MillieJW - no I did not continue to believe in Jehovah after I left. While stopping being a JW thing was a very very quick decision (ie I started watching expecting it to be sensationalist and by 3/4 of the way through I no longer considered myself a JW), stopping believing in Jehovah was a gradual process: leaving the JWs had made me more determined to cling to Jehovah, Jesus, and the Bible. I'm not going to go into my reasons because I really don't want to overwhelm you and what made me lose faith might not even matter to you.
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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST
by DannyHaszard inman escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST
by DannyHaszard inman escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
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Hi milliejw, and welcome!
I left the JWs in 2002 after an episode of Panorama talked about how disgusting the "child protection policy" is (or was). So this "man" getting away with abusing children for 14 years didn't surprise me at all. :(
That was the only reason I left, but some of the stuff (facts, not slander as some may have pre-conceived ideas about) on a wide variety of issues that I was able to find out from here made my hair stand on end. So please do stick around and read!
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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST
by DannyHaszard inman escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
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Never mind, found it.
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Tracy Barlow found guilty
by needproof in...and that makes me a very sad individual for watching!
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sorry u.s. folks, brits will know what i am talking about.
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Karen MacDonald on Corrie was an ex-dub.
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Shocking Baby Names
by horrible life inmy daughter and i were discussing jw doctrine, on the long trip home from skiing.
she is sooo glad she has a normal life.
we also discussed buzz words, and what jw's think about many things.
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There was a toddler in the bonny baby competition supplement of our local paper a few years ago who was named Pagan.
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Merry Becomes A Muslim (a bit long)
by Merry Magdalene inwho is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
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Merry - do you think you'll be moving to a larger city soon so you can associate with your Muslim brothers and sisters fully?
Otherwise, mum's friend attends a mosque quite near us (10 min drive, ish - there are 2 closer but that's the one her family attends), and they radio broadcast all the services, so even if she isn't there (it's a very liberal mosque, but there still seems lots of reasons she's not allowed to attend: if she has her period, or sometimes I think it's only men allowed!) she can listen to the services while she's doing whatever - I assume this would be handy for Muslim taxi drivers and stuff too. The Imam conducts the services both English and Arabic. It might be worth ringing your "local" :) mosque and seeing if they have this. Otherwise there might be a phone link-up... nowadays there's probably a podcast! :D
He's been dead for nearly 1400 years, but only lived to the mores of his time period. Judging him by modern day standards is ridiculous. The chances are that you don't have to go too far back in your own family tree to find someone who married an under 16 year old. Do I need to condemn you the way that you are condemning others?
Oh absolutely I'm sure some will have been married under 16, but I'm not following any of them as an alleged prophet *after having left a religion because of a similar issue*.
I know we're doing this to death and I *do* get your point, but for *me* following a man from such a very backward age (Jesus 600+ years earlier didn't have sex with little girls did he?! :D ) after leaving the confines and scandal of the JWs would be a step backward too. :) -
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Merry Becomes A Muslim (a bit long)
by Merry Magdalene inwho is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
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Yeah I read the links, it's nothing I hadn't read before though.
If the brand of Islam that Merry were supporting were encouraging paedophilia then you'd have a point, but as it is your comments seem misplaced. Should I reject all Christian denominations because the Catholic church has had its problems (which it appears to be seeking to address)? It would be a very black and white approach to life, much akin to the attitude we learnt from the WTS!
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Merry Becomes A Muslim (a bit long)
by Merry Magdalene inwho is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
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The paedophile scandal was the *only* cause of me leaving the JWs, so it stuck out for me in your post. It's not the only thing that offends me about the JWs at all, but I'd *never* have found out about the other stuff if I hadn't found out about the paedophile scandal, as I always sort of assumed there'd be no *true* anti-JW info online (!) so never even looked! So since you left because of this too, I'm putting myself in your shoes.
It doesn't matter to me how smart she was or how she was treated. The paedophile scandal makes the JWs an unacceptable and immoral leadership (IMO), but the Holy Prophet (says him) is worthy of following despite it?
Also you said you looked at apostate Muslim sites - how come you didn't believe them?
My mum's closest friend is a Muslim (born and raised) and we looked into Islam a lot more when she moved in and we met her. I went to a school that was 60% Muslim (was great not to be the only kid not celebrating Christmas!), my friend's dad converted (now a spiritualist though)... so I'm *not* an "OMFG Muslims! Aaarrgh run away!" person at *all*. :D I just think it's BS the same way I think the Witnesses were BS. :D Edit: got no idea why it's not keeping my paragraphs, Automatic Cr/Lf used to do it but it's not been working... :( -
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Merry Becomes A Muslim (a bit long)
by Merry Magdalene inwho is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
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And we used to put kids down mines and up chimneys in the olden days too. It would be ridiculous in the 21st Century to follow a religion made up by a violent Victorian child-labour-using mine owner wouldn't it.
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Merry Becomes A Muslim (a bit long)
by Merry Magdalene inwho is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
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Merry That's OK, I hope you *are* thinking about it. The paedophile scandal is the reason I left the JWs, I would be a hypocrite if I then joined a faith that revered a paedophile as God's last prophet. I might as well have stayed a JW (or gone back!) and defended their policy.