Hi Paduan, I'm unsure of what you mean, but Yod Hey Waw Hey(YHWH) has not the same meaning as Alef Dalet Nun Yod(ADNY); respectively, Yehowah and Adonai. The haya verb incorporated within God's personal name has a slightly different meaning to the intent of Ex3:14. God seems to be telling Moses that He is capable of adjusting to changing circumstances; He Will Be What He Will Be! I Am That I Am is not merely a statement of self-existence as the translators of the LXX tried to show in the Greek expression Ho Ohn(The Being), but it is both an an erroneous and impossible rendering of the Hebrew as other instances where this phrase ocurrs amply demonstrates. The Hebrew in Ex 3:14 is not making a statement of self-existence as English and Greek translators claim. Neither is Lord a proper translation of Yehowah; one can state that these are words apart.
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God's Name?
by seeking_truth inanother question for everyone.
i have read through some of the threads, posts or whatever and even though there is a sense of disagreement over witnesses and the society, their way of handling the words of the bible.
i was curious to know if anyone does believe jehovah is his name?
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God's Name?
by seeking_truth inanother question for everyone.
i have read through some of the threads, posts or whatever and even though there is a sense of disagreement over witnesses and the society, their way of handling the words of the bible.
i was curious to know if anyone does believe jehovah is his name?
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Hi Paduan: In Hebrew "Ani" means "I am" or "I". It does not does not appear in the phrase at Ex 3:14 that you seem to be alluding to. In the Hebrew text it says not Ani Asher Ani( I am that I am), a statement of existence, but "EhYeh Asher Ehyeh", something quite different. A rabbi should be able to accurately translate this phrase into English for you.
And RevMalk: You're free to worship whom or whatever pleases you. For me I worship the same person Christ Jesus worshipped and worships. It is fairly clear in scripture that the object of Jesus adoration and worship has a name. Jesus own name, like others that bore this same name, is a reminder that Yehowah is Chief Savior. All other gods, lords and saviors are subordinate to Yehowah. This is one reason Yehowah is called God of gods.
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God's Name?
by seeking_truth inanother question for everyone.
i have read through some of the threads, posts or whatever and even though there is a sense of disagreement over witnesses and the society, their way of handling the words of the bible.
i was curious to know if anyone does believe jehovah is his name?
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Hi 'Truth,
It was WTS apologist Dr Firpo Carr that proposed that God's name is a trisyllable like adonai and elohim. "Yehovah" might be close to the original semitic pronounciation. The Name appears more times in the OT than God and Lord combined. I think it's significant that extant NT manuscripts are absent the prolific OT usage of the Holy Name. And Jesus introduced men to a greater intimacy with God by advancing "Father" usage more than the prophets before him. The WTS actually abuses God Holy Name by over-use and over-familiarity. And this seems to be the point Jesus made in the Our Father prayer,'Hallowed by thy name" and Moses, 'You must not prounce the name in a wothless way..'. God is surely to be identified by his personal Name that He gave unto himself, but used in the most respectful manner and not in the worthless watchtower way.
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Attacks on Kingdom Hall
by Kenneson inin today's paper: "church worries about rash of vandalism.".
http://pasco.tbo.com/pasco/mgab8nacrbd.html.
while i certainly don't agree with jw doctrine, neither do i condone such activity.
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Hi country girl; I guess it's fair to say that you don't know the dynamics present in the Baptist church incident. Perhaps you're a philosophic liberal, living in an ideal world. The reality is that the second law of thermodynamics is always present in human culture: ie. for every action there is an equal reaction. Violence is but one of the many options of reaction. That's reality! Idealism competes with reality and is inherent to liberal thinking. Forget about karma upon the perpetrators, honey, it seems the locals jay-duds are reaping their own karma.
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Attacks on Kingdom Hall
by Kenneson inin today's paper: "church worries about rash of vandalism.".
http://pasco.tbo.com/pasco/mgab8nacrbd.html.
while i certainly don't agree with jw doctrine, neither do i condone such activity.
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Hey country girl:- Was that Baptist church and its members involved in actively hurting people like the WTS and its satellite corporations, otherwise known as congregations which comprise policy-compliant individuals? I don't think rubadub's flippant comments to worf were warranted. I understood worf to mean that a law of consequences exists. If one is instrumental in imposing an evil corporate policy on people then one should expect to reap what one sows.
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Watch Tower Finances
by link inwould anyone like to comment on the following observations?.
the very large majority of the jws that i come into contact with on a regular basis are not wealthy and many have very low incomes, yet they still make substantial contributions to the wbts every month.
because they are firmly lead to believe that it is an organisation that is struggling for its financial survival.. following a recent visit from the c.o.
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Jim (Amazing) Whitney PROMISED about twelve months ago "bombshell" revelations about the Watch Tower corporations. I frequent this forum solely to check if Jim has posted his promised bombshell research papers.
I don't know if Jim has been threatened if he so posts. A dollar to a dime says Jim knows the answers to Watch Tower finances. Does anyone have any influence with Jim so as to obtain his research? Jim?
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There is a rat on this forum
by jesusstolemyhotrod ini think someone on this forum is a rat....or troll as i think they are called.. i am sitting at home last night watching fear factor, and there was a knock at the door.. i opened it to find two elders from my old hall.
they did not seem very sincere when they apologized for disturbing me without notice.. they said the purpose of there visit was to just to check up on me, find out if my circumstances or opinions had changed.
we ended up in a huge conversation about my "inactivity", they wanted to know if there was anything keeping or holding me back from the truth, and wanted to know if there was anything i needed to get of my chest, cause guilt has away of keeping people back.
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Hi 'hotrod:- Baptism Nullification might be worth considering.
I have often wondered if I too was being monitored. I live in an area where the jaydubs don't visit often and when they do they avoid my premises like a heterosexual man does another man's hairy ass. And I seem to have a steady stream of viruses sent to my e.mail. I knew a jaydub that was a PI and specialized in snooping on other jaydubs. He claimed that Bethel and the elders approved of his activities and would accept his dossiers for judicial deliberations.
In regards baptism nullification; a guy is supposed to be posting on channelc. He has a different method than that tried previously. It looks like it might be a viable method to take the stick out of the hands of the thugs and reduce an individual's chagrine where D/F'ment is about to be unrighteously imposed. As of this hour I do not see it posted on channelc yet it has been on their desk for at least a week. Perhaps someone has an 'in' with the web owner on channelc and can get it posted. It's not my work otherwise I'd post it.
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The WT's Greatest Blasphemy
by blackguard inhi guys, this belongs with the original post on or about nov 24th, 'watchtower roots'.. the watch tower's greatest blasphemy.
since his corporate coup d'etat after russell's demise.
rutherford had been busily fine tuning his fifth columnist mystical machinery.
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Hi Guys,
Yes, it might appear that I'm exposed as a liar---but truth embellishment is something I learned as a jaydub---you should know that I'm working to correct this flaw!
Also, I don't recall stating this is all about a conspiracy. If you feel compelled to reprove someone, perhaps you could draft a rebuke to G.W.Bush: He believes in some crazy conspiracy that some 19 camel-incompetent Arabs , many of whom are still alive, boarded several aircraft and flew them into the WTC. Can you imagine that?? And who can imagine that Enron corporate executives conspired to defraud its shareholders and the American public? Really crazy, uh?
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The WT's Greatest Blasphemy
by blackguard inhi guys, this belongs with the original post on or about nov 24th, 'watchtower roots'.. the watch tower's greatest blasphemy.
since his corporate coup d'etat after russell's demise.
rutherford had been busily fine tuning his fifth columnist mystical machinery.
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Hi Guys, This belongs with the original post on or about Nov 24th, 'Watchtower Roots'.
The Watch Tower's Greatest Blasphemy
Since his corporate coup d'etat after Russell's demise. Rutherford had been busily fine tuning his fifth columnist mystical machinery. But mystics play with language in a manner difficult for outsiders to comprehend. Adepts will identify other mystics by the multiple, literal and figurative meanings peculiar to each group. Russell's speech to Masons earlier mentioned is a case in point; his speech to Jews is another. Hitler's swastika is yet another: This occult symbol can represent Light or Dark or Naziism. God's Holy Name is often employed in mystical symbols and names, such as FreeMasonry's Jahbulon.
By 1931 Rutherford had fairly decided to incorporate the Divine Name in such a perverse manner. Rutherford, defying the Divine will that Christ's disciples be called Christians, lifted a Hebrew phrase out of Isaiah 43:10, "Atem Edai Na.oom Yehovah" and turned it into an anglicized plural noun, something the text does not intend. This profane use of God's Name alerted some that something's wrong; and they left. Rutherford's anachronistic new identity, foisted upon the religious membership, was coded speech alerting yet others that a denigration of the Divine Name had begun. Rutherford was also signalling his intention to fully align his corporate Mammon closer to the talmudic ideals of Haskalah or non-Judaic, non-Biblical Zionism which FreeMasonry covertly represents.
Rutherford's methods are history now. It is significant that the oldest extant NT manuscripts refer more often to God as "Father" (Abba) than to his personal name. This contrasts with OT usage where the Divine Name is more frequent than 'Lord' and "God' combined. The reason for this shift seems linked to Jesus' command to "hallow God's name", which in turn, is complementary to the Mosaic command to 'not pronounce God's name in vain'. To hallow or not use God's name in vain means, primarily, NOT to reduce it to vulgar or common usage, such as by "over-use and/or over-familiarity". And this is precisely what Rutherford commenced and his successors and corporate executives continued:- The vulgarization of the Holy Name! Anyone remotely familiar with watchtower culture knows that God's Name is used so frequently that it is not only grating to the ears, but far exceeds the normal usage of human names in human conversations. It would seem that the Arch-Fiend's name is shown greater respect in Watcher culture by virtue of less usage. Another method the corporate machine uses is the minimimization of God's Holy Name. This is achieved (i)on its Mishnah vehicle,the corporate gazette, The WATCHTOWER (large bold type) announcing J------'s kingdom(smaller type), and (ii) KINGDOM HALL (larger letters) of J------'s Witnesses (smaller).
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The Watchtower and the Coming of the Antichrist
by watchman in.
here's an essay that some may find interesting.
http://www.e-watchman.com/essays/antichrist/antichrist.htm
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Hi Watchman,
I think I can agree with some of your comments, but I think you've needlessly complicated things that are relatively simple. For example, 'the mystery of this lawlessness 'has little to nothing to do with the WTS, and no-one can satisfactorily link a particular antichrist to a man of lawlessness, son of perdition because antichrist is a generic description: And 'this generation' phrase of Mat24:34 seems linked to the comments of v.29 , NOT vs 6-8. Now v.29 seems to be describing a yet future celestial event perhaps when a large comet passes between the earth and sun and its gravitational/magnetic influence causes earth to shudder on its axis thus giving earthlings to sense that the "powers of the heavens are shaking". Your connecting Judas to the man of lawlessness is interesting though; Judas also happened to be a Jew not just an apostle of Jesus.