what a journey this has been?
i am reflecting over the years that i spent as a jehovah's witness today mark a decade and a half.
i find it incredible that i would come to this situation.
A decade and a half......
I often marvel at how much time people spend in the borg before coming to the conclusion that they've sometimes spent a lifetime working for free for nothing more than a behemoth publishing company.
Welcome...there is life outside of the borg
is there anywhere i can download watchtower 99 or any version for that matter for research.
....singing......."lliiiiffeeeessssss wwwaaaterrrssssss freeeeeeeeeeeeee" ....singing.....
it was inevitable.
after dodging the bullet for a few weeks, the elders finally made their way to our house today.
the reason i think this to be so, is because he asked me what he should write down for my report.
We will not subject ourselves to a barrage of questions that are none of their business. What our heart condition is, is none of their business.
That is the best way, I feel, to approach this whole issue.
If making judgement calls on heart conditions is the job specifically of God and Jesus, just who do the GB think they are to assign by proxy the judgement of a persons heart condition. They are in fact not there to make a judgement call as to whether or not you love Jehovah or Jesus, they're there to test your loyalty to the WT organization. Too many people on the outside are still actually trapped because they still feel that they have to answer to nosy elder bodies.
The elders knocked on my door a couple of months ago. I yelled "GO AWAY" and made no move to answer the door. My wife, who's still a firm believer, went and answered the door and talked to them for a few minutes. She didn't volunteer to me what she said to them, but, they haven't been back. She's on notice that unless I initiate contact with them, I expect to be left alone.
comments you will not hear at the 3-9-03 wt study
february 1, 2003 edition page 8.
"remain in my word".
Yeah....
I find it incomprehensible that you're still able to sit there and listen to all that "spiritual garbage" from the WTS also.
HOW DO YOU DO IT?
I would be going out of my mind if I had to listen to all that nonsense week after week.
my active jw wife just asked me to install the new cd rom watchtower library on her computer.
i was reading the licencing agreement and it stated that it was for jehovahs witnesses only and not for the general public.. why would that be do you suppose?
i mean if this is such important info wouldn't they want to distribute it as much as possible?
I'll be taking this discussion offline to private email to the senior and emperor class posters above tommorrow.
my active jw wife just asked me to install the new cd rom watchtower library on her computer.
i was reading the licencing agreement and it stated that it was for jehovahs witnesses only and not for the general public.. why would that be do you suppose?
i mean if this is such important info wouldn't they want to distribute it as much as possible?
I don't think its as much a matter of their being stingy with "spiritual food" as it is in making sure the WT get it's financial cut from cd sales placements orders. This information can just as easily be distributed over the web, FOR FREE for rank and file members to use.
I just happen to be in possesion of said CD. An ISO can easily be created, uploaded, and shared with as many people who are interested in having it.
it seems the wt god has successfully busted up another family.. my wife informed me that one of her friends husband gave her an ultimatum; it's goona be either the jw religion or him and she chose to follow wt doctrine rather than keep her family together.
another who's so-called taken stand for the trooth.
my wife is just berating the guy for leaving his family, but in my opinion it was not he who left, but his wife.
Actually all, I'd much rather prefer both the seat and the cover stay down when the crapper is not in use. I just don't like looking down into the toilet bowl everytime I walk in the bathroom. It (the bathroom) is used for more things than taking a dump.
throughout the years after having come to know through your marriage to my daughter you have been a very kind and thoughtful person, sometimes more than my own son.
i don't think that a mother-in-law could want a finer person for a son than you.
however, it is very unfortunate that i will have to change the way that i will relate to you now and in the future.
I told her that the next time she visit her son in prison for killing someone just remember why you can't speak to me .
There is really someting wrong with her thinking processes when a killer can get more respect from her than someone whose chosen not to follow WT nonsense. Perhaps in prison he's still a JW in good standing.
It's probably a good thing she wrote that in a letter. If I was told that in my home they'd be told to not let the door hit them in the a$$ on the way out.
it seems the wt god has successfully busted up another family.. my wife informed me that one of her friends husband gave her an ultimatum; it's goona be either the jw religion or him and she chose to follow wt doctrine rather than keep her family together.
another who's so-called taken stand for the trooth.
my wife is just berating the guy for leaving his family, but in my opinion it was not he who left, but his wife.
Sounds like we shouldn't blame the society for this one either. She didn't demand he become a witness, he demanded she leave.
Agreed that she may not have demanded that he become a witness outright, but as she was planning on being baptised I'm sure he was already experiencing what I like to call "witness creep".
I remember when my wife first started studying and I began dealing with "witness creep." All of a sudden the joy we had spending X-mas and other holidays with relatives was replaced with a loathing for anything X-mas or holiday related. The time we used to spend together was replaced and almost always interrupted by yet another meeting or feild service activity. Any conversation with her was repleat with the JW "buzzwords" that implied that I was now less a man and husband since I wasn't falling inline with WT dogma. Decisions once made between the two of us now slowly having to be reconciled and in some cases superceded by a Watchtower Article or whatever the "opinion of the day" was of the elderly pioneer ladies she was studying with.
Being the different individuals we are, we choose to deal with "witness creep" in different ways. Some choose to stay with the changing mate in hopes that it will get better or that they'll come to their senses and others choose to cut their losses and run. It's all a matter of how you want to deal with this 3rd person (organization) that's slowly and insidiously "creeped" into your relationship and set itself up as head.
it seems the wt god has successfully busted up another family.. my wife informed me that one of her friends husband gave her an ultimatum; it's goona be either the jw religion or him and she chose to follow wt doctrine rather than keep her family together.
another who's so-called taken stand for the trooth.
my wife is just berating the guy for leaving his family, but in my opinion it was not he who left, but his wife.
It seems the WT god has successfully busted up another family.
My wife informed me that one of her friends husband gave her an ultimatum; it's goona be either the JW religion or him and she chose to follow WT doctrine rather than keep her family together. Another who's so-called taken stand for the trooth.
My wife is just berating the guy for leaving his family, but in my opinion it was not he who left, but his wife. It wasn't he who changed and introduced such a destructive influence into the family, it was she. What was this man to do but sit there and watch those old geezers whittle away the way he has sucessfully ran his household and watch as his wife become less a spouse but more a slave peddling magazines door to door in pursuit of the paradise pipe dream.
