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JW love in action: JWs fail to inform me when roommate of two years dies

by seattleniceguy in

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when i was a witness, i shared a house with an elder/pioneer named herb.

herb was in his eighties, and he had paid off his two-bedroom house long ago, so he would offer the extra bedroom to local brothers.

it was a good deal, and herb got some company at the house, so everyone benefited.. for being in his eighties, herb was exceptionally fit.

Voyager

Thanks SNG! Iam sorry also that you lost such a close friend and were treated with such unloving practices.

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JW love in action: JWs fail to inform me when roommate of two years dies

by seattleniceguy in

jw
friends

when i was a witness, i shared a house with an elder/pioneer named herb.

herb was in his eighties, and he had paid off his two-bedroom house long ago, so he would offer the extra bedroom to local brothers.

it was a good deal, and herb got some company at the house, so everyone benefited.. for being in his eighties, herb was exceptionally fit.

Voyager

Seattleniceguy:

cold organization is that which bears the name Jehovah.

Believe me, I know (exactly) how you feel! My sister who is a JW in good standing, and her (Ministerial Servant), husband made sure I was (not) at my own Mother's funeral at the Kingdom Hall.

They made sure of this by (not) even informing me that she had died until one month (after) the fact!

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Jehovah's Witnesses Eyeing Berlin Land Purchase!

by Voyager in

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http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2005/05/23/jehovahs_witnesses_eyeing_berlin_land_purchase/?rss_id=boston.com+%2f+news .

Voyager

The thread didn't work for me, so here is the cut and paste.

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Jehovah's Witnesses eyeing Berlin land purchase

May 23, 2005

BERLIN, N.H. -- Jehovah's Witnesses want to purchase land from the city as part of a plan to build a new church.

The Jehovah's Witnesses hope to build a Kingdom Hall on 7.7 acres of land it already owns. The church is now offering $2,000 for an adjacent 137 foot by 80 foot piece of land that would provide public access to the new building.

Church representatives planned to present the offer on Monday at a city council meeting.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Eyeing Berlin Land Purchase!

by Voyager in

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friends

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http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2005/05/23/jehovahs_witnesses_eyeing_berlin_land_purchase/?rss_id=boston.com+%2f+news .

Voyager

Go here:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2005/05/23/jehovahs_witnesses_eyeing_berlin_land_purchase/?rss_id=Boston.com+%2F+News

Thanks!

Sports And Social Clubs!

by Voyager in

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does anyone have any information on this?.

http://www.touchedinburgh.com/business/list/bid/2638905 .

Voyager

Does anyone have any information on this?

http://www.touchedinburgh.com/business/list/bid/2638905

Thanks for the help!

Jehovah's Witnesses Unhappy With Armenian Alternative Service!

by Voyager in

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http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeniareport/report/en/2005/05/3197b422-b6ce-462e-8831-46cb6d77ee1f.asp .

Voyager

GO HERE:

http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeniareport/report/en/2005/05/3197B422-B6CE-462E-8831-46CB6D77EE1F.ASP

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JW Books at School,- Could Cause Lawsuit!

by Voyager in

credit for this goes to debbie!.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?article_id=44242 .

Voyager

CREDIT FOR THIS GOES TO DEBBIE!

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44242

BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
Darwin defender sued for libel
Parent-activist says evolutionist published false claims about him

Posted: May 13, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

A California parent battling a school district over how it teaches evolutionary theory has filed a libel lawsuit against the education establishment's chief spokeswoman on Darwin, claiming she is trying to discredit his efforts.

Larry Caldwell, a practicing lawyer, is

seeking a retraction from Eugenie C. Scott and the California Academy of Sciences after an Academy magazine, California Wild, published numerous claims he says are false.

Scott ? executive director of the Oakland, Calif.-based

? wrote that Caldwell attempted to get the district to adopt materials advocating biblical creationism, including a young-earth creationist book, "Refuting Evolution," by Jonathan Safarti, and the Jehovah's Witness book "Life: How Did It Get Here? By Evolution or Creation?"

But Caldwell told WorldNetDaily he had never even heard of the books she cites.

His aim, he says, is simply for students to be exposed to the work of many prominent scientists who point out weaknesses in evolutionary theory, without introducing religious content.

Scott will not speak to media about the lawsuit, on advice of her lawyers. In a statement on its website, the NCSE says it "believes the lawsuit against Dr. Scott has no merit."

Caldwell said he wrote a letter to Scott and the NCSE demanding a retraction, but it was ignored.

"It just shows that even after they've been told in detail the specific facts, they are not willing to rely on the truth in this debate," Caldwell said. "It just confirms to me they have a strategy of using misinformation."

Caldwell said, however, he's in discussions with the California Academy of Sciences to publish a letter in the July issue of its magazine.

As WorldNetDaily reported, Caldwell already is involved in a civil-rights lawsuit he filed in federal court against the Roseville Joint Union High School District and school officials in Sacramento, Calif., alleging his constitutional rights to free speech, equal protection and religious freedom were violated when he was prevented from introducing a curriculum that changes how the theory of evolution is taught.

Caldwell said he's been contacted by two other individuals who say they have been libeled by Scott's NCSE.

In 2002, biologist Jonathan Wells, a leading figure in the Intelligent Design movement, claimed his science credentials were impugned by NCSE officials Kevin Padian and Alan Gishlick.

Padian and Gishlick wrote that after Wells obtained his Ph.D. in biology, he "followed this with a 5-year postdoctoral position ... during which time he seems to have performed no experiments" and "no peer-reviewed publications resulted."

Both claims were false, according to John West of the Seattle-based Discovery Institute , who noted that even after sending documentation, the two authors refused to correct the record.

"Spreading false information about others appears to be part of standard practice at the NCSE," West said on the Discovery Intitute weblog "Evolution News & Views."

Wells, a Discovery Institute fellow and author of "Icons of Evolution," was among the scientists who testified at the controversial Kansas State Board of Education hearings on plans to consider changes in standards that determine how students are tested on science statewide.

Board members accused defenders of the current curriculum of engaging in character assassination during the hearings, which concluded Tuesday.

National and state science groups boycotted the hearings, claiming they were biased against evolution.

Wells accused evolution defenders of showing contempt for science and Kansas by refusing to participate.

"What is it that they're afraid of?" Wells said in a statement. "If they are so sure they are right, they should have the courage to be cross-examined."

Now Elders Are Making Elderly & Infirm Feel Guilty For "Being Hooked Up"!

by minimus in

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my mom as well as a few others are "hooked up by phone" to the meetings.

lately, the elders are saying in their talks that if a brother or sister could be at the meetings but instead are "hooked up", then they are hurting jehovah by not having regular association with the "friends" at the kingdom hall.

Voyager

Minimus: Yet, members of the (Governing Body) are cared for by having someone (by their side) to care for their needs.

No mention here of this (governing body member) dragging his (body) to the meetings.

No mentions here of this member of the (governing body) wading through alligator infested waters to get to a meeting.

No mention here of this member of the (governing body) being in (2 car accidents), and suffering from illnesses or physical conditions that (others) suffer from, but (are still required) to be at those meetings!

Watchtower/1988/Sept/15th/page-31/

MARTIN POETZINGER, a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah?s Witnesses, finished his earthly course as an anointed Christian in the early evening of Thursday, June 16, 1988. He had been in failing health for some time but died without apparent pain at Brooklyn Bethel. His wife, Gertrud, had been at his side throughout his illness.

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Now Elders Are Making Elderly & Infirm Feel Guilty For "Being Hooked Up"!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my mom as well as a few others are "hooked up by phone" to the meetings.

lately, the elders are saying in their talks that if a brother or sister could be at the meetings but instead are "hooked up", then they are hurting jehovah by not having regular association with the "friends" at the kingdom hall.

Voyager

Minimus: Here is another article (promoting) getting to the meetings (no-matter) what the physical trials and tribulations are!

Awake/1993/June/8th/page-14/

One disabled African girl named Jay lived the life of a recluse, venturing out of the small compound where she lived only once in her 18 years. After studying the Bible with Jehovah?s Witnesses, she began attending Christian meetings. This required her to "walk" several blocks, pulling herself forward by her hands, dragging her torso behind her.

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Now Elders Are Making Elderly & Infirm Feel Guilty For "Being Hooked Up"!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my mom as well as a few others are "hooked up by phone" to the meetings.

lately, the elders are saying in their talks that if a brother or sister could be at the meetings but instead are "hooked up", then they are hurting jehovah by not having regular association with the "friends" at the kingdom hall.

Voyager

Minimus makes a good point! I have noticed that in certain Watchtower and Awake articles, that illnesses, accidents, bad backs, bad sore necks, pains, arthritis, bad knees, unable to carry objects even 5 pounds,---makes (no) excuse for (not) attending meetings or going out in service.

Being (hookedup) to a telephone, when (they) judge that you (could really) be at the meetings is being frowned upon. Here is just one of the articles I found. No doubt, this sister should have been (hooked-up) to a telephone while healing from her conditions! But instead?

Watchtower/2002/Feb/15th/page-21/

15 A longtime servant of Jehovah in New Mexico, U.S.A., was in two automobile accidents. Her neck and shoulders were injured, aggravating an arthritic condition with which she had been coping for over 25 years. She relates: "I had great difficulty holding my head up and carrying anything weighing over five pounds [2 kg]. But fervent prayer to Jehovah has sustained me greatly. So have the articles in The Watchtower that we have studied. One commented on Micah 6:8, noting that being modest in walking with God means knowing one?s limitations. This helped me to appreciate that in spite of my condition, I should not get discouraged, even though the time I spent in the ministry was less than I wished. Serving him with pure motives is primarily what counts."

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She also reports: "The elders always commended me for my efforts to attend the meetings and to go out in the field ministry. Young ones would greet me with a hug. The pioneer ministers were so patient with me and often rearranged their plans on my bad days. When the weather was difficult, they would kindly take me on return visits or invite me to sit in on their Bible studies. And since I could not carry a book bag, other publishers put my literature in their bag when I went out in the preaching work."