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Time to Arrest the Leaders of the Anti-War Movement,

by LuckyLucy in

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/index.html

the u.s. sedition act

united states, statutes at large, washington, d.c., 1918, vol.

JLOB

LuckyLucy,

If you weren't so confussed and stupid I would try to reply to you.

Instead I want everyone else to know that you offend many of us veterans who have served during war.

People have died to protect what is good about Americia. I personally know a close friend of mine that I had the priviledge to serve with that totally thought that the first Gulf War was wrong. He like many other brave and commited Americans did what was asked of thim dispite their OPIONIONS". When my freinds term in Kuwait was over he was awarded the Silver Star with Valor. (Valor means he risked his life).

One thing that makes our nation great is the public debate of national issues. Many have done their part to ensure that debates continue. If we go to war there will be soldiers who disagree with the war, fulfilling their duty in the war dispite their opionions. This phenomenon has occured in every war America has ever fought in. There are brave committed indivduals who fully understand DUTY. Imagine locking away a Silver Star Soldier that will save lives if called upon.

We are not a nation that locks away people that oppose our government, our president, or the fighting of wars.

If your solution is to lock away those who oppose you, how different are you from our enemy?

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IMAGINE!

by JLOB in

imagine ,.

imagine there's no heaven.

it's easy if you try.

JLOB

IMAGINE,

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above is only sky.
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
and no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood a man
Sharing all the world
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you join us
and the world will be as one.

John Lennon

You can say I'm a Dreamer and I know that I'm not the only one.

I can IMAGINE - where do you all stand?

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Bleeding Heart Liberals!! Did you see......

by LuckyLucy in

....the savage nation on msnbc 2:00 today?

( pacific time) this show was his first on television.he has a radio show.he is so right on about everything!

bush, illegal aliens, the borders.

JLOB

Lucky Lucy are you sure,

"I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English! My father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours."

You want them to Speak English as in the Language of England? Back in the day all the English speaking people were foreigners who came here in search of a better life. They were the same foreigners that killed the natives and stole their land. I am sure the Native American Indians wished that the English speaking people would learn to speak their language and get the hell out of their land.

You claim to be a conservative. You are not. You are an opinionated Idiot. Since when did everything you think become conservative?

There is a lot of values and principles that the conservatives stand for that I respect. Many of your views are offensive and are contrary to the views of most inteligent conservatives. I do not know any Conservatives that are as stupid as you. So please stop selling your ideas as conservative you starting to get people to think that the conservative movement is as foolish as you and it is not.

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Bleeding Heart Liberals!! Did you see......

by LuckyLucy in

....the savage nation on msnbc 2:00 today?

( pacific time) this show was his first on television.he has a radio show.he is so right on about everything!

bush, illegal aliens, the borders.

JLOB

Dedalus,

I think you are on to something.

This is not a liberal vs consertative issue. Anyone that flat out supports any War because of what they hear from a conservative Republican or a Liberal Democrate is a FOOL.

Suddam has blown off his responsibilities for over 11 years, 2 of those years during Bush's administration and 8 years during Clintons. Suddam is not anymore a threat than he was 11 plus years ago. Why is it now time to play hard ball? During those 11 plus years Suddam has never been accused of a terroistic attack on the US. We know he has weapons of mass distruction because we sold them to him. Does everyone forget what Daddy Bush did in the 80's to get hostages freed. Ask Oliver North! Why now is it time to disarm him? Why wasn't disarming Suddam one if Bush's campaign issues? Suddam was doing the same things then that he is doing now. What has changed?

Bush has done a good job connecting 9/11 with Iraq dispite no such proof that Iraq was involved with 9/11. If anyone thought Iraq was remotely responsible for 9/11 we would have attack them immediately along with Afghanistan. Bush needed to connect 9/11 with Iraq because our Military is doing such a good job against the terriost of 9/11 that tensions in America was easing. Bush needs conflict to keep Americains focussed away from the things he has shown he can not fix or wants to deal with. Korea and our economy.

It seems that Son Bush picked up where Daddy Bush left of when it comes to our ecconomy. I remember Bush campaigning on an ecconomic platform. Tax cuts, tax rebates, ecconomic stimulus package. How has that worked? Most have forgotten the tax reabate we all got last year. Why doesn't anyone ask Bush about his ecconomic stimulus pakage and how it is not working. No one is thinking to ask about the economy or tax cuts because Bush has everyone focus on the impending War with Iraq. What about Korea who continues to experiment with nukes? Korea is a hell of a lot closer to having a weapon of mass distruction that could reach the west coast of the US and we have no idea how close they are. Unlike Iraq, we did not sell the weapon to the Koreans.

I am not completely anti Bush. He did handle the response to 9/11 perfectly. I believe if we need to go to War he would be a better leader than Clinton or Gore would of been. At this point no one in the world except for Bush and a few close friends thinks we should attack Iraq. The British are somewhat behind us but not completely. We can, and probably will, destroy Suddam and his supporters, but I wonder at what cost. Do we think that China and Russia is going to sit by while the US takes control of the Middle East. We already control Afghanistan, we take Iraq we have half of the region. What about the terriost who will use an attack on Iraq as fuel for thier derranged view on the US.

An attack on Iraq has nothing to do with disarming. If disarming Suddam was such a concern to the US it would not have taken 11 plus years to draw a line in the sand. The US knows what Iraq has and we have the technology and know how to make what ever they have obsolete. Iraq is not a threat to the US and Bush knows it. Our CIA can take Suddam out at any time amd could have over the last 11 years, but how would it look if the US went arround and openly assassinated leaders it did not like? Bush wants Suddam and Iraq because they are an easy target.

My view is not a liberal view or a consertative one. To label everyone that protest a war with Iraq a liberal and to say everyone that supports the war is a consertative is an easy way out of having to think through this issue completly. Why would anyone think that this issue fits so neatly as consertative vs Liberal.

I am one that believes at this point WAR with Iraq is not the answer. The US has more pressing issues than a surrounded, grounded, disfuctional crazy man and Bush knows it but he not telling.

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Beware of the Warmonger

by JLOB in

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there are people that can only function in conflict.

they do thier best work when there is chaos.

some of these leaders accomplish great things for thier nations, some only bring despair.

JLOB

Allow me to restart this post.

The point I was making and hoping that we can have some dialog on was the fact that I believe our president George Bush is a warmonger.

I believe this because he is acting alone in his persuit of Sadam. I believe he (George) is more concerned about etching his spot on history than he is with solving the real issues in Iraq.

I am not affraid of Iraq. Like mentioned in this post we the US have outstanding intelligence on Iraq. We know all that they have and all that they are capable of doing. We have the best military in the world with the highest technology known. We can hit the keyhole on a door from a plan thousands of feet in the air. No doubt we can stop Iraq from doing anything they set out to do, and Bush know this.

Is Bush so afraid that he feels that he needs to hit first? Our is he wanting a war to stamp his name on?

I am not anti Bush on all points I believe he handled the September 11 situation perfectly. The difference from the September 11 attack and a war on Iraq is international support. We have full international support on our war on terrorism. As soon as we start acting alone like a big bully in this world we run the risk of turning a little problem like Iraq into a major issue inwhich the US will face many nations. There is not 1 other nation that says we should attack Iraq yet Bush says we should.

Why?

I said before that I don't know all the answers when it comes to Iraq. I just believe that Bush is not the leader to make those decisions. He is quite different from his Dad. Daddy Bush had a majority support from the world and the US led a multinational force to liberate a nation. George W is acting alone.

I want everyone to think before we act. I want our president to explore peacefull resolution as well as military. I want a man who is sadden by death to make a decision about war. Not a man who seems to glorify in it.

I want us to have a discusion about War and Peace, not just war. I want us to think about it, to pray about it, to cry about it, to argue about it, to disagree about it. We should not move so quickly to war. That decision should come as a last resort. Not the first.

I want to hear your thoughts.

I will continue to pray for Peace and that as a nation we do what is right in GODs eyes not in mans.

JLOB

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Beware of the Warmonger

by JLOB in

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there are people that can only function in conflict.

they do thier best work when there is chaos.

some of these leaders accomplish great things for thier nations, some only bring despair.

JLOB

There are people that can only function in conflict. They do thier best work when there is chaos. Some of these leaders accomplish great things for thier nations, some only bring despair.

Leaders that manage by conflict seek confrontation with others. They constantly create an environment of divergence and seperation. They do not seek unification and peace.

Beware of this type of leader. Beware of the warmonger.

Bush is a Warmonger. He leads by conflict. He pefers to function in chaos.

I am not a Democrat or Replublican. Both party's have had both good and poor leaders.

Bush is not a good leader, not because he is replublican but because he is blood thirsty and not a man of peace.

Texas, while under the leadership of Bush, lead the nation in Death Penalty executions.

Bush does not hesitate to boast how some terroist have been killed. He glorifies in thought of death.

Bush is advocating WAR and more death.

I do not support terriost or Iraq, both should be dealt with as a matter of law. When a majority of the world agrees and a resolution is passed then it becomes a matter of law.

Bush has stated that he will not wait on a resolution, that the US will take matters into their own hands. What gives Bush the right to speak on behalf of a nation, a nation inwhich a majority of it citizen voted against him.

Bush wants to fight. Bush wants war. He has not clearly stated a case for an offensive move by the US. Every chance he gets he calls for WAR.

I pray everyday for our country, for our beloved military who will fight so gallantly if called upon.

I PRAY EVERYDAY FOR PEACE.

I do not discount the probable need to take action against a dictator like Sudam, I just question if a Warmonger and person who seeks chaos and conflict can be the leader we need to see us clearly through this situation. Our closest ally Britain and most other nations do not agree with war at this time, yet Bush pushes on.

All death comes with a price. Sometimes it is a price a nation must pay, sometimes it is a price too costly for the cause.

I do not know the answers to Iraq. I do know that I get an uneasy feeling with Bush calling the shots.

Once again I warn Beware of the Warmonger.

Pray for Peace

JLOB

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Some really fun optical illusions for you!

by Country Girl in

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enjoy!.

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabotage/optical_sabotage.asp.

country girl

JLOB

LOL. My kids came running into the computer room to see what it was.

JLOB

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The Real Me

by Satanus in

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i haven't shared much about myself.

sorry, no pics, but i will write a little bit about where i'm at and where i have been, so to speak.. i'm still working on finding myself, believe it or not.

my parents used heavy shame based discipline, as well as the physical stuff.

JLOB

SS,

I somewhat agree with INTRO. Blow your parents and how you were raised off. As adults we sooner or later have to break away from Mom and Dads influence, especialy if mom and dad were lousy parents. If you are aware of the error in the way you were raised then you are aware enough to put it behind you. Not everyone who has kids are cut out to be a great parent. Many people with kids are terrible parents. See your child for what it was, learn from it, and move on. You do not owe anyone anything. You do owe yourself, self respect and self love. I had a EVIL mom and will not go into the abuse I suffered. At this point I do not hold any grudges because long ago I basically took INTRO advice and told her to....Well you know. Now I am happy and living my life without her negative influence dragging me down.

It is not easy to follow INTRO advice but I do think he is on to something.

JLOB

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Help me Help a JW Friend

by JLOB in

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i am not jw nor have i ever been.

i do not know the ends and outs of the jw religion.

i have an employee who is jw.

JLOB

Scully & Heaven

I took both of your advice and spoke with my employee. I sugested to him that he contact our EAP and I shared my story about how I was depressed and felt gulty and all alone when I was recently divorced with a daughter and broken away from the Mormans. He recieved my counsil well, however he said that he didn't think the EAP couselers could help. He said that he needed to get right with God and that maybe the elders from his Kingdom Hall could help. He said that it was hard for him to go to the Kingdom Hall because his ex-wife was telling everyone about him and that he felt very uncomfortable. He said that his belief was still strong and that he would find away to work things out with God and through God. That was not good news to me. I wanted to tell him so bad how I felt. I wanted to tell him that they only way he was going to find the real God was to break away from the JW. I rembered what some of you said about being apostate so I listen and was careful about what I said. I think he is going to try to find away to sort things out within JW. He is not going to seek profesional help. I do believe that he saw my concern and I feel I opened a door for him to use when he needed support. I told him that I would continue to pray for him and that I would be there for him whenever he needed someone to talk to. He also told me that another employee of mine who is also JW is constantly on him about getting back to church. Both of my employes work right next to each other so I am sure that he is having to face JW control everyday at work. As his manger all I can do is secretly pray and be available to him. I feel in the end he is going to end up back in the Kingdom Hall, back under JW control, and remain depressed. Hopefuly I am wrong.

Thanks for allof your thoughts, prayers, and comments.

JLOB

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Help me Help a JW Friend

by JLOB in

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i am not jw nor have i ever been.

i do not know the ends and outs of the jw religion.

i have an employee who is jw.

JLOB

Scully-

Thanks for your advice. I think refering him to EAP is an excellent idea. I work for a large corporation and we have outstanding benifits one of which is our EAP. I guess I was to close to the situation to see the signs of depression. Now that I have read your post it is clear to me that EAP is his best move. He trust me that I know because he shared his mariage problems with me before he got his divorce. If I can convince him to see a professional he will get the coaching and advice he needs.

Thanks XW for being there.

Heaven-

I do realize some of the trauma that results from breaking away from a controlling religion like the mormans, maybe that's why I have taken his situation so personal. Maybe I will share with him my story and see how he responds. If he is curious about my story mabe it will open doors to him sharing his situation. He needs to know that he is not alone dealing with divorce, fatherhood, and a controlling relgion. I can totally relate. Thanks for your feedback.

To everyone else that has posted Thank You and please share this story with others, I am open to hear what many others like yourselfs have to say. I can learn alot from you all.

Much Appreciation

JLOB