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  Demons, hallucinations, hypnotism, and our brains.

  by seven006 in

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  i haven't posted much lately because of time restraints but i still do read the board as often as i can.

  in the past few days the subject of demons and personal sanity has come up in a few threads.

  i would like to add a few thoughts on the subject based on some personal research in the areas of psychology, hypnotism, hallucination, and a basic study of the human brain.. everything a person has seen, heard, touched, smelled or tasted in their life time has been processed and stored in their brain.

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  Yes, a very interesting thread. I'll add an experience that a group of classmates and I experienced back in the early '70's. (and no "orange sunshine" involved). A couple of us got together from our psychology class after I read about an experience Joseph Pearce had reported in his book. We would let the TA (teaching assistant) who knew how to hypnotize us, put the two of us under, then get each of us to take the other to the next level. At each level, we would describe what we saw and then proceed to the next...After several levels (I recall about 5), we had created a common picture of a world where, it appeared, we could have a conversation that was completely encapsulated in the hypnotic environment. In other words, the group that was observing us didn't hear a verbal conversation between us, but we both related the same things that were said. The person I did this with was so taken aback by the whole thing, she refused to do it again. The people I tried it with afterward, were unable to get to that depth...anyway, since then, I've had a slightly tilted look at how the brain and what we call "mind" function. I have to admit, the witness time put a temporary lid on the search for the meaning of this, but now??????????????????????????

  BadJerry
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  What's wrong with us in South Florida?

  by Trotafox in

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  i live in broward county, florida...unfortunate harborer of mohammed atta and other terrorists.. next door is (drum roll please)...palm beach county...home of the "we don't know how to vote" crowd.. also next door to (drum roll please)....miami/dade county....the "hanging chad" county.

  and i work next door to the country's largest petroleum tank farm (port everglades...which also houses florida power and light company.).

  and now, lo and behold, we are in the news again.

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  Maybe repost this in January - for those of us living on the frozen tundra of the U.S. plains in January with the temp at -30 F, the wind blowing out of the north at 40 mph, the sunny beaches of Florida look MIGHTY inviting....

  BadJerry (unpacking long-johns, mittens and winter parka)
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  WHAT KEEPS YOU HERE?

  by plmkrzy in

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  either surfing the net using key words jehovah" .

  or someone we know told us about it.

  i found this place after logging on to watchers of the watch tower.

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  I get to find out what's on the wife(y)'s [Imanaliento] mind, before I come home from work! Oh, I'm not supposed to be here during work??? Another secret out!
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  MIND RAPE?

  by bay64me in

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  i read something recently, possibly, (no probably) here, on the subject of mind rape.

  my encounter with the jws was kind of self inflicted, i.e.

  i was not brought up in it.. i am sort of coming to the conclusion, that is meaning, that with my association with the witnesses and reading here, that those that were introduced to this particular form of mind control later on in life, seem to be more adversly affected mentally than those that have the misfortune of being 'brought up in the faith'.

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  I entered the shadow of the watchtower at 35. As to being more adversely affected, I don't think so. The difference, IMHO, is that when one enters as an adult, they give up and walk away from their life and friends. I did! The result is, now that we have left that shadow, we're finding our true friends and family hadn't abandoned us. They were just waiting for us to return (come to our senses). On the other hand, those that I know who have grown up with only the watchtower as their guide in life, have to make choices about their life that they may not be equipped to make to the benefit of their growth. Youth, as I remember it, was the time to test the waters, to see which direction to go, to grow up and be allowed to make mistakes. Those who grew up as a witness now are leaving their cloistured lifestyle, the time for experimentation may have passed.

  I'm finding it much easier walking away compared to the many on this board...but my (our) family was on the outside waiting...maybe that's the difference.

  BadJerry
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  WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???

  by minimus in

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  i've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.

  do you believe this?

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  I asked the elder who studied w/ us that exact question. His response, "If that's what is asked, that's what I'll do!". Yes, it did make the hair on my neck stand up, but he made such a convincing argument (Ok, reality check, I had the blinders on, along w/ the collar and leash by that time). This man was in the military (WW2), has a collection of big-bore rifles, and hunts regularly. There is no doubt in my mind he would pick up one of those cannons and blow the head off of whoever the GB told him to, including me or his Df'd son!

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  Has there been a policy change?

  by Mulan in

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  my mother told us last night that her po told her we are disassociated.

  no announcement was made.

  she is upset, and i told her i would call him.. at first she didn't want me to do that, but later changed her mind.. so, i left a message on his answering machine.he will call me.........he always returns my calls.

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  Its amazing for an organization that is supposed to think in one mind, they handle things so differently. In our case, I asked them to define "leaving the faith", but they wouldn't (or couldn't). They wanted us to tell them to remove our names from their "book". (like their book of names has any Christian value or something). So in our situation, they made us make the decision. Sounds like there's disunity in the WTS universe. (Super Nova time, maybe??????)

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  *COVERT OPERATION* THE STORY

  by zev in

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  first, thanks to all of you for your experiences, and replies, and for the tremendous amount of hits the site has received [842 as of this morning-in just over 72 hours.

  ]--- now thats spreading the "truth" (tm) isn't it?

  the thread is here : http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35808&site=3 .

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  Thanks for the report and the courage to follow thru. Also, thanks for the idea to record the conversation. Did that for my final meeting (I think) with the elders. Its truly amazing how, as you listen again to what was said, you realize what a pile of cr*p it is.

  So now that you've been certified, how about a mission to NY to get those 23,000+ files exposed? My son and I would volunteer to "run cover" for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  BadJerry
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  Can anyone recommend books?

  by ballistic in

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  i read crisis of c, now what?

  actually doesn't have to be about the dubs - i think i may over-load on dub-doom if i read anymore witness business.

  anyone recommend something else.

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  A completely different look -"Crack in the Cosmic Egg" - Joseph Chilton Pearce

  Book will give you a completely different perspective on what we consider reality. And from all the books everyone suggested, may I add Eveylin Woods 7 day Speed Reading Course (it's like $3.95U.S.). It helped me go from a snail's pace (couple hundred words a minute) to over 1200 wpm. You can really burn through books at that rate. But be warned - it sticks with you. I find myself being able quote WTS books in my sleep because of her course...

  Back to the books,

  BadJerry
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  They're Baaaaaaack

  by BadJerry in

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  just got off the phone w/ the elder that was supposed to meet me in the parking lot.

  all i felt was pity for this poor man who couldn't come out and say what he was really feeling.

  instead, just excuses.... 1. meeting in the parking lot - they just wanted to meet there for my convienence.

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  Just got off the phone w/ the elder that was supposed to meet me in the parking lot. All I felt was pity for this poor man who couldn't come out and say what he was really feeling. Instead, just excuses...

  1. Meeting in the parking lot - they just wanted to meet there for MY convienence. Told him next time we can meet in my office. The chairs probably are more comfortable. His response was he wanted to "visit" with both of us, at the hall or at our home or anywhere else we might want to meet. (I'm thinking a nice restaurant or a beach in the Bahamas, and have them pick up the bill??????)

  2a. No contact for two weeks - the letter Jackie sent, letting them know I waited and her feelings about the parking lot meeting seems to have fallen behind his desk...thus the lateness of the call.

  2b. The PO had to go to Colorado to attend to family matters (lever transplant for brother). We have 9 elders, you'd think they could have someone fill in for him.

  I'm not even sure I want to meet with them. The verbal battle might be fun, but up to now its just, the only word I can think of now, pathetic. The letters say how we feel. And they've already told the people at the hall not to talk w/ us...as my boss is known for saying, "I don't think we have a dog in this fight." Any input would be appreciated.

  Can't wait to hear what the wife says,

  Still the,
  BadJerry!
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  Just for fun?

  by Been there in

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  inspired by stephanus's mysterious ruth and how the story is unfolding..........it would be kinda fun to start a story and have everyone contribute to it to see what we can come up with.. there are so many talanted writers on this board.. anyone care to start?

  i'm not good at starting a story, but will have no problem in jumping in.. any ideas for a story line?

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  "My Step-dad made me do it...", she exclaimed, clutching her not so unreal lamb. Suddenly she woke up from the nightmare! Was it really over? Or was this just the beginning of the story?

  Hey Simon,

  Why not a special catagory for this? We did this once at work. It was great and helped lot's of us relieve hostile tendencies. Of, course, several of the people who were active in it lost their jobs during the last round of "downsizing", but Simon wouldn't do that , would he????????????????????

  BadJerry