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UN/Watchtower/Who/

by Voyager in

according to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.

he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.

here is what he told me!-----see below:.

You failed to answer the question! Do you realize how many statements the Watchtower has made (against) the United Nations, or having (anything) to do with the Harlot/Wild Beast? Then only to turn around and (promote) the very beast if previously condemned?

If your going to (defend) the Watchtower, then at least stand up like a man and do so! If your (not) going to defend it, then I suggest you start posting some information that exposes the hypocrites for what they are and stop wasting our time!

Stop straddling the fence!

Unbelievable!

And Good-Bye to you too!

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UN/Watchtower/Who/

by Voyager in

according to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.

he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.

here is what he told me!-----see below:.

Voyager

Steve:

This is what is listed and referenced on the 2003 Watchtower CD.----See below:

the

Holy Scriptures: g97 12/8 18; jv 612-13

Bible New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures?With Notes and References: yb97 5

brochure Mission to Africa: yb98 45

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And this is what the Yearbook/1998/page-45 states, quote:

The France

branch was assisted in the preparation of a brochure containing details about this activity. The brochure was distributed to government officials and members of the news media, acquainting them with examples of what Jehovah?s Witnesses were doing in a positive and practical way to provide assistance to people in need. A number of officials expressed sincere appreciation for this information. They were impressed especially by what was done to ensure that the supplies would be received by those in need and would be distributed in an equitable manner.

Thanks!

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UN/Watchtower/Who/

by Voyager in

according to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.

he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.

here is what he told me!-----see below:.

Voyager

cyborgVision wrote:

Need I go any further??

Yes, Yes, we have all seen and posted these documents before!

So what are you actually saying?

Are you saying the Watchtower is a hypocrite or not?

Yes or No?

Make yourself (clear) this time! Above you said you did (not) make yourself clear.

So here's your opportunity!

Yes or No? Is the Watchtower a liar or not?

Thanks!

9

The Readers Digest

by Country_Woman in

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friends

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today i suddenly saw the similarity of the wathtower / awake illustrations and the illustrations in the readers digest publications.. could have been made by the same artist, (or group of artists).

i am wondering, is the readers digest somehow connected to the watchtower ?.

Voyager

Similarities in Pictures:---------Go here and see list below. When you get to the website look at (Screen 21), and other Watchtower pictures and meanings:

http://www.tagnet.org/cyberspace/Lessons/Fut-074/fut1-074.html

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Source of the Pictures of this Lesson

Screen 1: Picture collection «ClickArt 65,000» by Broderbund, CD #4, NATFL066.JPG. Screen 2: MOLAN, Chris. In: «Forever Stories, volume 5» (BYERS, Carolyn), Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1990, p.42,43. Screen 3: Photo by MORRIS, Kevin R. «Sifting Rice in Cambodia», Rattanakiri Province, Cambodia, January 30, 1996 (www.corbis.com/Kevin R. Morris, Image ID: IH184482). Screen 4: First picture: In: «The Watchtower» magazine (February 1, 1986), New York, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, p.16. Second picture: Photo by MORRIS, Kevin R. «Sifting Rice in Cambodia», Rattanakiri Province, Cambodia, January 30, 1996 (www.corbis.com/Kevin R. Morris, Image ID: IH184482). Screen 5: In: «Prophecy Seminars», Seminars Unlimited, 1989, Daniel lesson #23 («The Day of Deliverance»), p.5. Screen 6: In: «La Révélation - le grand dénouement est proche», New York, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, 1988, p.67. Screen 7: In: «The Watchtower» magazine (June 15, 1986), Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, p.7. Picture edited by Cyberspace Ministry. Screen 8: Unknown source. Screen 9: Corbis Collection (www.corbis.com). Screen 10: In: «The Watchtower» magazine (April 15, 1994), Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, p.8. Screen 11: In: «Uncle Arthur's Bible Book» (MAXWELL, Arthur S.), Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1968, p.378. Screen 12: In: «La Révélation - le grand dénouement est proche», New York, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, 1988, p.167. Picture edited by Cyberspace Ministry. Screen 13: Photo by BLAIR, Jonathan. «Woman Sifting Grain», Zile, Anatolia, Turkey, August 1967 (www.corbis.com/Jonathan Blair, Image ID: JB011400). Screen 14: In: «La Sentinelle» magazine (July 1993), Pacific Press Publishing Association, front cover. Screen 15: Pictorial Archive (Near Eastern History). In: «The Watchtower» magazine (June 15, 1987), New York, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, p.18. Screen 16: In: «La Révélation - le grand dénouement est proche», New York, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, 1988, p.160. Picture edited by Cyberspace Ministry. Screen 17: LAUNE, Paul. In: «The Living Bible Encyclopedia in Story and Pictures, volume 7», New York, H.S. Stuttman Co. Inc., 1968, p.912-d. Screen 18: In: «The Watchtower» magazine (October 1, 1987), Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, p.18. Screen 19: In: «The Bible Story, volume 8» (MAXWELL, Arthur S.), Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1956, p.74. Screen 20: In: «The Living Bible», Holman Illustrated Edition, 1973, p.822. Screen 21: Photo by LAUNOIS, John. In: «The Reader's Digest Bible, Illustrated Edition», Reader's Digest Association Far East Ltd., 1990, p.638. Screen 22: Photo by NAVASWAN, FPG International (1993). In: «Sacred Symbols» (GIBSON, Clare), Prospero Books, 1998, p.45. Screen 23: In: «The Watchtower» magazine (April 15, 1987), Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, p.10. Screen 24: In: «The Living Bible Encyclopedia in Story and Pictures, volume 14», New York, H.S. Stuttman Co. Inc., 1968, p.1777. Screen 25: In: «Revelation Seminars», Seminars Unlimited, 1986, lesson #22 («Les Sept Fléaux de l'Apocalypse»), p.4. Screen 26: In: «Prophecy Seminars», Seminars Unlimited, 1989, Daniel lesson #23 («The Day of Deliverance»), p.5. Screen 27: In: «The Watchtower» magazine (October 1, 1985), Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, p.17. Screen 28: In: «Revelation Seminars», Seminars Unlimited, 1986, lesson #16 («Le Pays du Recommencement»), p.4. Screen 29: First picture: Unknown source. Second picture: Photo by MORRIS, Kevin R. «Sifting Rice in Cambodia», Rattanakiri Province, Cambodia, January 30, 1996 (www.corbis.com/Kevin R. Morris, Image ID: IH184482). Third picture: Photo by BLAIR, Jonathan. «Woman Sifting Grain», Zile, Anatolia, Turkey, August 1967 (www.corbis.com/Jonathan Blair, Image ID: JB011400). Fourth picture: Photo by HOUSER, Dave G. «Hand Sifting Grains in Sack in Market», El Golea, Algeria, December, 1984 (www.corbis.com/Dave G. Houser, Image ID: DH006521). Screen 30: Corbis Collection (www.corbis.com). Screen 31: STEEL, John. In: «La Sentinelle» magazine (April 1993), Pacific Press Publishing Association, p.5. Screen 32: BISHOP, Tom. «Stone strikes feet of image». In: «New Pictoral Aid For Bible Study» (BREADEN, Frank), Australian Division of Seventh-Day Adventists, 1970, chart #7. Screen 33: Picture collection «ClickArt 65,000» by Broderbund, CD #4, NATOT289.JPG.

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The Readers Digest

by Country_Woman in

jw
friends

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today i suddenly saw the similarity of the wathtower / awake illustrations and the illustrations in the readers digest publications.. could have been made by the same artist, (or group of artists).

i am wondering, is the readers digest somehow connected to the watchtower ?.

Voyager

http://quotes.watchtower.ca/religion-money.htm

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* Awake! 1970 February 8 pp.21-3 Churches in Business *

Churches in Business

IN RECENT years there has been growing evidence that churches are deeply involved in big business, much to the consternation of a great many people. They have invested huge sums of money in a wide variety of business enterprises. Because the profits they receive from these businesses are very often tax exempt fewer taxes come in to all levels of government. This creates a greater burden for the average taxpayer.

An article appearing in Reader's Digest of March 1969 discussed this tax loss and said: "For federal and state governments, church-owned and church-operated businesses represent a large loss of revenue?the taxes that would be collected if the enterprises were run by competitive private industry. It is impossible to calculate the loss exactly, but responsible estimates put it at $6.5 billion a year."

Think how much individual taxes could be reduced if these taxes were paid. This loss is just in the United States. Other countries are also losing from tax-exempt church income from businesses.

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"The United and Anglican Churches in Canada have more than 100 million dollars invested, 100 million dollars in every kind of imaginable enterprise, yes, even in some of these industries manufacturing arms and napalm to be used against human beings."

The Vatican is the head of the Roman Catholic Church, and it too is deeply involved in big business. From its position on the Tiber River in Rome it governs a vast business empire that stretches around the world.

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The vast business holdings of the Vatican and of other religious organizations bind them inseparably with the business world. How unlike the true Christians concerning whom Jesus Christ said: "They are no part of the world"!?John 17:16.

The religious organization that truly is serving God, in harmony with the example set by Jesus Christ, concentrates on preaching and teaching the liberating truths of his Word and does not become involved in commercial businesses. Following the Bible's instructions, it does not involve itself in "the commercial businesses of life."?2 Tim. 2:4.

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Watchtower continues relationship with United Nations in some way

by Dogpatch in

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to find that the watchtower continued (another) type of u.n. relationship even (after) they disassociated from the (ngo dpi) sections, these are the instructions i was given: 1. go to the home page of (who) world health organization 2. type in these numbers into the search engine at the top: (10184) and click go 3. when the next page comes up, you will receive one pdf listing of information.

click on it.

4. when the pdf file comes up, go to page 3 and you will find that the watch tower of jehovah's witnesses is listed as a (new idp site) and (participant center).

Voyager

Gerard:

Gerard hit the nail right on the head. The Watchtower's first excuse is always the same. Always deflecting responsibility!

Good show Gerard!

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Watchtower continues relationship with United Nations in some way

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

to find that the watchtower continued (another) type of u.n. relationship even (after) they disassociated from the (ngo dpi) sections, these are the instructions i was given: 1. go to the home page of (who) world health organization 2. type in these numbers into the search engine at the top: (10184) and click go 3. when the next page comes up, you will receive one pdf listing of information.

click on it.

4. when the pdf file comes up, go to page 3 and you will find that the watch tower of jehovah's witnesses is listed as a (new idp site) and (participant center).

Voyager

Tijkmo wrote:

but the wts has left itself between a rock and a hard place here

This is exactly what we are trying to prove to people! The Watchtower is (not) supposed to be in charge , now are they? Jesus Christ was supposed to have returned and be (present) since 1914, so HE is the one who is supposed to be in charge.

So how can the Watchtower be (guided) by Jesus Christ, if (they) are making decisions that put themselves between a rock and a hard place? Why has the Watchtower put (itself) on Christ's throne and feel that (they) are the ones qualified to make such decisions in the first place?

Would Jesus Christ make decisions that are going to put his followers between a rock and a hard place?

You are only helping us to prove the hypocrisy of the Watchtower, thank you very much!

Thanks!

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UN/Watchtower/Who/

by Voyager in

according to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.

he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.

here is what he told me!-----see below:.

Voyager

cyborgVision:

I like to see irrefutable and concrete evidence about subject

Check out the Yearbook listed above for your concrete evidence. They admit that the (French Branch) was assisted in publishing a brochure about the disaster relief efforts. That brochure was called (Mission To Africa).

If the Yearbook is not good enough for you, then suit yourself!

Thanks!

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UN/Watchtower/Who/

by Voyager in

according to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.

he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.

here is what he told me!-----see below:.

Voyager

Steve:

I provided you with this information before. See below:

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There is a (brochure), that was published by the Watchtower Society about their humanitarian relief efforts that thousands of Jehovah?s Witnesses do (not) even know exists! The (brochure) is called: (Mission To Africa), and here is what the Yearbook/1998/p-45/ states about this brochure, quote:

The France

branch was assisted (in the preparation of a brochure containing details about this activity). The (brochure was distributed to government officials and members of the news media), acquainting them with examples of what Jehovah?s Witnesses were doing in a positive and practical way to provide assistance to people in need. A number of officials expressed sincere appreciation for this information.

If we take a look at this (brochure), we can find where the Watchtower Society admit themselves that they used the United Nations High Commissioner of Refugees (airplanes) who (flew in relief supplies), for Jehovah?s Witnesses and others in Africa.

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UN/Watchtower/Who/

by Voyager in

according to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.

he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.

here is what he told me!-----see below:.

Voyager

frankiespeakin:

Very welcome Sir! You'll find a lot of great documents on Kent's site.

Thanks!

Voyager

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*** Awake! 1970 February 8 pp.21-3 Churches in Business ***

Churches in Business

* Awake! 1970 February 8 pp.21-3 Churches in Business *