the truth and not allow us and our hearts to become soiled beyond recognition by this deteriorating system wr live in.
this is my first post, i am using a friend?s alias because i can?t seem to logon under my own.
i have been what?s known on this site as a lurker for the past 2 plus years.. however, i could not resist the opportunity to solicit your feedback on an e-mail i received from a co-worker who is a j-dub.. i no longer consider myself one, although i was in the org.
for 25 years.. after reviewing the e-mail my family and i became quite nausea.. please take a look and tell me what you think.. .
Hello all, this is the response to my comments from the e-mailer.
For some unknown reason all the comment did not print on the posting.
So here it is in its totality.
Sojourner.
The thought or point I gathered from this illustration was that at the beginning the farmer felt sorry for the puppy wolf and thus took him in. In a sense like Jehovah and Jesus Christ does, invites us into His organization. Nourishes us spiritually, mentally and physically. (Is. 55: 1-3)
Though when some are faced with situations that calls for their bible-based conscience to be their guide, some fail to utilize it. Like when the puppy wolf met up with wolves he didn't know or recognize, he began to think about what they were telling him. He felt he had been missing out on something. And with that he allowed what they said to influence his decision to go with them. (Gen. 3:4-6) Some will allow harmful influences to lead them away from serving Jehovah and having his protection. Like the puppy wolf, despite him being a wolf, as long as he was loyal and trustworthy to the farmer, he had the farmers protection. But by the puppy wolf leaving his safe haven being amongst the sheep, he no longer had the protection of the farmer. So, he became vulnerable to whatever happened good or bad.
Satan is constantly seeking ways to break our integrity to Jehovah. And when we stray or leave Jehovah's organization for whatever reason we no longer have His protection. That's not to say we're invincible or don't fall short (Rom.
this is my first post, i am using a friend?s alias because i can?t seem to logon under my own.
i have been what?s known on this site as a lurker for the past 2 plus years.. however, i could not resist the opportunity to solicit your feedback on an e-mail i received from a co-worker who is a j-dub.. i no longer consider myself one, although i was in the org.
for 25 years.. after reviewing the e-mail my family and i became quite nausea.. please take a look and tell me what you think.. .
Hello all, this is the response to my comments from the e-mailer.
Sojourner.
The thought or point I gathered from this illustration was that at the beginning the farmer felt sorry for the puppy wolf and thus took him in. In a sense like Jehovah and Jesus Christ does, invites us into His organization. Nourishes us spiritually, mentally and physically. (Is. 55: 1-3)
Though when some are faced with situations that calls for their bible-based conscience to be their guide, some fail to utilize it. Like when the puppy wolf met up with wolves he didn't know or recognize, he began to think about what they were telling him. He felt he had been missing out on something. And with that he allowed what they said to influence his decision to go with them. (Gen. 3:4-6) Some will allow harmful influences to lead them away from serving Jehovah and having his protection. Like the puppy wolf, despite him being a wolf, as long as he was loyal and trustworthy to the farmer, he had the farmers protection. But by the puppy wolf leaving his safe haven being amongst the sheep, he no longer had the protection of the farmer. So, he became vulnerable to whatever happened good or bad.
Satan is constantly seeking ways to break our integrity to Jehovah. And when we stray or leave Jehovah's organization for whatever reason we no longer have His protection. That's not to say we're invincible or don't fall short (Rom.
this is my first post, i am using a friend?s alias because i can?t seem to logon under my own.
i have been what?s known on this site as a lurker for the past 2 plus years.. however, i could not resist the opportunity to solicit your feedback on an e-mail i received from a co-worker who is a j-dub.. i no longer consider myself one, although i was in the org.
for 25 years.. after reviewing the e-mail my family and i became quite nausea.. please take a look and tell me what you think.. .
Hello all, this is my relpy to the e-mail that was sent to me.
John 13:34,35 states:"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you that you also love one another.(35) By this all will know (recognize) you are my diciples, if you have love among yourselves."
1Samuel 16:7 states:" Jehovah said to Samuel:" Do not look at his appearance and at the height of his stature,for I have rejected him. For not the way man sees is the way God sees, because mere man sees what appears to the eyes, but as for Jehovah, he sees what the heart is."
In the Illustration, the farmer kills the puppy wolf, because he looked at his outer appearance and did not recognize him.Even though the puppy wolf ran with the wolves (his kind) he still had love for the sheep and the farmer. The farmer killed the puppy wolf because he could not see the heart.
Is'nt it good to know that it is Jehovah God and his appointed King Jesus who will judge us and not man. Because God sees our hearts not just the outer appearance.
this is my first post, i am using a friend?s alias because i can?t seem to logon under my own.
i have been what?s known on this site as a lurker for the past 2 plus years.. however, i could not resist the opportunity to solicit your feedback on an e-mail i received from a co-worker who is a j-dub.. i no longer consider myself one, although i was in the org.
for 25 years.. after reviewing the e-mail my family and i became quite nausea.. please take a look and tell me what you think.. .
Thank you all for your comments, please keep them coming. I did make a reply to the person who sent the e-mail to me. I will post it. I really like the comments that was stated, I just needed to know if I was on the right track. In the pass I would over look the stuff shed send, but I could not let this one go without giving a reply.
Sojourner
