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  Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  earlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.

  wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!

  good effort, jw organization!

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  JustMe2

  The 1981 Yearbook, pp. 31-32, states that Jehovah's Witnesses made "steady progress" in the years from 1974-1980 and it was only the number of Memorial partakers that decreased. Their chart, however, shows that in the years following 1975 there was a decrease in the average number of publishers, pioneers, and hours spent in the ministry. It was only after 2 or 3 years of decrease that the numbers started increasing again.

  This claim of steady increase that was belied by the Yearbook's own chart upset me in 1981, and I've remembered it to this day. It seemed as though the Society were trying to get us to not actually see what the evidence showed and instead to take it for granted that it backed up their claims.
  

  I was unable to reproduce the graph here. It can be found at http://www.watchtowerwayback.org/jw-wb/English/Books/Yearbooks/1981%20Yearbook%20(yb81-E).pdf.

  Thanks again to OrphanCrow for the link.
  
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  Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  earlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.

  wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!

  good effort, jw organization!

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  JustMe2

  Orphan Crow,

  Thanks!
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  Things society interferes with

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just lying here thinking about mind control and thought it'd write a list just to see how much the wts does try to control every aspect of people's lives.

  some of the things i've come up with are:.

  xmas,.

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  JustMe2

  "My mother in law puts a napkin on her head when praying at meal times...."

  Women should not use a napkin as a head covering when praying. They should have a scarf, hat, etc., available.
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  Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  earlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.

  wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!

  good effort, jw organization!

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  JustMe2

  If I remember correctly, in a yearbook published in the late '70s or early '80s was a chart showing the number of publishers for the previous several years. I think it showed a decrease for the years following 1975, finally followed by an increase.

  I believe, however, the caption said there had been a steady increase, which claim wasn't supported by the chart. It bothered me that the yearbook appeared to be twisting the facts, trying to give the impression that the disappointments concerning 1975 had not caused a decline in publishers.

  Is there anyone with access to the old yearbooks who could check this out?

  Thanks!
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  At the annual meeting right now . . .

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm at the recorded meeting right now.

  trying to hide my disgust sitting up front listening to geoffrey jackson quibble about the pharisaical minutai of sanctification vs. vindication.

  the audience is thrilled that they now have 'permission' to say god's name can be vindicated.

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  pale.emperor:

  Years and years ago, we would say that God's name would be vindicated. Then we were taught that, no, we shouldn't say that. Instead, God's name would be sanctified and his sovereignty vindicated.
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  You're welcome ...

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i figured i'd shut the site down for a couple of hours to encourage everyone to do their xmas shopping.

  the error message was a subtle hint, that's what "500 error" means ... go shopping.. whatever rumours you hear, it definitely wasn't that someone deployed a quick update before going on a 1.5 hour car ride to pick someone up and didn't think that the page they tested, to check it was all working after the update, happened to be cached.

  no siree bob, not that, na hah.. anyway, you're welcome for the extra chance to, erm, shop..

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  You're so thoughtful!
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  Living with Your Parents Well Into Adulthood the Norm?

  by Sorry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i don't want to seem like a jerk.

  i know full well economic times are not the greatest.

  there's no shame in struggling and staying with your family until you're back on your feet.

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  I think it was an assembly talk years ago that specifically discouraged single Witnesses from moving out of the family home unless they were doing it for spiritual reasons, for example moving where the need was greater. And, IF I remember correctly, they may have been encouraged to share a place with someone who would be spiritually upbuilding rather than living alone. Does anyone remember anything similar being brought out?
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  Sunday's WT...funny, but sad for Dubs...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  despite my often smart-ass exterior, i really don't have any desire to see the r&f dubs suffering.

  i really do worry about the mental and emotional turmoil that they will experience, if and when the wtbts is truly exposed as a scam.

  i know it seems unlikely to happen, but you never know..... anyway, the wt for the week was cringe-worthy to say the least.

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  JustMe2

  I haven't read the actual paragraph, but it sounds to me as if the illustration of the ball on the table was not meant to prove that the earth hangs upon nothing but instead is trying to show "how difficult it would be to convince someone that the Earth 'hangs upon nothing'", thus making it seem unlikely that ancient people would have figured it out on their own.
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  JW.org Caption Competition

  by pale.emperor in

  1. social
  2. humour

  your challenge, if you choose to accept it, is to go onto jw.org.

  take one of their pics from any publication and add your own speech bubbles or caption.. here's mine.

  picture taken from the watchtower feb 2017.. .

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  JustMe2

  pale.emperor,

  I'm afraid I can't read your post's captions on my phone. Could you possibly use a different font? Or could someone copy what they say? Thanks!
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  The Anointed Class: Do They Have Spirits?

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. beliefs

  i realize that the anointed class inherits heaven while the great crowd inherits a renewed planet earth, but how and when are the anointed chosen?

  are these people born with spirits or do they grow them as they live?

  when they die, they don't sleep but go right to heaven, right?

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  JustMe2

  The Society teaches that when the anointed die, they are resurrected as spirit creatures. (They teach that the spirit that all people have is the breath of life, which is impersonal.)