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Posts by els
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45What's Your Favorite Quote?
by Perry ini ran across this recently.
so, i guess its my new favorite quote.
"the difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'.
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Theocratic War Strategy & "Phenomenal ...
by Scully ini called my mother yesterday and for some reason, the conversation drifted into dub-talk.
she was upset that some of my siblings were still at home, not concerned about looking for jobs or pursuing some kind of job training (the acceptable term for "going back to school", apparently).
none of these siblings are baptized, so pioneering is not even an issue.. anyway, i suggested that maybe they were discouraged because people around them (dubs, in particular) were harping on the idea that armageddon was "just around the corner" and that it seemed like a waste of time to pursue those activities.
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And the wooly-bear catipillars are all black this year so the end must be comming soon....oops...I mean we're going to have a bad winter...or is that when they're all brown?...I'm confused. els
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CoC on Hold for Me
by out4good3 ingot a copy of crisis of conscious 2nd ed.
on hold for me at a library.
will most likely be picking it up tommorrow after i get off from work.
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I'm about halfway through with it. I would have to say, plan on keeping it till you're done. I have been out for a long time and didn't really believe alot of things despite being raised in it. But reading this book has me totally stunned. The callous, uncaring attitudes of these men who are supposed to be guided by God's spirit make me sick. I have found out so many things that I never had a clue about. I won'tsay more because I don't want to ruin it for you. els
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Would You Now Feel Uncomfortable Taking Blood?
by minimus innow that you know about the truth of the blood doctrine, would you feel, even a little bit uncomfortable agreeing to take a blood transfusion?
btw, my mother asked me if i would still honor her wishes for refusal of blood.
i told her that even though my view has changed, i would respect her decision, even if i felt that it was wrong.
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I never did really believe that it was wrong. It always seemed to me that the fact that blood could save your life went along with the idea of it being sacred. Maybe because I never believed the possibility or the desirability of everlasting life I felt and still feel that life is worth saving in almost any circumstance.
The whole issue of getting a disease from blood is the only thing that has changed my thinking. I would still take blood though if it was the only way to save my life or that of someone I love.
One thing I find ironic is that my oldest brother has the say if anything happens to our parents and he's the one who was disfellowshipped for years and years. Oh well, life is strange. els -
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About Coqui's thread...
by els ini have been following coqui's posts about being df'd or da'd without a judicial comittee meeting or a letter of disassociation.
if you want you can read my profile to get a little history, but my current situation is that i haven't heard from my family since the end of june.
that was when i told them i supported my son in joining the army and that i had no intention of ever being a witness again.
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Amazing, How did you find out that you had been DA'd? I have a wierd feeling that it has already happened and I just don't know about it.
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About Coqui's thread...
by els ini have been following coqui's posts about being df'd or da'd without a judicial comittee meeting or a letter of disassociation.
if you want you can read my profile to get a little history, but my current situation is that i haven't heard from my family since the end of june.
that was when i told them i supported my son in joining the army and that i had no intention of ever being a witness again.
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I have been following Coqui's posts about being DF'd or DA'd without a judicial comittee meeting or a letter of disassociation. If you want you can read my profile to get a little history, but my current situation is that I haven't heard from my family since the end of June. That was when I told them I supported my son in joining the Army and that I had no intention of ever being a witness again. I had a visit from a couple of JW men (elders?) a few weeks ago and told them the same thing. I had the feeling they were there to find out where I stood.
A few of you have written that you can be DA'd without writing a letter, that it can be announced that you have DA'd yourself. My question is; If they do this do they let you know that this announcement is going to be made or has been made?
At this point it really doesn't make a difference I think they are going to take the hard line whether I write the letter or not I would just like to know.
I had a thought while I was reading these threads that perhaps sites like these have helped to cause the new strictness about this. So many people write about wanting to "fade away" so the won't lose contact with their loved ones. We know that active JW's lurk around these sites, perhaps even men in positions of authority. Maybe they decided they would put an end to that option. Not that I would want to chance a thing about this site, I think it has kept me from losing it several times. It was just an idea that came to me. els -
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A BIG THANK YOU to the board
by TTBoy ini just wanted to thank you all (esp.
the wt quotes and news paper links) so i can prepare an effective and accurate argument to provide my uncle in nc.
my sister is going to visit him this wednesday and i should have around 25 pages, for a start, to show him valid points and media coverage.
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TT, Good luck with your uncle. Let us know how it goes.
As far as my family goes, I faded away a long time ago,but I don't know where I stand right now. When my son went to basic training for the army this summer I kind of had to tell them, it was going to come up at some point. "Where is Sean, what is he doing this summer?" So I wrote a letter and told them about it and that I was proud of him and that I supported him and while I was at it I threw in that I had no intention of being a witness again. My mother wrote back that she was sorry about my decision and that they should have stopped seeing us when we first stopped going to meetings years ago. I haven't heard from them since.
I did however get a visit from two witnesses that I assume were elders and I told them basically the same thing. They asked if I had considered writing a letter of disassociation and I told them I was deciding whether that was necessary or not. Before they left they extended an invitation to come back to the meetings and I told them not to hold their breath. That's the last contact I've had but I wonder if they are going to try to DA me without a letter. I've heard that has happened lately. Have you?
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A BIG THANK YOU to the board
by TTBoy ini just wanted to thank you all (esp.
the wt quotes and news paper links) so i can prepare an effective and accurate argument to provide my uncle in nc.
my sister is going to visit him this wednesday and i should have around 25 pages, for a start, to show him valid points and media coverage.
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TT, I am just at the point of getting to know everyone on the board. You said you were in for 20 years but you look young. Were you raised as a witness? What sort of topics are you going to present to your father? Just things about the child molestation or other things? I am thinking about doing something similar with my mother and father. I was going to keep my mouth shut because they are elderly and it's their whole life but things that have happened lately have made me really mad. I guess I'm feeling the need to punch a few holes in their beliefs. Maybe I can wake up someone in the family. els
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Comments That You Will Not Hear at the WTS 9-22-02
by blondie inwt study for the week of september 16 to 22, 2002. stirred by "the magnificent things of god"acts 2:11. snippets of scriptures abound in this weeks lesson starting with the theme scripture.
it is interesting what the wts thinks are "the magnificent things of god.
" acts chapter 2 records the events concerning the founding of the christian congregation, the giving of holy spirit to those gathered with the outward sign of speaking in tongues.
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Aren't pantie lines sloppy, untidy or unkempt? A nice thong would prevent that. els
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Block Island
by els inwe are going out there in october.
my inlaws have a house there.
i love the island so much, can't wait to be there.
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CC, We always take the car cause we have so much stuff to take usually. My inlaws are elderly so we do alot of upkeep on the house for them. We plan to move, probably to CN so we will be closer to the island. Right now it's a 5 and a half hour drive to get to the ferry. The house will eventually belong to my husband and his brother so it would be nice to be closer. I would love to live there when we retire so the stock market had better cooperate. LOL What is your favorite beach there? els