Posts by happyout

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Do we suck in JW's unawares?

by jgnat in

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by title of this forum: jehovahs-witness.com, and the open registration: ...everyone welcome!

do we suck in jehovah's witnesses unawares?

by its ip address alone, are we being deceptive?.

To me, those who are on the web searching for JW web sites are likely on the fringe, possibly looking to leave. After all, they are told rather frequently that they should stay away from the web, so they are already breaking an "rule" .

I knew immediately just by the title of some of the threads, and if someone doesn't know what they are getting themselves into, it's pretty stupid to sign up for the site, don't you think?

Must have been Satan disguising himself as an angel of light.

Happyout (laughingly)

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All-time Worst Movie Sequels

by teejay in

e-online recently compiled

no question about it ... there have been some stinkers.

here's e-online's list.

happyout

This wasn't really a sequel, but a remake, and it was hands down the worst movie I have EVER seen:

The Mod Squad

(with Claire Danes, Omar Epps, and Giovanni Ribisi).

In the middle of the movie, I actually said out loud "Oh my God, I can't believe I'm still watching this" and the entire audience (what there was of it) laughed and agreed.

MIB2 was also a disappointment, as was Speed2.

Happyout

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What can I expect??

by Bona Dea in

my husband is getting baptized in 3 weeks.

i have had some tell me to expect some big changes.

as of now, i am agnostic...probably will be for the rest of my life.

happyout

Hi, Bona Dea,

Im sorry to hear you are being manipulated in such a callous manner, especially when you are grieving.Unfortunately, many JWs view a death in the family as prime time to convert those who are grieving, so this may be his way of "shocking" you into becoming a JW. No one can make the decision for you, but, I think if you read some of the posts here, you will learn how difficult it is to maintain a happy marriage when one is a JW and their spouse is not. I have heard rumours (unconfirmed) that some JWs have talked their "worldly" mates into having an affair, to give the JW grounds for divorce. If it were me, I would leave, if only to protect my children. Imagine if one of them has an accident, and your JW husband gets to the hospital before you, and refuses to allow a blood transfusion. Your child could die for your husband's religion, and there would be nothing you could do about it.

However, marriage is very serious, and sacred, so I would not walk away from it lightly. Try setting written boundaries (no put downs of your lack of a religion, the children won't be made to follow the JWs, the children are allowed to receive blood transfusions) and see if that will work.

Happyout (wishing you the best of luck)

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Young People Ask articles

by Nosferatu in

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what are some of the worst ypa articles the wt could print in the awake?

(ie young people ask: how do you use a tampon?

)

happyout

How do I know if I should marry someone if I've never been alone with them (unchaperoned)?

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Why dont you leave....?

by anotheropenviewpoint in

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i have been reading quite a few of these threads and post and through it i feel as though i have come to know some of you and your behaviors.. i notice that there are many of you who are still associated with the hall, and have not left yet... yet, bring up very "strong" points on the board.. i have a question for all of you who fit this description.... why dont you just 'effin leave already?

whats holding you back?

if you feel soooo strongly that this is "wrong" are you too chicken to state your opinion to a family member?

happyout

Risot,

Wow, your message was very enlightening. I feel for what you are dealing with. I have often said that if I were allowed to have my own opinions without being "marked" or disfellowshipped, I may not have left the org. I think it takes a lot of strength to stay in and try to change, especially in an organization like the WTS. Good luck to you and others like you.

AOVP,

I hope you don't leave the board. It's just like any new relationship, you have to get used to us and we have to get used to you. If you try to write just a little less antagonistically, you'll be fine. So far you have asked at least two very thought provoking questions, and I enjoyed a lot of the responses. It's often harder to write to a group of people than to speak to them, because what you write cannot be added into your body language, facial expression, etc. I don't think you have intentionally been rude (except maybe when you felt people were jumping on you), but it can be hard to know how you come across to others unless someone tell you.

So, stay and play a while, we're really a great group.

Happyout

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Neighbors just left for Convention

by wasasister in

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friends: .

it's an absolutely flawless day here in the pacific northwest.

not a cloud in the sky, light breeze, afternoon highs to reach 80 f. we take our share of deserved jabs about our bad weather, but when it's good here, it's very, very good.

happyout

Hey, Wasa,

It sounds like you have had the perfect morning. I'm not really jealous ( ok, sometimes I lie). But, I sometimes get the same peaceful feeling at a family gathering when one my siblings and their family has to run out and go to their meeting. Right in the middle of all the fun!

I can't imagine giving up so much of my time for anything that did not pay me.

Have a great rest of the day,

Happyout (dreaming of relaxing with a Caramel Macchioto)

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Wish me luck!!

by StinkyPantz in

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friends

in a few days, i will be making my move from kansas to florida!!

i'm really anxious about the whole thing.

i've never lived anywhere but kansas so this whole is unreal for me.

happyout

Hey, SP,

Good luck, happy traveling, and enjoy your new home. Too bad you won't be anywhere near So Cal, I would have loved to hook up with you.

Happyout

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Through everything... do you feel that you learned soemthing?

by anotheropenviewpoint in

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i am new to the board and have read countless gripes and pokes at "the organization" but i fail to find one interesting question.. in preface... i was disfellowshiped myself over 5 years ago.

in that time, i had done much searching, visited many churches and faithes.. going to some for as short as one session and some as long as 6 - 8 months.

after i felt my search was in vein i stopped attempting to go to these shurches all together.. i never forgot how to pray through.

happyout

Logansrun,

Actually, I despise "trolls" or people who appear to be trolls like SOJ, but Anotheropenviewpoint appears to be asking a legitimate question. I have also found that there are some exJWs who refuse to believe that they learned anything good from the WTS, and while that may be their experience, it's not mine. I have no problem seeing the "good" things that I learned, but I would never go back because all the good was way outshined by the bad.

I also think it's good to have people who have diverse opinions and can express them intelligently and without rancor. This person appears to be able to do that, and I actually look forward to seeing what else they have to offer.

Happyout

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Were you married at the Kingdom Hall ? How bad was your wedding reception ?

by run dont walk in

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i'm just wondering...... i remember going to some wedding receptions for couples who got married at the kingdom hall,.

and i hate to be mean but, super boring, and bad, how bad you ask ??

ok here we go ..... - the worst had to be one couple played kingdom meolodies for their wedding dances, i couldn't believe it.. - no alcohol (i'm sure we all experienced a few of these), reception was over by 9:30.. - no music at all, just a gathering of people, and they ended the reception with a prayer, i thought i was at an assembly.. - food, like if you can't afford to get married don't, like frozen stuff bought at your local grocery store, and still in the package when you got up to the tables, how tacky.. - you could always tell a couple who couldn't afford much, when you had to drive 50 miles into the back woods to find some dinky little community hall they rented for $100.. - i remember one where the bride was pregnant, i was really surprised they allowed them to use the kingdom hall.. - another classic was, they had this band (of all jw's of course) and man they were bad.

happyout

My sisters were both married in a KH, and their weddings were loads of fun. The talks were personalized (at least from what I remember) and weren't overly long. The receptions were at halls, the food was great, and there was dancing.

I got married at a civic auditorium, in an atrium. It was beautiful, marred only by my family's inability to participate. Since I was marrying a "worldy" guy, and a baptist minister was performing the ceremony, they were not "allowed" to participate. Unfortunately, they did not know this until about a month before the wedding, when an elder in one sister's congregation told them her husband would be deleted as an elder for allowing his wife to participate in a baptist wedding. It was horrible, I cried for days and days, but in the end it worked out ok. They were there, they supported me, and we had a really good time.

There was no alcohol at any of the weddings, only because we have relatives with severe drinking problems, and did not want to have to call the police to break up the ensuing fights. No exaggeration, it has happened at many family gatherings.

I have been to a lot of other JW weddings, and always had fun. I wonder if it's a regional thing? In So. Cal, there was always dancing.

Happyout

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Through everything... do you feel that you learned soemthing?

by anotheropenviewpoint in

jw
friends

i am new to the board and have read countless gripes and pokes at "the organization" but i fail to find one interesting question.. in preface... i was disfellowshiped myself over 5 years ago.

in that time, i had done much searching, visited many churches and faithes.. going to some for as short as one session and some as long as 6 - 8 months.

after i felt my search was in vein i stopped attempting to go to these shurches all together.. i never forgot how to pray through.

happyout

I learned that it is dangerous to follow someone else's beliefs just because they claimed to be from God.

I also learned to be an honest person, to respect my parents, and to love my fellow humans. My expression of that love differs from what the WTS teaches, but, so what.

I learned that I MUST have my own relationship with God, unbiased by what others believe.

I learned that even the most intelligent people can be brainwashed.

I am unsure what your motivation is in posting, and, of course, there is no need for you to explain it to me. I just wanted to point out to you that it's a bit disconcerting for you to go off on tirades about the WTS and imply that those of us who vehemently disagree with them and their teachings are "whining" and talking about "emotional crap". There are many, many people on this board who have been deeply hurt by the actions of the WTS, and this board is a place of comfort for them. Please, feel free to disagree (we love an animated discussion), just please respect the feelings of others.

Again, welcome to the board, you certainly have "stirred the pot" as you intended.

Happyout