To get back on topic...my only point was that it is not surprising that there was not an exodus from the UCC or the UU concerning this issue. There have certainly been other denominations that have had a different take on the issue such as the baptists, episcopals and some of the more orthodox (or traditional if you prefer) faiths. Thats it...not making a judgement, just making a comment. I hope it generates some meaningful discussion for people.
rwagoner
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Gay Marriage Cause No Real Defections In UCC Church
by Enigma One insix months after becoming the largest christian denomination to endorse same-sex marriage, the united church of christ (ucc) reported that less than 1 percent of its churches have separated from the denomination.
the ucc report, issued thursday, noted that 49 churches -- out of 5,725 churches total -- have voted to disaffiliate, and nearly all of those cited disagreement with the ucc marriage equality resolution, adopted in early july.
"the number of departing churches is far fewer than some had earlier expected," said john h. thomas, president and general minister of the ucc.
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Gay Marriage Cause No Real Defections In UCC Church
by Enigma One insix months after becoming the largest christian denomination to endorse same-sex marriage, the united church of christ (ucc) reported that less than 1 percent of its churches have separated from the denomination.
the ucc report, issued thursday, noted that 49 churches -- out of 5,725 churches total -- have voted to disaffiliate, and nearly all of those cited disagreement with the ucc marriage equality resolution, adopted in early july.
"the number of departing churches is far fewer than some had earlier expected," said john h. thomas, president and general minister of the ucc.
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rwagoner
if he adamantly refuses to even consider changing his viewpoint
I guess I must have missed where either of us did that. I said that I "don't plan" on changing my opinion but certainly did not exclude the possibility entirely. I think you may also be assuming that I have not discussed and considered the pros and cons of my opinions. Rest assured my opinions were reached after lengthy discussion and heartfelt consideration. But thanks for your concern.
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Gay Marriage Cause No Real Defections In UCC Church
by Enigma One insix months after becoming the largest christian denomination to endorse same-sex marriage, the united church of christ (ucc) reported that less than 1 percent of its churches have separated from the denomination.
the ucc report, issued thursday, noted that 49 churches -- out of 5,725 churches total -- have voted to disaffiliate, and nearly all of those cited disagreement with the ucc marriage equality resolution, adopted in early july.
"the number of departing churches is far fewer than some had earlier expected," said john h. thomas, president and general minister of the ucc.
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rwagoner
discussion is a wonderful thing...but I really have no interest in debating my opinion...I offered it and enjoy reading the opinions of others but since I dont plan on changing my opinion nor am I interested in trying to get you, or anyone else to change yours, I'll leave it at that.
I also dont need to defend the bible...you either believe it or you don't. I don't make a judgement either way.
I hope you a great day..filled with meaningful discussion !
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Gay Marriage Cause No Real Defections In UCC Church
by Enigma One insix months after becoming the largest christian denomination to endorse same-sex marriage, the united church of christ (ucc) reported that less than 1 percent of its churches have separated from the denomination.
the ucc report, issued thursday, noted that 49 churches -- out of 5,725 churches total -- have voted to disaffiliate, and nearly all of those cited disagreement with the ucc marriage equality resolution, adopted in early july.
"the number of departing churches is far fewer than some had earlier expected," said john h. thomas, president and general minister of the ucc.
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rwagoner
no offense taken....your observations are yours..and mine are mine...I'd bet that neither are about to change.
you can believe scripture or not. the discussion was about religion so I quoted scripture...if it had been about politics I would have quoted Newt G. or Ronald R. and we still might disagree.
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Gay Marriage Cause No Real Defections In UCC Church
by Enigma One insix months after becoming the largest christian denomination to endorse same-sex marriage, the united church of christ (ucc) reported that less than 1 percent of its churches have separated from the denomination.
the ucc report, issued thursday, noted that 49 churches -- out of 5,725 churches total -- have voted to disaffiliate, and nearly all of those cited disagreement with the ucc marriage equality resolution, adopted in early july.
"the number of departing churches is far fewer than some had earlier expected," said john h. thomas, president and general minister of the ucc.
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rwagoner
Now I know that I won't be popular....but personally I think it is less about God and limited education and more about political correctness and keeping membership numbers....the UCC is comonly known for more "PC" and less Orthodox teaching anyway.
2 Timothy 4: 2-5
2 Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage with great patience and careful instruction.
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4 They will turn their ears away from sound teachings and turn aside to myths.
5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.
not meant to offend...just an observation.
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May a JW mail carrier deliver mail to a church?
by Bonnie_Clyde inwe've already discussed the 3-15-06 wt about a self-employed contractor not being able to paint one of the churches of christendom.
well read on.
paragraph 13 asks, "what about performing a legitimate service, such as delivering mail everywhere in a community, including places that promote wrong practices?
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rwagoner
My mind is racing...I just let this go.....what about in their chosen custodial enterprises...
No more cleaning the following...I mean how could their conscience stand it ????
toy stores...they might sell smurfs
video store..they might sell R or worse movies
salons...they might trim beards in there - on the inhumanity
grocery stores...might sell blod sausauge or even worse...Count Chocula cereal !!!! EEEEEEK !
LOL sorry...getting out of hand...I know LOL
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May a JW mail carrier deliver mail to a church?
by Bonnie_Clyde inwe've already discussed the 3-15-06 wt about a self-employed contractor not being able to paint one of the churches of christendom.
well read on.
paragraph 13 asks, "what about performing a legitimate service, such as delivering mail everywhere in a community, including places that promote wrong practices?
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rwagoner
Oh My...I almost forgot.....those evil, evil colleges ! To say nothing of the misleading satanic newspaper publishers and media outlets....
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May a JW mail carrier deliver mail to a church?
by Bonnie_Clyde inwe've already discussed the 3-15-06 wt about a self-employed contractor not being able to paint one of the churches of christendom.
well read on.
paragraph 13 asks, "what about performing a legitimate service, such as delivering mail everywhere in a community, including places that promote wrong practices?
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rwagoner
or a bar, strip club, cigar store, porn shop...greeting card store (evil bday and xmas cards)...car dealership (unless the strictly sell 4 door cars or mini vans)...wow..the implications are endless ! LOL
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Judgement Day
by prophet22 inthis is the word of jehovah: alas!
for that day is a great one, so that there is no other like it.
the sound of trembling we have heard, dread, look!
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rwagoner
Hmmmmm....somebody's tin foil helmet seems to have come a little loose !
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My Amazing Morphing Kids
by rwagoner inmy kids constantly amaze me.
when other people are around they are little angels but once it is just their mom and i...look out....they release their true selves !
lol.
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rwagoner
Thanks... I love them no matter what...keep me laughing !
The black and white shot is the first picture in her portfolio...she is going to be in 2 or 3 upcoming national catalogs. my daughter the baby supermodel LOL