Posts by Schizm

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no longer disfellowshipped for having a blood transfusion

by still wondering in

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can anyone help me in finding any statements made by the wtbs in any of their publications to confirm this change or even just the original news release which i understand was on their official website but i now can't find any reference to it.. is this a case of having one policy for public consumption to improve their public image but the another policy for internal consumption to give the impression that things hav'nt changed?.

it appears that the majority of jw do not know of the change in policy.

Schizm

Schizm: Let's face it, the Watchtower has got some housecleaning to do in the doctrinal department.

I believe this is the very first time you have written a sentence with which I agree completely, without any reservations.

That's because of your extremely thick skull!

Unfortunately, it is housecleaning that they will never do. Consider this: If the organization is waiting on Jehovah to correct their understanding and Jehovah isn't talking to them or using them, will their understanding ever change?

I believe you're absolutely wrong, and the passing of time will prove me right.

Here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the WTS will refine its thinking on these issues:

And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed. -- Daniel 11:35

Now go ahead and tell me how much you disagree with my impression of what that scripture means.

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no longer disfellowshipped for having a blood transfusion

by still wondering in

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can anyone help me in finding any statements made by the wtbs in any of their publications to confirm this change or even just the original news release which i understand was on their official website but i now can't find any reference to it.. is this a case of having one policy for public consumption to improve their public image but the another policy for internal consumption to give the impression that things hav'nt changed?.

it appears that the majority of jw do not know of the change in policy.

Schizm

"... the individual is no longer viewed as one of Jehovah's Witnesses because he no longer accepts and follows a core tenet of the faith."

So says the official statement above, issued by the Watchtower's "Public Affairs Office" six years ago. Although the "core tenet" referred to was in regards to the Blood doctrine, it stands to reason that if any person no longer accepts the 1914 doctrine (also a "core tenet") that they likewise would no longer be viewed as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. What an interesting development this is! Particularly since both doctrines are scripturally false. So how about that, I've in effect been given the boot! Looks like it, doesn't it. Actually, since decades have passed without me attending any meetings at all, I don't know why anyone would think of me as still being a JW anyway, which is okay for THAT reason, although I've never renounced being one. However, to be indirectly told that I'm no longer part of the pack because I quit accepting all that is taught--when I know for a fact that I have a superior understanding--now that's more than a bit absurd! Let's face it, the Watchtower has got some housecleaning to do in the doctrinal department. -- Schizm .

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Cano Is The Tip Of the Iceberg

by metatron in

is the watchtower organization filled with child molesters?

maybe not - but the cano incident should make us think about an allied problem,.

namely, general corruption and rot.. many years ago, it was not unknown to find strange photos and other materials in a bethel brother's room, after he died unexpectedly.. that doesn't prove that there is a massive problem with child molestation.

Schizm

f**k em grow old and die all you die hard dubs.I am a dissident activist to keep people from joining recruitment interdiction. -- DannyHaszard.

They will, and so will YOU. Then what? Do you think the angels will carry you to "heaven"?

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

Still whimpering I see, AuldSoul. I'll bet you're wife gets a belly full of you quite regularly. Whimper, whimper, whimper! Seems all you ever do is whimper.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

Schizm

Sadly, regarding the "name" of the wild beast, this is what the WTS has on its official website:

FEW Bible topics have evoked as much interest and concern as the prophecy about the mysterious mark, or name, of "the wild beast"—the number 666. -- http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2004/4/1/article_01.htm

I wonder when the WTS will finally realize that the name of the wild beast is NOT the same as its number (666)? It's name is that which the harlot has written on her forehead, which is Babylon the Great. The reason why the harlot has the beast's name written upon her forehead is because it is the beast whom she serves rather than God. Consistantly, those who serve God are said to have his name written on their foreheads.

The hits on this thread now amount to 6,703 times, so the WTS did get it right regarding the interest this topic evokes.

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Cano Is The Tip Of the Iceberg

by metatron in

is the watchtower organization filled with child molesters?

maybe not - but the cano incident should make us think about an allied problem,.

namely, general corruption and rot.. many years ago, it was not unknown to find strange photos and other materials in a bethel brother's room, after he died unexpectedly.. that doesn't prove that there is a massive problem with child molestation.

Schizm

I anti-watchtower picketed the most busy intersection in Bangor Maine for months back in 2001 before 9-11 the motorist and passerbys cheered me they hate JW's and for good reason. -- DannyHaszard.

Yes, the world is fond of its own (so says the scripture).

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Cano Is The Tip Of the Iceberg

by metatron in

is the watchtower organization filled with child molesters?

maybe not - but the cano incident should make us think about an allied problem,.

namely, general corruption and rot.. many years ago, it was not unknown to find strange photos and other materials in a bethel brother's room, after he died unexpectedly.. that doesn't prove that there is a massive problem with child molestation.

Schizm

But just because a priest (or a number of them) violates his oath-----even if he lives in the rectory, it doesn't mean the whole religion is rotten. -- Minimus.

And the same can be said for the WTS: "Just because an elder (or a number of them) commits some gross sin-----even if he lives at Bethel, it doesn't mean the whole JW religion is rotten."

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Does the Rainbow Covenant Disprove the Flood?

by Severus in

the story goes that god provided the rainbow as a symbol of his promise to never again destroy the world by flood.. noah and his family saw the rainbow after they left the ark.

after the waters had receeded.

after it had stopped raining for months.... yet a rainbow is simply sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets.

Schizm

Kid-A,

You picked an appropriate screen name for yourself. Your post is exactly what one would expect from a "kid" who is still wet behind the ears and who has nothing more to do other than to post smart ass remarks. My suggestion is that you make an effort to grow up a bit, and try posting something that has substance in place of being so childish.

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Does the Rainbow Covenant Disprove the Flood?

by Severus in

the story goes that god provided the rainbow as a symbol of his promise to never again destroy the world by flood.. noah and his family saw the rainbow after they left the ark.

after the waters had receeded.

after it had stopped raining for months.... yet a rainbow is simply sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets.

Schizm

If your opinions fly in the face of scientific fact....

Exactly how do you figure that my opinion -- regarding the method God used to form a barricade around the area that mankind occupied so as to enable the waters to rise above the highest mountain -- "flies in the face of scientific fact"? Yes, please explain what "scientific fact" it is that contradicts my proposal.

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Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 -- not on any CD Library that I possess.

by Schizm in

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truthseeker posted the following quote, here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/114458/2002789/post.ashx#2002789.

i attempted to verify the quote by referring to the society's library, which i possess.

in fact i posess the 1997, 2004, and 2005 libraries.

Schizm

Schizm Wrote
Those who pen the articles for the Society's publications are only human too.

We are assured that they are lead by the holy spirit, and as such, their interpretation cannot be wrong, and that belief in the interpretation is mandatory. -- searcher.

You are taking things to the extreme, and unjustifiably so. If their interpretation had been *inspired* then THAT is when it "cannot be wrong". Of course the writers of the Watchtower do no claim inspiration, and you know that. However, they DO seek to have God's mind on the matter ( = pursuing the holy spirit). Merely seeking to have God's mind on a matter doesn't guarantee flawlessness.

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