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  Gaslighting abuse

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a former wt member, would you say the wts intentionally abuses it's members in the form of gaslighting?.

  gaslighting or gas-lighting is a form of mental abuse in which information is twisted/spun, selectively omitted to favor the abuser, or false information is presented with the intent of making victims doubt their own memory, perception and sanity.. sociopaths frequently use gaslighting tactics.

  sociopaths consistently transgress social mores, break laws, and exploit others, but typically, are also charming and convincing liarswho consistently deny wrongdoing.

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  Illuminated

  As a former WT member, would you say the WTS intentionally abuses it's members in the form of Gaslighting?

  Gaslighting or gas-lighting is a form of mental abuse in which information is twisted/spun, selectively omitted to favor the abuser, or false information is presented with the intent of making victims doubt their own memory, perception and sanity.

  Sociopaths frequently use gaslighting tactics. Sociopaths consistently transgress social mores, break laws, and exploit others, but typically, are also charming and convincing liarswho consistently deny wrongdoing. Thus, some who have been victimized by sociopaths may doubt their perceptions.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
  
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  Wow - Scientology is so similar to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently watched this excellent interview with ex members of scientology.

  i was blown with how much former members sound like ex jehovah's witnesses.

  both organizations are so similar.. here's a link to the interview:.

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  Thank you for the suggestion proglemaddict! Is your wife fully out? 

  It's one thing to read an informative book about cults such as Combatting Cult Mind Control, but when watching Youtube videos of other cult members sounding like JW's, it very much confirms it.
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  Are people really happy at Bethel?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if they are this happy, why do they keep taking down this video?

  :).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evulyocziz8&feature=youtu.be.

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  Cappytan check out the video I posted above your comment. That was the thought I had. 
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  Are people really happy at Bethel?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if they are this happy, why do they keep taking down this video?

  :).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evulyocziz8&feature=youtu.be.

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  Illuminated

  When was that video created/published? 

  I ask because John Cedars and former JWs made a similar video with similar intentions and the same song playing last year:

  http://youtu.be/Hpp2SDkgdGo
  
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  Wow - Scientology is so similar to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently watched this excellent interview with ex members of scientology.

  i was blown with how much former members sound like ex jehovah's witnesses.

  both organizations are so similar.. here's a link to the interview:.

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  Scientology is fun--at first. It's all about YOU. But, after the first 3 levels, the clamps of the cult kick in.

  Levels--sounds Masonic.
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  Wow - Scientology is so similar to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently watched this excellent interview with ex members of scientology.

  i was blown with how much former members sound like ex jehovah's witnesses.

  both organizations are so similar.. here's a link to the interview:.

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  Illuminated

  Simon that's a good point. So in other words, they are intentionally applying mind control cult tactics?
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  Wow - Scientology is so similar to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently watched this excellent interview with ex members of scientology.

  i was blown with how much former members sound like ex jehovah's witnesses.

  both organizations are so similar.. here's a link to the interview:.

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  Illuminated

  In my late teens/early 20's, I was often a magnet for different cults attempting to lure me in. 

  I remember Scientology carts and tables all over Los Angeles at that time. A Scientologist pulled me over and discussed the organization as I was walking by. He handed over the book Dianetics to take home. I remember how fascinating the book was after reading a few chapters and was planning on going to a meeting until a friend informed me it was a cult. 

  Scientology has taken over Hollywood. Their buildings are everywhere. My love was invited to the Celebrity Center once when he was disfellowshipped. He later told me how robotic everyone was and strongly felt it was a cult. Ironic.

  Watching the interview made me feel like I was on this board. 
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  Wow - Scientology is so similar to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently watched this excellent interview with ex members of scientology.

  i was blown with how much former members sound like ex jehovah's witnesses.

  both organizations are so similar.. here's a link to the interview:.

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  Illuminated

  I recently watched this excellent interview with ex members of Scientology. I was blown with how much former members sound like ex Jehovah's Witnesses. Both organizations are so similar.

  Here's a link to the interview:
  

  http://youtu.be/iE3e-Ox3NMI 

  What do Jehovah's Witnesses as a whole think about Scientology?
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  JWs and Multiple Personality Disorder

  by Illuminated in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember the first time i was hit with my loves cult personality.

  knowing the real him, my jaw dropped witnessing this switch.

  i thought he had lost it.

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  rebel8 thank you for clarifying. Prior to creating this thread, a friend of mine had mentioned DID/dissociative disorder when I spoke to her about the natural self being split from the cult personality. I googled the info a bit prior to creating this thread, but was further confused in the articles I read. 

  Hassan did't mention DID in the video--my mistake in thinking it was the same thing. He did respond to another question stating many professionals misdiagnose cult member's symptoms when it's actually a cause of the cult.
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  JWs and Multiple Personality Disorder

  by Illuminated in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember the first time i was hit with my loves cult personality.

  knowing the real him, my jaw dropped witnessing this switch.

  i thought he had lost it.

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  Illuminated

  Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm still a bit confused and  perhaps I'm not understanding DID fully. I did watch this video...http://youtu.be/MduiLRExRyc

  At 30:36 Steve Hassan says:

  "As a mental health professional I would talk about mind control as a dissociative disorder where you're split from yourself, from your true self or your authentic self and part of the healing is feeling your feelings, having your thoughts and developing a tool kit for reality testing..."