inherently a flawed and pointless confrontation....
Well, you got part of what you thought this thread would be about right. ;)
Jackie
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It's only a fight if he has a chance to win...
by notverylikely insince he doesn't, it's just entertainment and a bare minimum of mental stretching for me :).
lock away, i'll be good now..
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"Shadenfreude" is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others
by artemis.design ini have only resently come across his german loanword, but it has become my new favourite word.
we don't have an english equvalent, but it sums up so joyously what i feel everytime i hear some misfortune regarding jw organisation.. am i bitter & twisted???
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The Gargoyle by Andrew Davidson has a great line using that word...
"Dawn was breaking when Agletrudis appeared at Engelthal's gate, wearing a smile so thick with Schadenfreude that it seemed impossible it could fit on a nun's face." Andrew Davidson, The Gargoyle. It is an excellent book, though a bit dark, if you ever have the chance to read it.
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Mistresses??
by diana netherton inwhat are your thoughts on them?
would i be a simply terrible person if i became one?.
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Here's the thing... I've played with married men, but their wives knew about it and were okay with it. I wouldn't do so if she was not both aware of and okay with it because it is not an open relationship that I find offensive, but deceit. However, that is *my* morality. You are the only person who can define yours and, honestly, I don't feel much need to judge you whatever it is you decide. You asked for my opinion and I offered it: You are the one who has to make this decision, make certain it is one you can live with happily. And you are the only one who can know whether or not you can live with this decision happily. I couldn't do it. Perhaps you can, I don't know. But you're an adult and it's your decision either way.
Understand, though, when you post something controversial of this nature some of the people who respond are going to have emotional responses to what you are asking. Either because they are a wife and sympathize with her, or because they have been touched by infidelity in their lives themselves, because their morality objects to it or because they feel it dehumanizes you and don't wish to see you do that. You can't post a subject like this and think you will not get some harsh reactions on both sides of the fence.
Best of luck in your choices, decisions, and life.
Jackie
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Mistresses??
by diana netherton inwhat are your thoughts on them?
would i be a simply terrible person if i became one?.
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lol I have to say, Mistress has a completely different definition to me. And it's a definition that works for me.
1.awomanwhohasauthority,control,orpower,esp.thefemaleheadofahousehold,institution,orotherestablishment. 2. awomanemploying,orinauthorityover,servantsorattendants. 3. afemaleownerofananimal,orformerly,aslave. 4. awomanwhohasthepowerofcontrollingordisposingofsomethingatherownpleasure:mistressofagreatfortune. 5. ( sometimesinitialcapitalletter
Yes... definitely works for me and my interests... but to the topic at hand, no one can define for you what you will or will not be okay with. I would not recommend it, but in the end the decision is yours. Make certain it is one you can live with happily. Jackie) somethingregardedasfemininethathascontrolorsupremacy:GreatBritain,themistressoftheseas. -
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Excellent YouTube video for those raised in JW home (or any dogmatic faith)
by SweetBabyCheezits inthere are some really intelligent videos from users, qualiasoup, and his brother, theramintrees, on youtube.
this one tells an analogous story that deals with being raised in a religiously dogmatic household..... http://www.youtube.com/user/theramintrees#p/u/0/kaiprrzvnjg.
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Two questions for you
by asilentone ina. do you try to "witness" to current jw's as much as possible?.
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b. do you just let them find out for themselves on the internet?.
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Hi, MMXIV,
Thanks for telling me how the tactic worked for you... I have to say, sometimes it is tough so it's good to hear that someone had positive results with it. My nephew is 6 and has just recently started telling me about all of Jehovah's rules and what Jehovah loves and what he doesn't love. I find it so hard not to say anything to my sister about how disturbing it is that a six year old would spout things like this the way he does. I took him to Six Flags a few weeks ago and every ride we went on he asked me if Jehovah made it. So I talked to him about the workers that built the roller coasters and what different machines and tools they might need to build such a thing. I wanted to beat my head into a wall... but, I will be a part of his life come hell or high water. ;)
Jackie
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Two questions for you
by asilentone ina. do you try to "witness" to current jw's as much as possible?.
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I expect witnesses to respect my right to believe what I believe. I, therefore, offer them the same respect. Now, if they come preaching to me trying to convert me I tell them I'm not interested. If they push beyond that I'm pretty much of the opinion that they've opened the door to hear what I have to say themselves.
Where my family is concerned I don't push with my Dad because I think he needs this in his life. I think he would be lost without it. He's a smart guy, really, and if he wanted to see through it he would. He doesn't want to so he doesn't. His life, his choice, I accept it as I expect him to accept mine.
With my sister and my nephew I don't push because of a conversation between my mom and a counselor when my sister was a teenager. My dad had threatened to commit suicide because he was disfellowshipped and couldn't get reinstated. I put him in the hospital against his will. My parents were divorced and my sister was living with my dad. Since she was a minor I picked her up and brought her back to my mom's house. Well, the whole suicide threat was the final straw to my mom being convinced that this was a cult and she needed to get her daughter away from it immediately. She told my sister that as long as she was living there she would not be allowed to attend meetings, do field service, or any 'theocratic activities' whatsoever of any kind. My sister threatened my mom and said she would run away and hide with witness families if my mom didn't let her go to the kingdom hall. She said she would move from family to family so my mom couldn't find her. They were in the car as they had this fight and my mom will tell you that the only reason she didn't drive 1000 miles and take my sister to live far away where she would never see my dad or the witnesses again is because she had 3 other kids at home. So she decided instead to strike a bargain: she would allow my sister to go to the meetings as long as my sister agreed to see a counselor.
So my sister agrees and my mom makes the appointment. Before my sister's session the counselor asked to speak with my mom privately and my mom told this counselor how the witnesses were a cult and she needed to get her out of it and on and on. Arguably my mom was pretty distraught at the time and probably did not present her case in the best light. The counselor told my mom she would be happy to talk to my sister but said that she had never heard such a thing about the witnesses before and that my mom was completely over-reacting. Then she talked to my sister without my mom present. Afterwards the counselor spoke with my mom privately again and told her that just speaking with her for 45 minutes she could tell that, yes, it was a cult and my sister was deeply immersed in it. She knew that as soon as my dad got out of the hospital that she wouldn't be allowed to see my sister any longer so she wanted to give my mom some advice. The counselor told my mom that she could not get my sister out. My sister had to want it on her own and at this point she was not ready to let it go. The counselor said that anything my mom did to try to dissuade my sister from the witnesses would alienate her and drive her further in. Her best advice was to be non-confrontational and to do the best job possible to stay a part of my sister's life so that if my sister ever *did* decide she wanted out she would have a lifeline to grab onto.
And so that is my guiding factor. I used to do it so that if my sister ever wanted out I would be there. I now do it because I need to be a part of my nephew's life. I can't change the way he is being raised, but I can make sure I'm a part of his life and that he loves me so that if he ever decides he wants out he has someone to turn to. If I push I know my sister will balk which would mean less contact with her and my nephew. That is not an acceptable option, I need to be a part of his life in case he ever wants out. If that means I swallow blood every now and again from biting my tongue then it's a price I'm willing to pay.
I will say, though, that there are some subtle things I do... my nephew loves dinosaurs and nature. Under the guise of being a good aunt I have bought him every fact book about dinosaurs that I can lay hands on. My sister and brother in law think it's awesome that I spoil him and treat him no differently than my other nieces and nephews despite our differences in beliefs. My nephew thinks I'm an awesome aunt and loves me for it. And I know that I have given him something that might, one day, make him think while being a good aunt, spoiling him, and giving him something he truly wants. So, you know, there is that, anyway. ;)
Jackie
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Imperial stormtroopers invade subway!
by BurnTheShips inthis is funny.
i guess these people must not have jobs!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5gcewegiqi.
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A riddle my brother gave me today
by bohm ina man has 2 children.
he tells you one is a boy born on a tuesday.
what is the probability the other is a boy to?.
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:::chuckling::: I would stay and debate with you, but I'm leaving for work. Let me leave you with this: I majored in math and took many statistics and probabilities classes. In addition, I work in a casino where every day I work with probabilities. You can believe whatever you will, but my answer is correct. Ask a statistics professor and I would bet you that he gives you the same answer that I did.
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A riddle my brother gave me today
by bohm ina man has 2 children.
he tells you one is a boy born on a tuesday.
what is the probability the other is a boy to?.
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The probability of 2 things being something is the probability of 1 times the probability of the other... so if you have 2 children and you don't know the gender of either the probability of both is 1 in 4. 1/2 * 1/2.
However, in the scenario you provided we already know the gender of one of the children as being a boy. So the probability of *that* child being a boy is 1/1 because we already know. So the probability of both children being boys becomes 1/1 * 1/2 = 1/2 or 50%.
Already knowing the gender of one child effects the equation and the probability, and most people fall into the trap of thinking it doesn't have any effect on the numbers at all. In the scenario you provided there is a 1 in 2 shot of the unknown child being a boy. A 50/50 chance. 50%. I hope that makes sense.
Jackie
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