Well, I'm one Black Woman who doesn't intend on goin' back...
One lost, one gained. Hopefully she'll see the light.
Edited by - Nickey on 3 January 2003 18:24:56
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Another Victim lost BACK TO WT - how sad
by JT ina few days back a dfed black woman came to this site - asking for help and looking for answers, so lady "c and myself decided to offer our help, being black we understand that black jw face some issues that a white witness would not, black congo operate many times in a somewhat different fashion in my exp at any rate , we offered our help, we discussed many issues, but in the end she has decided to return back to wt despite the fact that they treat her like dirt- one of the hardest things to watch is to see a jw get so close to freedom and then return to slavery, it reminds me so much of blacks during slavery who were just afraid to run for freedom , even many times when they only needed to cross the river -as a single black mature woman she is facing an uphill battle, if she approaches an elder more than 2 times the elders wife will think she is after her man, if she wants to marry her selection is reduced to some guy with a plaid suit on, instead of the regional director of her company who notices how intelligent she is, but since he don't sell books on the weekend she must let him slide- well here is just a glisp of what we dealt with and how sadly it ended with the jw doing what they have been trained and indoctrinated to do run and deny below are just 3 different sets of dialog .
---- dfed person--sorry, but i don't really think that it is a black and white issue.
jt- o i fully agree it is not a black and white issue, i was merely commenting on what my observation have been, when i was an elder, white bro in meetings would always challenged the co and do if they made some off the wall comment, while black elders would consistently just go along,
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Spirit in my house?
by Sirona injust thought i'd share with you some wierd happenings in my house..... i woke up one morning to see the figure of a young boy standing looking at me.
he was there for a split second then vanished.
i wasn't afraid - it was just sort of wierd.
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Nickey
Yeah, I saw that ghost thing. (if you're talking about the one where you have to stare for 30 seconds)Someone sent it to my email and me and my aunt almost had a heart attack!
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Spirit in my house?
by Sirona injust thought i'd share with you some wierd happenings in my house..... i woke up one morning to see the figure of a young boy standing looking at me.
he was there for a split second then vanished.
i wasn't afraid - it was just sort of wierd.
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Nickey
elderrepents,
Why you godda go and do that? That movie scared me, now I godda duck everytime I come here to reply. lol
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Spirit in my house?
by Sirona injust thought i'd share with you some wierd happenings in my house..... i woke up one morning to see the figure of a young boy standing looking at me.
he was there for a split second then vanished.
i wasn't afraid - it was just sort of wierd.
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Nickey
Well, I'm a realist myself always looking for facts. But I've learned that there are alot of things that humans have yet to know and understand. We try to explain things, but only to the best of "our" abilities. We do have our limits. Otherwise, we'd try to say we were Gods who know the full operartion of the universe and everything in it... when we still haven't fully discovered everything there is to know on the very planet we live on.
Alot of visionaries and inventors got hounded on for thinking outside of the boxed mentality of logic. Back then, it wasn't "logical" to fly. Any object heavier than air would surely fall, therefore flying was a myth to many. But many had to actually "see" it to believe it.
I do agree, there is an explanation to the experiences that some people have had. But it may not be acceptable to the general population. Some people are indeed "crazy" and see hallucinations. Drugs can even have the same effects. But on the other hand, it still doesn't discredit other situations.
Example being, just because 2+2=4. doesn't mean it discounts 3+1, 1+3, 5-1, 6-2...etc. Too many possiblities and answers that would all be correct in their own way and circumstances.
I'll be honest though, I'd probably be a skeptic myself had I not seen certain things... I'm usually a harsh critic.
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Spirit in my house?
by Sirona injust thought i'd share with you some wierd happenings in my house..... i woke up one morning to see the figure of a young boy standing looking at me.
he was there for a split second then vanished.
i wasn't afraid - it was just sort of wierd.
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Nickey
Well, I don't think anybody can say whether it is or isn't. Some people have truly experienced things. Just because it can't be explained by the human perception, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Or even that it has a "logical" explanation by human standards.
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Should I go to the meetings?
by Nickey ini'm having a bit of a problem.. my mother recently decided to go back to the meetings.
it isn't enough that i've made a personal decision for myself to not go.
but i find her constantly trying to push me to go.
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Nickey
I've been brainstorming about it. I just know that I cringe everytime now. It's not the same ever since I've done my own research. I catch things that I didn't before and it's become harder for me.
As far as me telling or not. Knowing my mother, she will question me and demand to know sooner or later. She's already "concerned" about my attitude and lack of interest towards the society. I really can't hide that anymore. Reading the Daily Text and Watchtower's has become harder for me. It's obvious when we have our Family study on Monday's. But she also said that if I knew something then to let her know.
So I'm thinking a gradual approach. Hopefully...
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Long prayers at the hall
by JH inin every congregation there is always a brother who gives a marathon prayer.
in my congregation there was a brother whose prayers were so long that i decided to time his prayer with my watch.
it lasted about 3-4 minutes.
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Nickey
lol I know, my grandfather was one. That was so embarrassing everytime they had to interrupt him.
"In Jesus's name we pray..... for all that you've done... and so we ask in his name...a...and we are so THANKFUL for your provisions...so again, we come to you in his name...how wonderful..."
Imagine going through that everytime you ate dinner.
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How was it for you?
by ozziepost inwith 2002 almost consigned to history, how was it for you?
how would you sum up your 2002?
nah, this isn't a poll; we do those on the weekends!!
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Nickey
This year started off bad... then really bad... then worse. But, it's ended on a positive note.
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Does Religion drive you nuts?
by JH inwith all the different religions and beliefs that contradict each other, do you still believe that one of them is the true religion?
the more we try to understand god, the more we are lost.
the more we pray, the more we are deceived.
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Nickey
My aunt said something to me oneday that really made me think because I never looked at it that way before.
"Religion isn't a group or organization of men dictating over people. Religion is a practice of what a person does. It's a concept. To apply the basic message of the bible. The 9 fruitages of the spirit. Love, Joy, peace, longer-suffering...etc."
Somehow they've made a money-making business out of it when it's all about the religion "within" the person.
I've had my times when I wondered if there even was a God. But things around me always remind me. How the planets are lined just right and surrounding the brightest star. "The 3rd rock from the sun." Not too hot and not too cold. The sun and how it reflects off the moon just right and night. How the moon stays in rotation around the earth with the perfect pull of gravity. Just so us humans won't be in complete darkness at night all the time. Fire to keep us warm. The ozone layer to protect us from the harmful effects of the sun and the atmosphere doing it's best to burn any solid objects coming through it. It's a shield that serves as protection. Plants absorbing carbon dioxide that just so happens to be harmful for humans and then giving off oxygen that humans just so happen to need to breath and stay alive.
I mean, there's so many things that remind me...
Well, that's just my view on things. It's different from person to person. But I just look at the smaller things in life instead of trying to see a big huge miracle of proof. If he's out there watching, he did a good job on making everything for us and the food is sooooooo good. I don't know what I'd do without taste-buds!
Just my opinion though. *shrugs*
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Did they encourage you to study again?
by JH inwhen you started to slow down in the congregation, what was the reaction of the brother/sister who studied with you up to your baptism?
usually these people hate to see their hard work go down the drain.
did he/she try to encourage you to study again when you became inactive?edited by - jh on 30 december 2002 17:7:45.
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Nickey
Goody for me, my mother is suggesting I study with one of the sisters in the Hall. Maybe that will stengthen me in the faith and help me with my doubts.
No, I will not have anyone taking me for a fool and trying to program me again. Wouldn't work anyway because I've already come to seeing the truth about the truth.