Thanks kari. Down my parts they call at least once a month. In fact someone called today claiming to be from microsoft. Truly a big scam.
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Scam alert!!!!!
by KariOtt ini just recieved a call from "microsoft" claiming that they just recieved a call from me reporting a problem with my windows operating system.
i heard of this scam on the news.
they call stating they recieved a call reporting problems.
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Does anyone know what is happening with Italy's (Rome) Bethel???
by LoisLane looking for Superman inthere are rumors out, that the italy (rome) bethel is being shut down and putting out to pasture a large portion of the bethel staff.. has anyone heard anything... ?.
the word is that everyone but the most senior members will be let go.
the senior bethel family members will be reassigned.
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wannaexit
This comment is from LaFrancia which I offered to translate for him.
In Italy we have not obtained status under the "8 x 1000" law. The "8x 1000" law is the provision whereby citizens can donate 8 euros for every 1,000 euros owed to either church or government funded social activities.
Presently we have a small agreement where we can allocate 5 x1000 of our annual taxes.
Not sure If I am translating this properly "With regards Jehovah's chariot-----we seem be doing our utmost to be thrown off it.--acting badly before Jehovah, the brothers and the ex brothers
Anthony Morris III will be visiting and I will let this forum know what transpires.
On a sad note, some of you may remember the Italian American brother G. Fredianelli , who has passed away. His experience is in one of the Watchtowers.
Some wonder if the Italian Bethel will be sold. There are various speculations going around and we will keep the forum informed when we hear more.
Thank you
LaFrancia
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Advise needed please
by EdenOne indear forumites, i need your advise please.. i would like to write a letter to the world headquarters of the jehovah's witnesses regarding a subject that i've published an article recently.
i would like to draw the attention of the gb to said article, which i will send in print form (therefore, no attention would be drawn to the website where it was published).. naturally, because i am a jehovah's witness in good standing in the congregation and what i'll be discussing in my letter will be a dissenting view from the official doctrine/practice, i want to protect my identity and i don't want to be harassed by elders or subjected to any sort of judicial investigation.
nevertheless, i would be very interested in reading their response (if any) to my letter.. how can i do that?
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My husband wrote a letter about 20 years ago. In layman's terms the reply was: "shut up, sit down and do as your told" and the letter was sent back to the local body of elders.
I hope you have success, but from past experience it appears that they are too high and mighty to consider anything else.
All the best
Wanna
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A Faders Guide to Field Service
by pronomono inas a fader, i'm working on a mental guide to field service.
because most of this is a mental exercise realizing that your new knowledge, the mental side of things, is what makes it so hard to preach after learning ttatt.
what presentations have you used in field service as a fader to preach the good news without preaching jw propaganda?.
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Dont forget to push the screw rather than the doorbell :).
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I have read 5:
Crisis of conscience
In Search of Christian freedom
Gentile times reconsidered
and 2 of Karen Armstrongs
Thanks for that list there are few that have peeked my interest
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Baptism is a risk says JW.org - New YouTube video
by RayPublisher ini've been working on this one for a few weeks and it is finally done.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inmzhysxa-o.
here's the description from the youtube video:.
baptism is a risk!
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Great analysis ! Great read
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More WT Propaganda: Low Paying Jobs are OK for Family Heads. Just "Don't Miss the Meetings!"
by Oubliette ingod, evidently, wants you to be poor: .
a newly baptized brother is married, and he and his wife have three small children.
one day, a workmate suggested that he and the brother move to another company that paid a higher wage and provided more benefits.
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What lunacy!!
I know plenty right now that can't retire because they stuck with low paying job so they could put the "kinnom" (seriously this is how the COBE pronounces kingdom) first. Now they regret it and they complain that they will have to work into their eighties to survive.
But the "kings of the hill" will still ask for their "pound of flesh".
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Finally sending a letter to the elders today
by Suraj Khan infigured i'd give them a shot to explain why i was expelled from the congregation 23 years ago without counsel or a jc.
dear sirs:.
i attended the xxxx congregation in the mid-1980s as a teenaged unbaptized publisher.
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Suraj: thanks for the kind words. It's hard to wrap my mind around the whole shunning business. I see it now for the cruel behaviour that it actually is.
As to being afraid of apostates--yes I was too. Watchtower loves to villify innocent human beings whose only fault has been the ability to think for themselves.
I remember as a child my father would say that the biggest apostate/enemy the watchtower ever had was Ray Franz, who had single handledly tried to take over the watchtower. Imagine that. I remember how fearful I was about that. Years later, when I had opportunities to correspond with Ray and speak to him personally, I realized what a slanderous thing this was.
I believe that in the last couple of years there is a change in the hearts of many innocent sincere jw when it comes to the shunning practice. Deep down inside many know that this is very inhumane and they are "bucking the trend" and doing what is right just like your family is doing to you. I hope that you can enjoy some great times with them.
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Finally sending a letter to the elders today
by Suraj Khan infigured i'd give them a shot to explain why i was expelled from the congregation 23 years ago without counsel or a jc.
dear sirs:.
i attended the xxxx congregation in the mid-1980s as a teenaged unbaptized publisher.
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Suraj,
Your letter is very respectful and professional. I feel sick when I hear of shunning stories such as yours. Like Lois , I also am ashamed of all the shunning I did as a a pious jw . I shunned many people. Shame on me!!.
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NEW CASE FILED in relation to the Menlo Park Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses scandal
by jwleaks ina new civil case has been filed in the menlo park congregation of jehovah's witnesses scandal.. .
for those following the case, the 55 page volume of court documents, dated october 25, 2013, can be downloaded at jw leaks.. http://jwleaks.org/scandals/menlo-park-congregation/.
the court document contains a facsimile copy of correspondence between christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses and the body of elders in the menlo park congregation on pages 42 and 43.. page 54 contains a facsimile copy of a letter re: an investigation conducted by the city of menlo park over a complaint of "fraud and embezzelment".
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Can someone be kind and refresh my memory (short version )on the Menlo Park case. I know, I know I am being lazy--but after a day at work glued to computer my mind just cant handle any indepth reading. :)