what do you think of ray(mond) franz?
i have seen here some people critisise him as not being a really heartfelt opponent of the wts, but my view is that he was quite honest about his expressed motives against the cult.
with his revelations he gave a lot of momentum to the ex jw movement (the apostate organisation according to the jws) and offered valuable assistance to those seeking to shake off the ideological and social dependance on the oppressive cult.
some people critisise him as not being a really heartfelt opponent of the WTS,
I heard some criticism about Ray Franz too. What else could the man do. Thanks to his books hundreds have seen the "light". The man is a true gentleman. Sometimes you catch more flies with honey. He sure did
Wanna
there were other people who either killed themselfs or tried to kill themselfs while they were at "the house of god.
one person who did kill himself was richard wheelock, press room overseer ......he jumped out of a window at the watchtower farm one day.......it seemed, he was never quite the same after his wife "willy" died..she seemed to be the only one that he could relate to.......which would make sence.....because he sure couldn't relate to any of us in the press room..........he would come over to our press and say "here is the work... get in out".......then just walk away.......he was not the type of person you would really want to talk to anyway......but wouldn't it be nice if just now and then, like every year or two, they might ask you how you were doing?.........you laugh.......but its true......i asked a friend of mind who was the press operator of press # 6 which at the time was one of the three biggest presses at bethel.
he had been in the press room for 4 full years.
Well New boy,
I really enjoyed and looked forward to your bethel experiences. Thanks for sharing
ok so apparently the gb has instutuited some kind of quota for aux pioneers for the month of april for the memorial or something.
so the pos wife came up to me yesterday and told me "every congregation needs at least 16 aux pioneers for the month of april.
you should can i count on you?
Yep, they want about 20% to aux pioneer in April. Hubby was at elder's meeting last week and were given a aux pioneer form and instructed to bring it in filled at the next meeting.
i came across something i'd written exactly 2 weeks and 5 days after i first became convinced (in a stupor) the the watchtower society wasn't the channel of god--and that they didn't have "the truth.
when a person sins against god.
the society is here teaching that confession of sins is something we do to jehovah.
WOW
How did I miss reading this two years ago?
less then two years ago my cousin, who was then 39, was working on his parents home and found he was having a hard time hammering in nails.
he would hit the nail, but as hard as he would try, he would end up making it crocked and he could not control it.
he thought this was weird, and decided to visit a doctor.
My condolences to you for your loss Freetobeme.
I did know someone with Lou Gehrings. It was very hard to watch her deteriorate and die. Scary stuff
wanna
the latest from brooklyn ( my mate in upper management ) i thought id share.. .
the watchtower is remaining bi monthly.
instead of both monthly offerings sharing same formats there is a change coming into action soon.
SOOO let me think this through. There is going to be one mag/rag for the public and one mag/rag for the insiders.
Seems to me the Kool-aid glass is going to get passed around a lot quicker. The leadership is slowly distancing the flock and isolating it and becoming more cultish at an alarming rate.The noose is tightening up. They are going to be beating their fellow brothers a lot harder.
I can wait to see what the content of the insider mag/rags will be like
wanna
i heard that stefano giacobbe,(very prominent district overseer) has left the "truf".
is this a rumor or fact?
can anyone confirm.
Midget,
I looke forward to the "day of revelations" for some of us, when we don't have to be underground.
My hubby would like to leave with a bang, but we both have hard core JW parents and our leaving would kill them. So we stay for their sakes.
But as time goes on and news like Stefano Giacobbe ha lasciato la verita, it becomes easier for us.
All the best to you my friend
wanna
i heard that stefano giacobbe,(very prominent district overseer) has left the "truf".
is this a rumor or fact?
can anyone confirm.
Midget,
Ambrogio is a unique man. I found him a little out of touch with things. Some of the stuff he told us at the pioneer meetings were really off the wall.
Stefano was a little too stiff but always friendly. I can't say more without revealing myself.
I bet you and I know each other, those italian circuits were not all that big.
regards
wanna
i heard that stefano giacobbe,(very prominent district overseer) has left the "truf".
is this a rumor or fact?
can anyone confirm.
I heard that Stefano Giacobbe,(very prominent district overseer) has left the "truf". Is this a rumor or fact? Can anyone confirm
Wanna (enquiring minds want to know)
its been a while since i posted here...hope everyone is well.. some in canada may read the national post newspaper...friday they had an editorial entitled "halfway between religion and cult", discussing the blood issue as it relates to the the surviving sextuplets in british columbia, canada.
i decided to respond, and to my suprise it become the "letter of the day", published in this weekend's edition of the post.
below is what i wrote.
Wow
that was great. good reasoning. got to use it
