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  Are You A Screwed Up Adult Because You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  or did it not matter that you were ever a witness---you're a bit screwy, anyway?.

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  av8orntexas

  Benrengaria,

  You sound as if you were one of the ones who thought for themself.
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  Are You A Screwed Up Adult Because You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  or did it not matter that you were ever a witness---you're a bit screwy, anyway?.

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  av8orntexas

  Benrengaria,

  Thanks. I really appreciate the kind words. To have my mom tell it, I'm the MOST unthankful child in the world. Of course by JW standards

  I used to really think something was wrong with me and I needed to be a better person listening to that brother. I can say when I was in, it messed with my head. Because I thought I was fine. But you know how it is. You must be lowly and humble to point of being a doormat.
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  Are You A Screwed Up Adult Because You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  or did it not matter that you were ever a witness---you're a bit screwy, anyway?.

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  av8orntexas

  I'm good. Better now that I left.

  I had a 'friend' a brother who would always tell me I needed to work on this, work on that. It was always something wrong with me.

  Now that I don't go or talk with him much, I realize nothing is wrong with me. I'm fine. I led a pretty normal kids life before baptism. I played baseball,football and track since about 7,8 all the way up until my seniot year of high school. I had normal non-witness friends. I was a solid A-B student.

  Then when I got baptized at 19 I had to put on my 'new personality'. Looking back, I was a normal teenage kid,but getting baptized slowed my normal groweth through my early to mid 20's. Put off things I should have done. Didn't buy a house at 24,25 because the 'new system' would be here. Why invest in this world ?

  Plus I was living at home. I can't stress how much living at home in your parents house in your 20's can stunt your growth even MORE being a witness. More so IMO than if you lived at home and WEREN'T a witness. The amount of control and guilt that your parents can wield over you. The threats of going to the elders, especially if you're a brother trying to reach out. Any hint of discord at home, a temper,no self control and you're toast !

  I was that guy you'd probably think,'he'd make a good witness.' Looking back, I didn't need to put on any new personality. Like lots of other people, and many on here my mom raised me well. So there was nothing the organization could do to make me a new person or better person. My mom had done that already.

  I think they take fine,normal people and make them think they need to change when they don't.

  But all said....I'm good. I'm in a good place. I'm in my 30's, I'm young.
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  I can't remember the 'Most Important Date of My Life!' Can you?

  by Diest in

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  i honestly cant remember the exact date when i was baptized.

  it does not bother me one bit.

  i didnt have it stamped in that shitty reasoning book/babel that i got at the time, so i guess the only place i could find it would be my cards, which are far away..

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  February 3rd,1996, Jose Lind gave the talk. I was 19.

  2 days after my birthday is why I remember. It's important because I wasted the next 10-12 years because of that day. Good grief charlie brown

  A Stone Crying Out, Not really. You could have gone to Bethel just to meet women. I know a brother who did this. Aside from going because your friends went, I always thought that was one of the worst reasons to go.

  I know people who went for both reasons.
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  They don't think you can truly be happy "outside"

  by lilbluekitty in

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  i was on the phone with my mom last night (she's an uber-dub with a don't ask, don't tell type policy where we basically just don't discuss the fact that i celebrate holidays and go to church regularly etc.

  ) and she said she was talking to one of my old friends from the hall there.

  the friend asked my mom how i've been and my mom said she made a face and kind of went "ehhh..." and talked about my lack of meeting attendance (she doesn't know it's way more than that) and my friend shook her head and said, "aw, that's too bad, but i've been in ruts like that before" as though i'm just depressed and don't feel like going lately.

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  av8orntexas

  I've NEVER been doing better in my life than at the current moment.

  Yet my mom browbeasts me to death with the same thing.

  She always tells me I'm doing bad. I ask how ? Tell me specifically I ask.

  All she can ever come up with is, "You don't go to the meetings,you don't serve Jehovah."

  I told her man........ " if I had no job, 8 kids, 4 baby mamas, and a drug habit I'd hate to know how you really feel."

  I've never given my mom grief or trouble EVER. I'm stable,independent,no kids,I work hard. Her favorite word is unthankful. She tells me this all the time. It used to hurt. But now it just pisses me off and pushes me even farther from her. The Dubs have her mind and I blame them.

  $##^*&^ them. If it weren't for them I think my mom and I would get along better. We do,but take out the witnesses and it would be much better.
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  Do Jehovah witnesses exploit the most vulnerable in society?

  by Blind_Of_Lies in

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  during my final few years being active with the jws i noticed that the vast majority of people who were studying or joining the group in general where those that the rest of society would consider disabled and/or severely mentally ill. now by disabled i dont mean i lost my leg in nam kind of disabled... in some cases these people were mentally retarded, had the minds of children, were severely abused as children or even as adults and as a result had personality disorders that put them on the edge of society.... and then we had the full on crazies... about 15 years ago one of the brothers who worked at the local welfare office somehow started a study with a person who was a paranoid schizophrenic.

  he met her because she was a client of the welfare office.

  she got handed off to a sister who studied with her, then started driving her to her doctors appointments, and to get grocerys, and took her to congregation events.

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  I agree they'll take anybody.

  But those who are having a hard time in life; Sickness,financial problems,jobless,any problems.......

  Those who are already in a position of dire need and looking for something positive...well boy do we have something for you ! The JW's may fill the need for comfort. If life is REALLY bad, paradise and living forvever sound great. Especially if you don't have the means or support to weather whatever issues you may be having. My mom blew off my aunt ( who has been a witness since before I was born ) and JW's for YEARS. My mom had a great job,would go to Atlantic City ( before I came along ) traveled. Even after divorcing my dad,my mom blew the witnesses off.

  But when she encountered problems with my stepdad,they sucked her right in and played on that.

  They aren't interested in helping you with your problems. Its how can I use your issues for selfish gain to recruit you.
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  Do you stil have Jw stuff

  by d in

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  i still have jw stuff like bibles and watchtower i have to get rid of.

  do you any of you guys and girls here have stuff you to get rid of..

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  av8orntexas

  When I see magazines at work,or in public I throw them in the trash. I used to feel bad even after I had stopped going.

  Does anyone else do that ?
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  Do you stil have Jw stuff

  by d in

  1. watchtower
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  i still have jw stuff like bibles and watchtower i have to get rid of.

  do you any of you guys and girls here have stuff you to get rid of..

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  av8orntexas

  I have a TON of books. Just about everything. Not as many magazines I used to have.

  My Mother lives 8 hours away,but I really hate to her her go on and on and on when she visits about that junk if I were to throw it out. It's been gradual. She used to call me and say lets do the watchtower over the phone. Stopped that. Then it was lets read the daily text. Stopped that. Then it was read a scripture to her over the phone. Stopped that. I'm like what am I your husband,head of household ? Then she brings the magazines when she visits. They pretty much sit in the same spot she leaves them in. I haven't cracked open a magazine in over 2-3 years now. I've browsed a few....ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  charliebrown,

  I still have briefcase fully packed with everything from my last meeting. Looking at it as I type.........Apparently I left off at the December 15,2008 Watchtower.

  Some of the lessons ?

  Why keep your integrity ?

  Will you hold fast to your integrity ?

  Determined to bear thorough witness.

  I must say this briefcase has been sitting in my corner for a while and it is mighty dusty.
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  What would WTS do if a KH with a loan didnt pay them back ?

  by mP in

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  what if the brothers and sisters at a cong ran into bad luck and couldnt afford to pay for a while.

  what happens ?.

  yes i know about the menlo park thing in california, but this is a slightly different case..

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  My serious answer to the question , I don't know. It's something to think about.

  My dumb answer to the question: They'd priobably tell the congregation to pray to Jehovah and study more.

  Thats the answer I always got when I was younger and would stupidly go to the elders with a problem.
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  Some Witnesses Seem To Relish Bad News

  by EmptyInside in

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  it may be just my imagination,but sometimes i think witnesses get overly excited when a natural disaster or some violent event happens.

  i guess they feel it proves their point on how awful things are.. my mother seems to be this way.

  she seemed elated to tell me about a couple shootings that took place in our city today.

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  They relish bad news of others for sure I know that. Disasters and such ? A bit yes. But others ? Oh yes.

  If you're on the edge, not deemed very spiritual. The first mis-step you make it's like a big, "I knew it !", or "I told you !".

  I think they really get off on certain others going through rough times. Anything to validate Jehovah, the organization or why you should be at the Kingdom Hall.