It really is humbling to participate in this forum. The posts are insightful, clever, funny, touching, sincere, kind, compassionate, understanding, loving. Thanks for caring. And thank you (Simon?) for making this place possible jns2
Posts by JNS2
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24nagging doubt
by JNS2 inmy journey from lurker to poster was pretty quick.
all the posts are addicting to read, this is worse than being a couch potato.
i've been fortified to make a clean break & them the little inner voice starts talking back.
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Sing out the Kingdom songs!!!
by JNS2 inremember all the counsel to sing out the songs?
that's great except so many of us couldn't sing our way out of a paper bag.
i remember visiting a congregation in colo. & a sister was really following the counsel, top of her lungs.
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Remember all the counsel to sing out the songs? That's great except so many of us couldn't sing our way out of a paper bag. I remember visiting a congregation in Colo. & a sister was really following the counsel, top of her lungs. she had an unbelievable (bad)
singing voice. I suppose the locals were used to it, but hearing that for the first time. OUCH. I can still cringe just thinking about it. I didn't follow that counsel, I KNEW I couldn't sing a lick.
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nagging doubt
by JNS2 inmy journey from lurker to poster was pretty quick.
all the posts are addicting to read, this is worse than being a couch potato.
i've been fortified to make a clean break & them the little inner voice starts talking back.
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Thanks valis. I regretted my post as soon as I hit the "add post" button. I know most everybody here has had some soul searching, gut wrenching times trying to get free, but I guess it's really fresh for me. The wounds are still open. I hate thinking about how long I was duped, it is an awful admission to make to myself. I really appreciate all the heartfelt comments made here from the posters when they're being serious. I am trying to conceive of what life is going to be like in the future without being a JW.
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nagging doubt
by JNS2 inmy journey from lurker to poster was pretty quick.
all the posts are addicting to read, this is worse than being a couch potato.
i've been fortified to make a clean break & them the little inner voice starts talking back.
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My journey from lurker to poster was pretty quick. All the posts are addicting to read, this is worse than being a couch potato. I've been fortified to make a clean break & them the little inner voice starts talking back. What if all these grerat folks are just deluding themselves, what if this is just a group of those that are justifying leaving & doing whatever they darn well want to do. What if this is a gathering of elderettes FINALLY having a chance to speak out. What if this is a gathering place for those who want to do anything under the sun, free love, sex, smoking, new age, you name it, I can do it now! I can be a witch or warlock as long as it is not the black kind, I can cuss, I can smoke a pack a day of marlboros, anything & everything FINALLY I can do it all. There, I got that off my mind. Do I really think that's whats going on here? No. It's just the stupid voice coming from somewhere just when I think I'm seeing clearly. HELP
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Long prayers at the hall
by JH inin every congregation there is always a brother who gives a marathon prayer.
in my congregation there was a brother whose prayers were so long that i decided to time his prayer with my watch.
it lasted about 3-4 minutes.
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A kindly old brother, ms, was starting down the Altzheimers road, but still serving. In an opening prayer he forgot to say amen & just went on with what the meeting was about & finally invited the next brother up. The congregation was collectively like a group of bobbin head dolls, nobody seemed really sure what to do.
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Ray Franz' Book
by JNS2 inhowdy, i'm new here.
21 years in & now about 1 year drifted away with no meetings for spiritual food other than the memorial.
so, in my brother's view i am either spiritually dead or the next thing to it.
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Thanks for the warning, I'll stay out of Farkel's way. Not even a gold watch? Seems like I remember the comment "the reward is extra days of everlasting life".....
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Ray Franz' Book
by JNS2 inhowdy, i'm new here.
21 years in & now about 1 year drifted away with no meetings for spiritual food other than the memorial.
so, in my brother's view i am either spiritually dead or the next thing to it.
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Thanks for the comments & welcomes! I asked the question for 2 reasons. 1) the comment on the other board made me wonder how Ray was doing at this point after the fateful decision he made to leave. 2) I remember vaguely hearing something about his life while I was still in the organization serving as an elder. Something about his sister & something about mental problems of some sort. (probably as pointed out, lies & innuendos) Shakita, don't wonder about my question in a bad way. I'm not trying to pry into his finances. I guess a part of my wondering still has to do with the effect of being in the (b)org for so long. I can't help but wonder what happens to someone who leaves Jehovah so visably & with so much publicity. I suppose I'd wonder, will things go badly for turning ones back on Jehovah or will things go great (materially) because you know who is the "ruler of this world" & all it's wealth. You must realize I wouldn't be here reading posts or adding them if I wasn't trying to see through 22 years of reinforcement (programming). It is, however, hard to just simply accept the fact that I was duped for 22 years. That's MY mini coc.....Larry
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Ray Franz' Book
by JNS2 inhowdy, i'm new here.
21 years in & now about 1 year drifted away with no meetings for spiritual food other than the memorial.
so, in my brother's view i am either spiritually dead or the next thing to it.
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Howdy, I'm new here. 21 years in & now about 1 year drifted away with no meetings for spiritual food other than the memorial. So, in my brother's view I am either spiritually dead or the next thing to it. I'm now questioning everything at least in part because of looking at these !@#$% boards. Anyway, I think it's time I read Ray Franz' book even though I've OBVIOUSLY been warned not to. I'm having my own mini coc, & can hardly imagine what he went through, but as I said, I think it's time now. I just want to know though, what is the current situation with him. A comment was made on a similar board to this one: "buy Ray's book, he needs the money". Will someone fill me in on what's going on with him? In all seriousness, I appreciate reading these posts & occasionally leaving one. In the past I wouldn't have considered doing this, but it doesn't seem so frightening now. Thanks.....
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This is fun!!!!
by Aztec infunny test!
i love it!
have a great new year everyone!http://people.cornell.edu/pages/anb2/quiz.
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Another toaster here. Bring on the bread.....
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Divorced! No Grounds!
by Veovus inmy wife recently filed for divorce after four years of marriage and there is no grounds!
in california you can't contest a divorce and it requires only one signiture to do it.
im twenty three and male.
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Veovus, I am in exactly the same situation as you. I'm divorced according to "Caesar, but not in the eyes of the congregation. I'm not free to remarry (in the congregation) either. I don't like being alone either. My ex-wife says she will never do what it would take to make me free to remarry in the truth. My inclination now is pretty close to what most of the posts here are about. Examining the religion that says I'm in this position. You need to decide what your course will be. I hope both of us find the happiness we're looking for eventually, God willing!