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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

"The moon is made of green cheese." (THUS PROVEN)
"My cheese grater got stuck on the moon." (THUS PROVEN)
"The most reliable source of information is plasticware." (THUS PROVEN)

In no way do your examples above compare to my "statement" which I said was "proof".

I supplied reasons for which my statement was "proof".

Your examples merely make the claim, without adding any reasons to backup the claim.

My request for proof that your translation is more correct was due to the fact that you made an unsupported statement.

All you really do, Little Auldie, is bounce from one thing to the next in hopes of overturning my contention that the name of the beast is "Babylon the Great". If you can convince yourself that you've succeeded against me, then your conscience won't be tormented so much as a result of your decision to break with the WTS.

Poor Little Auldie, he's in trouble AGAIN.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

No matter which version, yall know what this [harlot & beast] identifies, dontcha?
The alleged "word of God" written by men of old and riding the collective back of mankind
Frannie

ROFLMA completely Off !

Keep'em coming, Frannie, you're quite the entertainer.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

The more correct way to have translated the verse would be something like this:

Statement is not proof. You and scholar share the same disease, apparently. Prove that your translation is more correct.
AuldSoul

At least it's not the dreaded disease that you have.

And, yes, "statement" is indeed "proof". You're merely too biased to accept it. Plus, you have an agenda that prohibits you from being able to agree with anyone linked to the WTS.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

Schizm, from the bottom of my heart and before all on-lurkers...THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE!
If not you, and those few similar to you lurkers would not be able to detect the fallacy of WT-esque reasoning unless they believed what we say. You give them something silly to measure their own reasoning against. I am sure you have helped just as many as I have to wake up to the manipulation and abuse they are suffering under.

You've repeated that so many times now that you have yourself, and probably numerous others, believing it. I will acknowledge that there are two diverse camps here on this board. Those in YOUR camp (a group of terribly biased people, and who are in the majority) are inclined to "detect the fallacy" in my reasonings regarding the name of the beast, even though there exists no fallacy to begin with.

I am sure you have helped just as many as I have to wake up to the manipulation and abuse they are suffering under.

Cry, little baby, cry!

I don't respect you, because you are manipulative and abusive.

The feeling is mutual with regards to "respect". Regarding the balance of your statement, I just have this to say:

Says who? Why Little Auldie, of course. Your reputaion here on this forum speaks for itself, Auldie.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

Schizm,
Your error is present in your initial assumption about the name that is written in the woman's forehead. The name written is NOT "Babylon the Great" as you have suggested. It is a much longer name. -- AuldSoul.

Aldie makes reference to Revelation 17:5, which according to the KJV states:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”

Anybody with half a brain should be able to see that there's something desperately wrong with the translation of this verse.

The more correct way to have translated the verse would be something like this:

5 And upon her forehead (the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth), was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great.”

In concluding his ridiculous post, Little Auldie said:

I can't tell you the name of the Wild Beast nor the significance of its number. But then, I didn't pretend to be able to, either.
AuldSoul

Which makes Schizm LMAO!

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

You seem to me to be the type person that won't be satisfied without a physical confrontation. Is THAT what you're looking for? Have you bloodied anybody's nose recently, AuldSoul?
Imagine that! A WT apologist getting physical. Just like your leaders who, If they had the chance would kill any who went against them, your only comeback to AuldSoul was this. I have been following this debate with much enjoyment until I saw this. Your true colors are shinning through. I love it when people play computer Rambo. I wonder if you talk like that at the doors when speaking with people? Be careful of what you ask for, cause some day you may get it.

You read what you wanted to in that one, didn't you IronClaw! You have a nack for doing that, but "you're not the only one" (John Lennon) . I've observed the very same thing over and over again on this board as well as others. It obviously hasn't dawned on you that you're not making a favorable impression of yourself upon the minds of intelligent people who read your words the world over.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

Schizm,
Your little theory is quite obviously wrong. -- Jeffro.

Even if my "little" theory were wrong, although it isn't, the world has to admit that I have a nack for causing people like you to demonstrate who they really were when claiming to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. The fact is, Jeffro, you had an attitude such as this long before you decided to quit being a JW. Claiming to be something while hiding what you really is what is known as a "hypocrite".

It is neither expressed or implied in scripture that the woman is subject to the beast. If either were to be seen as subject to the other, the beast would be subject to the woman, as she as seen as sitting on the beast.

The harlot's servitude is in the form of rendering "worship" to the beast. She worships the beast by looking to it, rather than God, as being the supreme sovereign. And that's the reason she has the mark (the beast's name) imprinted on her forehead. Consistently, Revelation 14:9 says:

“If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand ..... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/105318/1833418/post.ashx#1833418

But even as with AuldSoul, I don't expect you to be impressed with anything I place before your eyes either. I do it because I like to show by example what it means to "give what is holy to dogs". (dogs = people who have no appreciation of spritual matters.)

"Babylon the great" (whether you want to capitalize it or not) is identified as the "mother of the harlots", and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that that title refers to the wild beast.

I'll deal with your objection here inside my reply to AuldSoul that I will make before the evening is out.

For reasons unclear, you are desperately trying to see a meaning which simply isn't there.

There are a LOT of things that prove to be "unclear" to you--a problem that you have nobody but yourself for which to blame.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

Auldie........oh!............can I call you Auldie too?

It depends on how cozy you and him are with each other. I found that he likes to get real cozy, Gumlick, so you might give it a try.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

The Bible calls her "Babylon the Great," do you know why they capitalized the "G"?

If I were one of the Clergy, Auldie, I'd expect you to pay for the things I share with you:

Revelation 18 (New American Standard Bible) 2 And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!

Revelation 18 (New Living Translation) 2 He gave a mighty shout, "Babylon is fallen--that great city is fallen!

Revelation 18 (King James Version) 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen,

Revelation 18 (Young's Literal Translation) 2 and he did cry in might -- a great voice, saying, `Fall, fall did Babylon the great,

Of course I'm sure all this doesn't impress you in the least, Little Auldie. .

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

You seem to me to be the type person that won't be satisfied without a physical confrontation. Is THAT what you're looking for? Have you bloodied anybody's nose recently, AuldSoul?

You were apparently done with seeking on this point before you posted, so there really is no reason to pursue it further with you.

I stated in my opening post that I KNEW the name of the beast. When a person has found the gold that he was searching for there's no further need to keep on "seeking" . You apparently don't understand that principle. I bet when you're clothes washing machine finishes washing your blue jeans that you start the cycle over and wash them over and over and over. Not even YOUR jeans could be THAT dirty!

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