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  "Welcome" message wording on .com site

  by JustMe2 in

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  it's certainly true that the site is "friendly" and "informative".

  i'm concerned about the word "tolerant", however, because some posts can be very blunt and outspoken, and newcomers might not be expecting them to be that way.

  perhaps it would be well to add something along the lines of "spirited" or "straightforward" discussion in the welcome message, so newbies won't be surprised and possibly turned off before they see all the site has to offer..

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  It's certainly true that the site is "friendly" and "informative". I'm concerned about the word "tolerant", however, because some posts can be very blunt and outspoken, and newcomers might not be expecting them to be that way. Perhaps it would be well to add something along the lines of "spirited" or "straightforward" discussion in the welcome message, so newbies won't be surprised and possibly turned off before they see all the site has to offer.
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  Your views and ideas on forum areas and organization?

  by Simon in

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  this may come as a shock to some people, but the current forum structure was kind of thrown together without much real thought and then evolved a bit over time.

  there are a few things that particularly grate on me and areas where i don't think the subjects work particularly well.

  'friends' is a bit vague and becomes a dumping ground, news & world events vs politics & current affairs is hard to decide sometimes, child abuse is a scandal but isn't contained withing 'scandals & coverups' etc.... with a new forum platform imminent, it's a good time to solicit ideas to improve things.

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  JustMe2

  Simon,

  How about moving "Discuss anything Jehovahs Witness or WatchTower society related" from "Friends"? And maybe make it more specific to differentiate it from "Bible Research and Study Articles" and "Beliefs, Doctrines & Practices."

  Separate "Personal Experiences" from "Reunions." Perhaps include experiences from newbies with others' experiences, or have it a subcategory. (I'm a near-newbie myself: MAYBE someday I'll actually write my own experience!)

  Thanks for all your hard work.
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  My mother continues with these creepy letters

  by sosoconfused in

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  as i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.

  however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.

  evening <name removed>,.

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  The book The Dance of Anger: A Woman's Guide to Changing the Patterns of Intimate Relationships, by Harriet Lerner, might be of help to you. (It's not just for women!) One Amazon reviewer says, "She [Lerner] compassionately and wisely shows how to disengage from the anger and the counter-productive patterns, while staying connected and acting with integrity. However, she also acknowledges the effect that this sort of change can have on other people in the dance, and she provides guidance in maintaining oneself in the face of countermoves." It might very well fit your situation and be of assistance to you as you're endeavoring to cope. It's definitely worth taking a look at. I'm sorry for all you're going through.
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  Pedophile Elder Case in Warrensburg, NY 1982 - Nicholson

  by Seeker4 in

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  i just came across a thread from 2002, (i'll link it here in the next post), about congregations in upstate ny, many that were with a vt circuit i was in for many years.

  in there i wrote the following about a infamous pedophile case involving an elder, don nicholson.

  here was part of one of my posts on that thread.

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  Obviously, I didn't mean that the death of Jack Ashenback and the plane crash victims were minor details.

  Also, I have no idea what Don Nicholson's current status within the congregation is.
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  Pedophile Elder Case in Warrensburg, NY 1982 - Nicholson

  by Seeker4 in

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  i just came across a thread from 2002, (i'll link it here in the next post), about congregations in upstate ny, many that were with a vt circuit i was in for many years.

  in there i wrote the following about a infamous pedophile case involving an elder, don nicholson.

  here was part of one of my posts on that thread.

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  Also, it was because Lee Steele was a retired state trooper that he insisted on pressing charges against Don Nicholson.
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  upstate New York

  by bonnie38 in

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  is anyone from upstate new york?

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  When I made the last post, I forgot that it would be at the end of the thread and not right after the post I was reading. The post referring to Don Nicholson concerns his disfellowshipping and arrest for pedophilia in 1982. He was disfellowshipped from the congregation in Warrensburg, NY. Lee Steele was the elder whose family members were molested by Nicholson. It was because Steele was a retired state trooper that he insisted on pressing charges against Nicholson.
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  Electronic Radio Biola sold in Awake! magazine for $465 each

  by Calebs Airplane in

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  well, it was actually $35 usd each, but i adjusted for today's purchasing power of us currency.

  see these interesting articles on the most bizarre medical equipment sales scam of all time.... http://www.seanet.com/~raines/biola.html.

  http://www.seanet.com/~raines/abrams.html.

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  There was an article in Awake! (probably late '80s or early '90s) warning people to be cautious about extreme alternative medicine treatments. I THINK that it was in that same article that a statement was made to the effect that rather than turn to worldy books for information about medical treatment, which might end up being useless or dangerous, it's better to go to Awake! for information. Could somebody see if they can find the actual quote? Thanks!
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  Pedophile Elder Case in Warrensburg, NY 1982 - Nicholson

  by Seeker4 in

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  2. child-abuse

  i just came across a thread from 2002, (i'll link it here in the next post), about congregations in upstate ny, many that were with a vt circuit i was in for many years.

  in there i wrote the following about a infamous pedophile case involving an elder, don nicholson.

  here was part of one of my posts on that thread.

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  Some minor (and very late!) details: Don Nicholson wasn't related to David Tennent. Don's brother was Richard Nicholson. David's brother-in-law was Jack Ashenback, who I heard died recently. It was David's son and pregnant daughter-in-law, not the other way around, who died in the plane crash. Elaine Tennent is no longer a Witness.

  Don Nicholson was reinstated, in another congregation, a number of years ago. As far as I know, he is still a Witness.
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  upstate New York

  by bonnie38 in

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  is anyone from upstate new york?

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  I know this is an old post, but in I wanted to re-emphasize: It was Don Nicholson who was the child molester. Lee Steele was an elder whose family members were molested by Nicholson. It was their testimony that led Nicholson to plead guilty and serve time in prison. David Tennent was also supposed to testify but was killed before the case went to court. Another elder did testify.

  Also, Don and David weren't brothers-in-law. Don and Richard Nicholson were brothers. David's brother-in-law was Jack Ashenback, who I heard died recently.
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  payback? bitterly upset....

  by losingit in

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  i don't even know where to start.. more than anything, i'd like to say that i am not a woman of vengeance.

  i am very much a forgiving person.

  if you say "i'm sorry," and you're genuine, i can move on from it quickly and easily.

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  LostGeneration: "Throw their song books away...."

  losingit: "I am throwing away all the literature the next time he has them."

  If you decide to pursue reinstatement, would this be wise? If someone finds out (for example if your children tell their father), it seems likely that the fact you no longer have the Society's literature in your home could be used against you.

  Otherwise, it's perfectly understandable that you want to get rid of the literature, but does any of it belong to your children? If it does, would they be very upset if you threw it away, especially without discussing it with them ahead of time? We know how some children react when their parent simply GIVES away a toy they haven't even thought about in years. How distressing it might be for your children if you throw away books they still use and think of as part of their worship of Jehovah.

  Also, although I have no experience with custody hearings, I can imagine the opposing lawyer saying, "And, Judge, she even destroyed what didn't belong to her, her children's cherished song books, and broke their little hearts."

  Perhaps you could leave just THEIR literature at your house--while providing plenty of alternative reading material, of course! Or maybe you could explain that you would like them to keep their literature at their father's house from now on. Either way, you'd be showing respect for them and their belongings, as well as recognizing their beliefs even though not agreeing with them.

  Maybe none of this is an issue for you and your children, but I'd rather be safe than sorry!

  I'm so sorry for all you're going through and hope you can find peace and relief from the stress you're under. Know that many people are thinking of you and wishing you and your children well.