Posts by Gary1914

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Ex-elders: did you ever confront anyone on FAKE HOURS

by Quotes in

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a few recent threads have been about faking hours in field service reports (for example, this one: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/72429/1.ashx).

a number of posters said they would never actually go in service, but still magically get in their hours each month.

my question to you ex-elders: did you ever confront someone on this?

Gary1914

This topic is right up my alley. I never thought I would actually adit this this.

I have been faking my hours for years. I even pretend to be a full time pioneer. It's not hard. I meet the group a few times a week and then go off on my "bible studies" and "return visits".

I even sleep in on the weekends. After all, I have been out all week I need time to study, pray and ponder. (HBO ON demand!)

I am a paragon of spirituality in my congregation. I have not actually been out in service for more than a hour or two a month for years.

I don't want to lose my family and friends and I sure as hell don't want to be an advocate for the malarky that this organization is putting out. So I just go alone and make up stuff. Experiences, bible studies and all the rest of it.

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E-WATCHMAN LETTER - WHY NOT SELL IT AS AN ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION ON EBAY?

by Gary1914 in

i don't get to post much here but i read this board whenever i can.. anyway, in reference to the fabulous e-watchman letter rearding the watchtower's association with the un as an ngo, why not offer the information electronically on ebay.

no stamps, no mailings and it could be held as a private auction so that identities could be protected.

it could be listed as a multiple item auction thus saving money on listing costs and the cost for the information could be minimal, say 10 or 20 cents.. ebay has a worldwide audience in excess of 50 million people and there are many elders and pioneers who sell merchandise there in an effort to supplement their income.

Gary1914

I think it would be a good idea to use Watchman's letter in the body of the auction and then offer the related sources fo a small price. We have to charge something because of Ebay's rules.

I do not think it is against any law to offer something for a price that a person could find on the net for free. Besides, a witness would not go on the internet to search for this information. But he may stop to read an Ebay auction.

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E-WATCHMAN LETTER - WHY NOT SELL IT AS AN ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION ON EBAY?

by Gary1914 in

i don't get to post much here but i read this board whenever i can.. anyway, in reference to the fabulous e-watchman letter rearding the watchtower's association with the un as an ngo, why not offer the information electronically on ebay.

no stamps, no mailings and it could be held as a private auction so that identities could be protected.

it could be listed as a multiple item auction thus saving money on listing costs and the cost for the information could be minimal, say 10 or 20 cents.. ebay has a worldwide audience in excess of 50 million people and there are many elders and pioneers who sell merchandise there in an effort to supplement their income.

Gary1914

Hello Everyone. I don't get to post much here but I read this board whenever I can.

Anyway, in reference to the fabulous E-Watchman letter rearding the Watchtower's association with the UN as an NGO, why not offer the information electronically on Ebay. No stamps, no mailings and it could be held as a Private Auction so that identities could be protected. It could be listed as a multiple item auction thus saving money on listing costs and the cost for the information could be minimal, say 10 or 20 cents.

Ebay has a worldwide audience in excess of 50 million people and there are many elders and pioneers who sell merchandise there in an effort to supplement their income. Also, many witnesses come there to shop and the word "WATCHTOWER" in the heading always draws them. The many witnesses who are wondering what the UN whispers are all about could then have the information emailed to them at no risk to their congregation status. I would list it under books in the same category that the Watchtower books that are bought and sold.

Just a thought.

Wishing you all a Happy Easter.

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I need a long break

by StinkyPantz in

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it seems like i continue to piss people off around here.

this new year has ushered in a nice lil brand of hatred for stinkypantz.

francois wont let a stupid argument die.

Gary1914

Wow, Stinky's husband, I am impressed. Good for you!!!

I just want to add that while Francois rants and raves and refers to Stinky n the most derragatory way, he calls Stinky's attitude "bad". But then all blacks have "bad attitudes" don't they Francois?

Edited by - Gary1914 on 14 February 2003 16:56:16

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I need a long break

by StinkyPantz in

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it seems like i continue to piss people off around here.

this new year has ushered in a nice lil brand of hatred for stinkypantz.

francois wont let a stupid argument die.

Gary1914

Frank, you're a dick. You really are

I heartily concur. I would only add that it is obvious that he is an angry one at that.

Stinky, I would just consider the source.

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Stinky?

by Francois in

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obviously i'm back from my general initiation and orientation into grandpappyhood.

although things are kinda hazy due to all the excitement, i do remember charges and speculations of some very dubious nature attributed to me prior to my taking off for the other side of the state (georgia).

most of these charges were made by semi-, or ill-informed people who were mere bystanders to the central misunderstanding which - i'm afraid - was between you and i.. i certainly don't like having the pall of the haze of misunderstanding continuing to be associated with me after being on this board for so long and that in general a very positive presence, and i'd like to respond to whatever dangling strings there are, and i feel sure there are some.

Gary1914

And all you kind folk who hung out just to add fuel to the flames. You need treatment at the nearest vegetable stand. They know all about cabbage heads there. Piss off. You're now turned off.

Aminal need not be concerned with the statements shown above. Francois only attacks those that do not follow his instructions or do not agree with his comments.

By the way, the intent was not the "fuel the flames" but to give Stinky support after your barrage of unprovoked insults.

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Stinky?

by Francois in

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obviously i'm back from my general initiation and orientation into grandpappyhood.

although things are kinda hazy due to all the excitement, i do remember charges and speculations of some very dubious nature attributed to me prior to my taking off for the other side of the state (georgia).

most of these charges were made by semi-, or ill-informed people who were mere bystanders to the central misunderstanding which - i'm afraid - was between you and i.. i certainly don't like having the pall of the haze of misunderstanding continuing to be associated with me after being on this board for so long and that in general a very positive presence, and i'd like to respond to whatever dangling strings there are, and i feel sure there are some.

Gary1914

The only person here so far who is even close is Animal

Means "Aminal seems to agree with what I said."

Good for you, Stinky, for not rising to the bait.

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Even MORE Things Eating at MY Mind

by Francois in

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i like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires.

i believe the money i make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

guns do not make you a killer.

Gary1914

Frank,

I can see that you are getting upset so I will leave this thread. I didn't know that all the evidence was not in. I took the remarks you made about pagents and magazines and Jesse were clearly evidence enough.

Call all your friends to agree with you. That's okay to. Some people need the support of other people so that they can be proved "right", I hear my own drummer and speak my mind as I see it.

I never piss up trees. That must be some southern thing and something I am not familiar with. Perhaps you will esplain it to me some day.

Why do you think that being liberal is so bad??? By the way, other people besides JW's are liberal too. It is not a phenomenon just of that religion.

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Even MORE Things Eating at MY Mind

by Francois in

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i like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires.

i believe the money i make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

guns do not make you a killer.

Gary1914

Like I said earlier, Gary, stuff it where the sun never shines

Frank, likewise I'm sure.

You think being "liberal" is a bad thing then? Then to lump all liberals togethers as thinking and acting a certain way certainly shows a lack of intelligence.

Anyway, I have never thought of myself as liberal. I'm sorry if you thought I was telling you how to think. I certainly didn't mean it that way. I was more or less trying to say live and let live. Don't get so bent out of shape becaue people are doing things that you don't agree with. Learn to live with all people and celebrate their differences. "Stuffing it where the sun don't shine" is not a very constructive answer but if that is all you have to offer I will accept it.

You think I see myself as the voice of reason? Nothing could be farther from the truth. I just try to empathize with other people and to see things from a point of view other than my own. But then I guess not as many things bug me about blacks as they do you.

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Even MORE Things Eating at MY Mind

by Francois in

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i like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires.

i believe the money i make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

guns do not make you a killer.

Gary1914

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

Frank, Jesse would indeed be at the door. ; That is because for years every one of the above were only for whites. Beauty pageants, magazines, etc. were the sole possession of white society and even though blacks lived among you, they were virtually invisible in society. ; They were not afforded any of the privileges that whites had. ; Blacks could not use whiye toilets or drink at white water fountains or join white beauty pagents. (I wonder if that were true today would you be as vocal?) Blacks could not go to your schools and in some places it was even considered insolence on the part of blacks to look you in the eye. It was a lilly white world and we had better learn to live in it.

Then came civil rights and for the first time in history ;blacks had the chance to strut ;their stuff and show what ;they could do. ; Even though blacks are still trying to get it together, some of the ways they sought ;to equalize ;conditions was to have their own pagents just as whites had had for years and to have their own magazines. ; Is that so awful? Are you so petty and jealous that you begrudge the black race those few little things that they have been able to accomplish.

All of the things that blacks have and you are so angry about have been in existence for only a few short years. ; However, the establishment of white corporations and magaines and pagents have been in existence since the formation of this great country.

So, instead of joining you whitesin some things blacks went and made their own. ; What is the big deal? Why are you so threatened?</P>
<P>Perhaps one day race won't be the issue it is today and we will eventually all homoginize together. ; In the meantime, is it really so awful that blacks have some things that are just theirs alone?

You live in the south don't you Frank? ; Of course you have every right to think and feel how you wish. ; Just try to show some compassion, some empathy and some understanding and maybe less anger.</P>