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  go skateboarding day: cop v.s. skaters

  by purplesofa in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh6ayvn2yw4.

  this is a video from a small town close to where i live, hot springs.

  i have been to the hotel in the background, the arlington.

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  As I said, I don't condone WHAT he did...however if you listen to the unedited version on youtube at the beginning you hear him explaining that He ordered them to stop and they took off. Anyone that has ever watched "COPS" on TV knows that LEO's get a HUGE adreneline boost if someone runs and it can make matters much worse.

  It is often caled "contempt of cop" and while it still does not justify excessive force, ignoring a lawful order from an officer does escalate that situation.

  If the skate boarders had simply ridden to city hall in protest (for skate board day) and stopped when the officer order them I would dare say the video would be much different. Running may not be physically fighting off an officer but it is in many cased considered resisting arrest.

  Will the officer be disciplined? very likely. Would the kids have been "choked" of they had simply stopped when the officers ordered them to? Not in most cities.
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  go skateboarding day: cop v.s. skaters

  by purplesofa in

  1. jw
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh6ayvn2yw4.

  this is a video from a small town close to where i live, hot springs.

  i have been to the hotel in the background, the arlington.

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  Okay....

  Time for a wildly unpopular opinion. I work in Law Enforcement...I am not a LEO but have spent 26 years working in public safety.

  I don't have any personal beef against skate boarders and I agree that kids need an outlet..a chance to be kids. I am also NOT supporting brutality in any form.

  Okay..disclaimers done - people keep posting comment like...its just a city ordinance...it was skateboard day....kids need to be kids....

  We have a city ordinance preventing jack hammering after 10 pm.....shooting varmit animals within city limits....AND against skate boarding.

  Would you like us to just give your neighbor who runs power tools all night or the guy who has a gopher problem and shoots his .22 rifle in the front yard while your kids are outside playing just a nice warning since it is just a city ordinance after all ?

  We have a skate board ordinance because skate boarders...just trying to have fun...caused tens of 1000's of dollars in damage to sidewalks, steps, curbs, planters and other infrastructure at taxpayers expense. There were also injuries to pedestrians that needed to stop. SOOOO..we built a skatepark...with their input and suggestions,,,,,and they still insist on skating downtown and violating the city ordinance.

  Should they be picked up and fined if they break the law ? Yes. Is there a reasonable way to do it ? Sure. Some local communities have a forfiture policy. If you violate the skate board ordinance you lose your gear...that can get pretty expensive.

  If their city has no skate park...lobby the city council and work within the system to get one...and then USE IT.

  **Doning my Flame Resistant Suit **
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  Packing ?

  by rwagoner in

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  just curious if any other xjw's carry concealed weapons on a regular basis ?

  because of my work (job that pays the bills) and my business (will pay the bills somday) i got into the habit shortly after leaving the dubs.

  now i am a solid supporter of a law abiding, qualified citizen's right to legally carry.

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  bttt
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  Gun Control Works...

  by read good books in

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  information used here was copied from an article by richard poe-"don't blame liberals for gun control.'.

  turkey established gun control in 1911.. *from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.. the sovied union established gun control in 1929.. *from 1929 to 1953 20 million political dissenters, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.. germany established gun control in 1938.. *from 1939 to 1945 13 million jews, catholics, gypsies, socialists, homosexuals, trade unionists, disabled and mentally ill .

  people, and other "mongolized peoples," unable to defend themselves were rounded up and were exterminated.

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  Gun control is a tight shot grouping on your target.

  RandyW - of the proudly a member of the legally armed, concealed weapon permit holders class.
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  What is the most "American"

  by stillajwexelder in

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  if somebody anywhere in the world were to ask what was very american -what would you answer?.

  apple pie.

  hamburgers.

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  Cheerleaders wrestling in apple pie !
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  Female character actresses that crack you up, impress you...

  by UnConfused in

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  kathy bates -- my goodness i wish she was my neighbor, she is awesome.

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  bonnie hunt -- (sister in jerry mcquire - in fact often plays 'the sister') .

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  Sarah Silverman

  Helen Hunt

  Jodie Foster

  Sandra Bullock
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  Packing ?

  by rwagoner in

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  just curious if any other xjw's carry concealed weapons on a regular basis ?

  because of my work (job that pays the bills) and my business (will pay the bills somday) i got into the habit shortly after leaving the dubs.

  now i am a solid supporter of a law abiding, qualified citizen's right to legally carry.

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  PO's Son,

  I agree totally on the "Good Guy ID Card" point. The process is extensive and I have no problem with that. The biggest problem is all of the people out there who ignore the laws in the first place and put others at risk. Most CCW Permit holders ard not wackos or cop wannabees. We're just responsible citizens and most of the LEO's that I know support qualified, law abiding citizens legally carrying concealed.

  We sound a lot alike but are you sure about not being protected from the Democrats ? Now I'm starting to worry. KIDDING...I'M KIDDING !!! LOL

  Randy W.
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  Packing ?

  by rwagoner in

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  just curious if any other xjw's carry concealed weapons on a regular basis ?

  because of my work (job that pays the bills) and my business (will pay the bills somday) i got into the habit shortly after leaving the dubs.

  now i am a solid supporter of a law abiding, qualified citizen's right to legally carry.

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  bttt
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  what was the strangest/worst counsel you recieved from elders ?

  by flipper in

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  having been in the organization for 30 years, after i got out i reflected on this.

  as a teenager i was told to not let my hair grow over my ears because i might stumble other young ones in the congregation.

  also, in order to carry the microphones i was told i couldn't wear white socks, had to wear black or dark blue socks.

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  When I first started gtting doubts and was researching in my Bible for answers I was told, like many others, not to read my bible because it would just confuse me. Only the org could understand the Bibles REAL meaning.

  After receiving my DA letter...they came to my house and told me that I should return to the org...NOT because I believed the teachings but because it would be so hard on my family if I left.
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  Packing ?

  by rwagoner in

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  just curious if any other xjw's carry concealed weapons on a regular basis ?

  because of my work (job that pays the bills) and my business (will pay the bills somday) i got into the habit shortly after leaving the dubs.

  now i am a solid supporter of a law abiding, qualified citizen's right to legally carry.

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  To answer eclipse and brunnhilde,

  No, I have never needed to use deadly force and I hope I am never in that position. I have unholstered my weapon a couple of times over the years when threatened. I don't think carrying a weapon should depend on your location or neighborhood. For me it is about accepting some responsibility for my safety and that of my family.

  When I am asked why I carry a weapon my answer is...because it is too heavy to carry a cop. In my semi-rural area we have 1 Police Officer for about every 4000 people. To me that means that there may not be one readily available if I ever need one in a hurry. Like most people take care of myself and my family by being prepared for natural disasters, big storms, roadside breakdowns,etc. For me, being legally armed is simply being prepared for physical threats, violent crime, etc.

  I started carrying because I worked in Law Enforcement (non-sworn/E911 Communication Officer) and regularly came into contact with unsavory people who knew where I worked. where I lived, where my wife worked, where my kids went to play. My wife is also an Officer of the Court (she is a Bail Commissioner) and carries large amounts of cash when people pay their bail in the middle of the night. I support qualified law abiding citizens carrying concealed because most of the bad guys nowdays are armed and don't even try to hide it. In my day people settled disagreements with a few insults and some pushng and shoving, now they shoot before you can even tell then how ugly there mother is.

  I don't want to create visions of old west type gunslingers here, I am not out patrolling the streets looking for bad guys, in fact because I carry I think that I am more careful NOT to put myself into situations of danger. The fact is that if we were to meet on the street you would never know that I was armed...thus the term concealed.